Wednesday, December 16, 2009

Tropper scandal reaches the media

Jewish Week

An influential ultra-Orthodox rabbi who supervises conversions has stepped down abruptly from the organization he has led for about five years.

Rabbi Leib Tropper resigned this week as head of Eternal Jewish Family, the Monsey-based conversion group he founded. In an official EJF press release issued late Monday, two days after Rabbi Tropper's resignation took effect, the rabbi cited a desire to pursue "a variety of other interests.[...]


  1. They offer nothing new in this emerging story. Everything they state can be gleaned from blogs etc. It was predictable that neiuf would be his downfall. Midah kneged midah

  2. Recipients and PublicityDecember 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM

    "kolpogimbo said...They offer nothing new in this emerging story. Everything they state can be gleaned from blogs etc."

    RaP: You miss the point. It's the fact that they have now latched on to this horrid story means that the story has now risen above the mere blogosphere as it now enters the mainstream Jewish left-wing print and "legitimate" journalism media.

    The NY Jewish Week is read by the movers and shakers in the ultra-Modern Orthodox world and by many influential liberal Jews. It is a paper sponsored by the secular UJA and it's the armchair reading of the types of people who have no interest in blogs and hardly bother what's on them.

    This paper is dangerous to the frum world because it takes special delight un dwelling on the failings of Orthodox and Charedi rabbis in particular. They almost never dwell on the failings of Reform and Conservative clergy and there are plenty of scandals there all the time.

    They are the ones who brought down R Boruch Lanner and inflicted great harm on the OU and its NCSY kiruv branch, so by them now focusing on the Tropper scandal a new and dangerous phase is started, it will harm GENUINE KIRUV and the needs of TRUE GEIRIM and it remains to be seen how they will run with this story in the weeks and months to come.

    Once they are featuring this story of Tropper's downfall, the larger papers like the New York Times and others like it will inevitably follow suit. Once that crowd picks up and runs with the story it will become like going from just a hand-grenade explosion on blogs, to a dynamite explosion on Jewish media to a nuclear explosion as the story goes global and viral as blogs feed off the so-called mainstream media and the main media gets more people focused on it and thus a massive Chillul Hashem befarhesya is created that Tropper will have to give an accounting for at some point.

    "It was predictable that neiuf would be his downfall. Midah kneged midah"

    RaP: While "Midah kneged midah" is right, it was never possible to know exactly where the already over-burdened rickety Tropper floundering ship would be punctured and finally sent on its way to the depths of oblivion, or of notoriety, simply because there eas so much happening on Tropper's "ship of fools" at any given moment, from confrontations with other notable rabbis; accusations of major financial wrong-doing; rejection of normative Judaism in favor of a proselytization agenda by EJF that sounded more like a Christian evangelical scheme than anything that was ever taught in any yeshiva; controversial and inciting statements meant to antagonize and humiliate opponents; ongoing and unremitting wars against enemies such as Chabad, Aish HaTorah and Modern Orthodoxy; forging of documents being fraud; lies and cheating of all sorts to gain the upper hand being total amoral; manipultaion of senior rabbis and their views being misrepresented; harsh treatment of genuine converts; spousal abuse; running a personality cult with blind disciples with dangerous consequences; slandering respectable people of all sorts to achieve personal power and control and causing them pain and suffering in their lives; conniving to ruin careers of others and threatening to do so and more...all of which could have been THE moral turpitude that brought down the shameless Tropper, but in the end it was something more primal, his raw lusts and passions that remained entirely untamed as he went about outwardly spouting his religious "holier than thou" creed and blinding many with his ability to utter talmudic insights and say just the right rabbinic thing to impress and cover up for his more nefarious inward lecherous desires and filthy deeds.

    A sad and sorry, albeit torrid, tale.

  3. why are you so obssesed with this Tropper story? for a blog calling itself daas torah it is realy not becoming,cut it out already.
    would not be surprised if there is some similar dirt hiding behind your closet,something is rotten in denmark.

  4. Recipients and PublicityDecember 17, 2009 at 7:29 AM

    The mushroom cloud of Chillul Hashem unleashed by the Tropper scandal spreads:

    *The Jewish Press: Tropper Resigns As EJF Head

    *Emes Ve-Emunah (Haemtza): Another One Bites the Dust

    *Failed Messiah (updated): Exclusive: The Story Behind The Tropper Scandal

    *Wikipedia (controversies): Leib Tropper: Controversies

    *JRants (mirror site, features DT article):Tropper scandal reaches the media

    *Jewish Press International (mirror site): Rabbi Leib Tropper Resigns

    *Luke Ford: Voice On Tape Clearly R. Leib Tropper; He Needed Rape, She Needed Conversion.

    *Modern Orthoprax & Heterodox: Audio Transcript: Part 1; Best Comment on the Tropper Scandal

    *Tweetmeme (mirror site): Tropper scandal reaches the media | JewPI

    *JBlog Central (Israelforum, mirror site): Exclusive: The Story Behind The Tropper Scandal

    *Onionsoupmix: The Spinka mess looks really good just about now...

    and so the radioactive cloud of Tropper's terrible tuma's spreads as the blogs feed off posts and news reports and then pass it on to each other so that the whole world becomes aware of Tropper's King Kong-size Chillul Hashem!

  5. You write:

    it will harm GENUINE KIRUV and the needs of TRUE GEIRIM

    Actually, Leib Tropper has been hurting more Geirim than he has been helping. His Kanois on the subject is overboard. His type is destroying Yiddishkeit for all those that don't subscribe to his limited view of Avodas Hashem.

    I'm glad to see him go, I'm sorry it is such a big Chillul Hashem that brought him down.

    I'd also like to point out that two of the three "Gedolim" that lead the charge to bring down Slifkin are now disgraced. This trash and Leib Pinter, the "Kodosh Yosheiv".

  6. Recipients and PublicityDecember 17, 2009 at 8:51 AM

    And so it spreads:

    *Frum Follies (Yerachmiel Lopin): Newest Report on Leib Tropper, Sex Abuser

    *Honestly Frum: Mi LaHashem Elai

    *HaMekubal (mekubal): How could this happen?

    *OrthoWatch: Conversions

  7. Recipients and PublicityDecember 17, 2009 at 9:21 AM

    "Gave A Get said...You write:

    it will harm GENUINE KIRUV and the needs of TRUE GEIRIM

    Actually, Leib Tropper has been hurting more Geirim than he has been helping."

    Um, you seem to be having a problem with comprehension, I am agreeing with you that Tropper has now caused real harm to the (Halachically accepted conversion) needs of (those seeking to become) TRUE GEIRIM.

    People will become cynical and disillussioned with other decent and innocent faithful rabbis, and the process, who could help those who wish to convert in the spirit of kedusha/holiness and tznius/modesty as required by the Torah and Halacha and NOT as distorted and corrupted and besmirched by Tropper (with his yet-to-be unmasked ilk) and his vile deeds.

    At no time have I ever advocated stopping geirei emes (true/genuine geirim) from joining Klal Yisrael and thereby coming under the Wings of the Shechina.

    The Torah has special mitzvot commanding ALL Jews to love the convert, and there is nothing in present-day Halacha to stop any gentile from APPLYING to become a ger tzedek as part of a continuous historical process of gathering up geirim that's compared by the Jewish sages to the gathering up of scattered sparks of the Divine Light of Hashem and joining it with the main body of the Jewish people who are the vessels for Hashem's Light in this world and for spreading it throughout the world by means of their exemplary behavior as an Am HaTorah (Torah Nation) the Am Hashem (Nation of Hashem) and the Ohr laGoyim (Light unto the nations) as befits the themes of Chanuka where a small amount of holy oil preserved in an unbroken flask was found, then placed in the menorah to produce pure light symbolic of the light of the Torah, and of Hashem, that shines upon the world like the sun shining, enlivening, invogorating, vivifying, and illuminating everything with it's immense flow of an outpouring of indescribably powerful vital spiritual energy.

    Unfortunately, it is now revealed that Tropper was working and using the kochos hatuma (the impure forces) to further himself and his goals and those of EJF while he faked being a "savior" and "defender" of the Jews.


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