Sunday, August 8, 2021

Sheitel must make woman unattractive?

 There is another campaign against Sheitel apparently by a group of Breslov Baalei tshuva. This full page add appeared in the latest Bina Magazine. It claims a sheitel must lessen attraction. I have not seen such a claim before it certainly is not in Rav Moshe's discussion of sheitel.



15 comments :

  1. It's probably dealing with the new trend of lace sheitels that are virtually impossible to differentiate from an uncovered head.

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  2. Kalonymus HaQatanJuly 6, 2021 at 3:16 PM

    If the sheitel is more attractive than natural hair, is it a halachic problem? The old retort against sheitel fashion is that it defeats the object of covering hair.
    The technical answer I've heard is that a wig is not her own hair, no ervah. Just like a CD or record of a woman singing, is not her voice.

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  3. The whole thing has an air of mystery to it. The woman walks down the aisle at the wedding and her hair is not ervah. She emerged from the yichud room and suddenly it is. So it clearly must be a spiritual distinction. This would imply that a wig that makes her look even better would not be an issue because that spiritual badness attached to her real hair is not visible. It's not looking at great hair that's the problem but married hair.

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  4. On what basis is this attributed to "Breslov Baalei tshuva"?

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  5. Is there any prohibition to wear a shirt that realistically pictures ones breasts, making it appear that the person is walking around topless?

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  6. Are single women permitted to walk around the way you describe (ie topless)? Since they are allowed to show their hair, then obviously your interpretation is a perversion.

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  7. I was seeking input from Orthodox Jews. Your Reform view is noted. But my question has nothing to do with whether the woman is single or married.

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  8. Nope, you seek input from orthodoxy precisely for the reason that you are reform. Or worse.
    Your moshul is based on your experience in topless bars. Your nimshal is women wearing realistic wigs. It's not equivalent to a woman walking around semi naked.

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  9. Regarding how orthodoxy is defined - the benchmark is generally the 13 principles by maimonides. Since you follow satmar, who hold there are 2 reshuiot , one being the G-d of Israel, and the other, Chas v shalom a nonsense demon named sam@e-l , then you are from the dualist school of fools. Since, I assume, you also believe that the G-d of Israel has 2 parts - kdisha Baruch hu and the shechina , who are currently divorced, then you have serious problems in your next world, to say the least.

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  10. What is a topless bar? Is that something you have in your Reform temple?

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  11. "Moe Ginsburg
    15 hours ago
    Is there any prohibition to wear a shirt that realistically pictures ones breasts, making it appear that the person is walking around topless?"


    First you use such a graphic depiction, and awareness of the term "topless" , then you pretend you don't know what it means , feigning piety and innocence.

    As Yannai taught his sister, do not fear perushim, but fear the perushim who behave like zimri and want the reward of Pinchas.

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  12. Topless is a known phenomina. It wasn't that long ago that the crazy liberal courts decreed that it is legal for women to go topless in public in the NYC subway.

    But a "topless bar"?! I never heard of such a concept until you introduced it into the conversation.

    Where do you know of such things??

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  13. topless in public in the NYC subway.? Crazy, seems they wanted equality with men - construction workers who take their t shirts off in the summer.

    They talk about such things in movies on the TV. It's a fact that if you live in a society you learn all about it. I know about churches, mass, etc. That doesn't mean I visit either the church or the bars.

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  14. BTW - znus is also a known phenomenon , it is mentioned in the Torah. The tanakh have several stories of acts of znus - so we are collectively aware of all sides of human behaviour.

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