Wednesday, January 27, 2016

R Shlomo Rechnitz speaking out about children rejected by Lakewood schools


  1. Is he reading from a teleprompter?

  2. Beautiful speech. Perhaps the phrase that he was missing was 'MISKABEID BIKLOIN CHAVEIRO'.

  3. Amazing speech. Kol hakavod.

  4. Politically IncorrectJanuary 27, 2016 at 10:29 PM

    Wow. .never saw before a comment as long as Jerry's. I saw a little bit only, so I can not respond to it.

    I have 2 points of his speech:
    #1, I believe that this speech is a masterpiece of an illustration of how money gives one tremendous power enabling one to say what he wants and how he wants to say it. (And while I am at it, I might also add: when and where he wants and to whom he want... .)

    #2, the fact that not always does anybody get into any yeshiva or school, a major component of his speech: do I have a ta'anah that I will not be accepted in Satmar? No, I don't belong there....unless I am willing to follow their rules, in the building and out. This year's Shabbos Shuva droshoh from a rov in Lakewood whom I well respect, espoused on the contrary, that the community is too tolerant of people who complain that they are too closed or "snobby" by people who have standards less than desired by them...that they should be perhaps 'even less hospitable'......

  5. Lakewood Yeshiva GuyJanuary 27, 2016 at 11:00 PM

  6. It was not Jerry's speech. It was written by R' Moshe D. Perlstein of Lakewood, and con be found on the website

  7. I have to jump in here.

    I generally do not like rich people. Even those who donate large sums of money. I usually despise them. Definitely don't respect them.

    SYR is different. Forget about what he said. It's hard to have everything you say come out perfect. Here is what I like about him.

    1. He cares. It is clear from his speech that he cares about people. He says (I paraphrase) he will take every single call, every kid is important and he won't stop helping.

    2. He is not scared to say it in front of the RY of Lakewood. It takes a considerable chutzpah to bash Lakewood in front of the RY's of Lakewood. Right, wrong, other, he has the guts to do it.

    3. Leadership. He feels responsible for people. He doesn't say Shalom alay nafshi, like almost everyone else. He doesn't say, the problem is so big nebach, he stands up, deals with it, has guts, says it berabim befnei am vaedeh. This my friends is a leader. I wish a RY would have made this speech not SYR, but this man is a leader, and those who haven't made this speech, either don't believe it is a problem, or don't have the leadership qualities he does.

    4. He did it in a bakovodik way. He spoke politely. He spoke well. He didn't scream at anyone. He made his point sprinkled with maamarei chazal. He did it with tact. He prepared well for the speech, and he also spoke well.

    5. He cares for the poor/neglected. Unlike others, he shows interest in helping the weakest in our community. Not the Ausbands, not the shustals, not the kotlers, not the name brands, the no frills.
    This is obviously a man with good intentions. It's real easy to stick up for the rich and powerful, and dance with the happy people at weddings. How about the poor, the hurting, the ones who are crying on their pillow ?? Who is there for them ???? Well I know who it's not !!!!!!! It's not those who never spoke up for them for fear of insulting the egos of the rich !!!!!!! Now I know SYR at least wants to be there for them.

    This post is dealing why I support SYR as a person. I will soon comment about his actual point, and DR perlsteins response

  8. As well as on
    All other websites that posted it have removed it, obviously under pressure or threat by the man himself.

  9. Reb Moshe

    Your response is exactly the problem.Always defending the status quo.Are you denying the problem or the pain of these children and parents.RSY is a hero to speak the truth and look out for people who suffer.
    As I recall he spoke about kids who can't get in to any school period.
    If you want his money than you also get his view.The Roshei Yeshiva will be happy to hear him as long as he pays.AND THATHE DOES
    This next story will show the difference between your Mashgiach and true greatness.
    The holy Amshinover Rebbe lived in Bayit V'Gan when they wanted to make a special Beis Yackov for girls from homes without T.V.'s The rebbe said fine but I'm sending my girls to the Beis Yackov with families that do have T.V.'s
    There is the difference between ahavas Yisrael and as RSY so brilliantly pointed out the holy town of Lakewood

  10. I agree.

    He seems like a very caring person who wants to help.

    A rarity!

    Of course, some of what he says is very silly and is said in a silly way, but so what?

    I don't think his speech will change anything amongst those who call the shots, nor will it change the dominant culture, but it will give chizuk to many who have been hurt and think there's no one who cares.
    (And they think that for very good reason!)

  11. The "Community" is too tolerant, what does that mean? If someone lives there he is a member of the "Community" and the "Community" has an an OBLIGATION to make sure his children are in yeshiva.

  12. Politically IncorrectJanuary 28, 2016 at 7:22 PM

    Very good, can the community ask him and/or his wife and his child to'live up to community standards in order to be allowed into their institution?

  13. Politically IncorrectJanuary 28, 2016 at 7:24 PM

    Thanks, Nat, I stand corrected.


  15. the short answer is no.

  16. A school is within its prerogative to enforce a no TV at home rule, for example.

  17. Basically reaffirming his position , making a little nice to all the softies who refused to see that by an large he is correct. grappling for excuses that there are people who care and that some places it's worse or the same, that the problem is not being totally ignored ,and how dare he , is totally beside the point. and like the K scandal it's about time people realize that if you claim to carry the flag of the Torah you must live to a higher standard and when you fail ,you fail not only with your fellow man but to the Torah and the nosein hatorah. yes the whole world is watching and they're judging.

  18. maybe, or maybe not, I did not see anywhere in Shulchan Aruch that there is an abrogation of the obligation for a community to provide Yeshivas for every child on account of a tv in the home. (this does not mean community standards can't be enforced it just somewhat limits using the Yeshiva as the "stick" to enforce those standards. Like RALS said he was in the Brisker cheder with the mechallei Shabbos)

  19. Sorry , in my humble opinion this is not what he meant . In every society there are role models which there is a societall pressure to live up to, whether it's wealth fame knowledge, and while most of us can never attain the top status in society and it's painful to have this pressure it keeps us sane it keeps us from wandering off each to our own whims . it gets unhealthy though when all the pressure is about the exterior and not true attainments, what happens is although most people have some very bright spots in their life which we all can learn from and respect if we only look at the exterior we will end up looking down and shunning very quality people . especially us religious Jews are meant to Strive for higher and more truthful goals. and when people are judged for meaningless attributes and not only judged but ostracized in a way, the trouble starts and that is what SYR is referring to. if they made a school only for geonim, actually produced such it might somewhat justified but that's not what's happening.sad.

  20. Politically IncorrectJanuary 29, 2016 at 3:57 AM

    What's your problem, if you don't accept them and their sensitivities, why should they accept you? If you don't care that you or your child flout their rules, they are pretty certain and worried that you evidently will and that either of you can set a tone of broken rules or lesser standards. ..of course. ...just like the moshol from Chazal with one person making a hole *only* in his ship cabin, thereby drowning everybody on board....

  21. Only if there are alternative schools for those with TVs, for example.

  22. No, by the lakewood leadership. They have a reputation for that. (Actually, those website managers know on their own when to take things down.)

  23. Two reasons why a man's word have an impact either the stature of the man or the veracity of his words. why then would he be pressured to retract his comments is it stature of the man and his influence or is it the inherent truth of his comments?

  24. I did not see anywhere in Shulchan Aruch that there is an abrogation of the obligation for a community to provide Yeshivas for every child on account of a tv in the home.

    Please show me anywhere in Shulchan Aruch that there is an obligation for a community to provide Yeshivos for children who thankfully have parents, on the parents terms.

  25. Seif Zayin below

    ז מוֹשִׁיבִין מְלַמְּדֵי תִּינוֹקוֹת בְּכָל עִיר וְעִיר. וְכָל עִיר שֶׁאֵין בָּהּ מְלַמֵּד תִּינוֹקוֹת, מַחֲרִימִין אַנְשֵׁי הָעִיר עַד שֶׁיּוֹשִׁיבוּ מְלַמֵּד תִּינוֹקוֹת. וְאִם לֹא הוֹשִׁיבוּ, מַחֲרִיבִין הָעִיר, שֶׁאֵין הָעוֹלָם מִתְקַיֵּם אֶלָּא בְּהֶבֶל פִּיהֶם שֶׁל תִּינוֹקוֹת שֶׁל בֵּית רַבָּן. וְעַיֵּן (ז) בְּחֹשֶׁן הַמִּשְׁפָּט סי' קס''ג סָעִיף ג'.

    באר היטב (ז) בחוה''מ. שם בסוף הסעיף וכתב הרב שכר המלמד היאך נגבה:

  26. Rav Uren Reish in response:


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