In December 1932 Einstein decided to leave Germany forever (he would never go back). It became obvious to Einstein that his life was in danger. A Nazi organization published a magazine with Einstein’s picture and the caption “Not Yet Hanged” on the cover. There was even a price on his head. So great was the threat that Einstein split with his pacifist friends and said that it was justified to defend yourself with arms against Nazi aggression. To Einstein, pacifism was not an absolute concept but one that had to be re-examined depending on the magnitude of the threat.
he left in 1933 - that was smart
ReplyDeletethe thing to do was to watch what Einstein is doing. Perhaps he saved many lives, as more Germans and other europeans may have taken his move as being the right one
https://jewishaction.com/religion/faith/life-after-the-holocaust-how-they-rebuilt/
ReplyDeleteyour point?
ReplyDeleteThis is a more positive article, about rebuilding Jewish life after the war.
ReplyDeleteIrrelevant to the discussion!
ReplyDeletenot irrelevant, - when you are nearing the end of a long and difficult discussion, you ad a bit of hope tothe picture, that is why I posted this.
ReplyDeleteBoth Einstein and Freud had big credentials whcih allowed them to get invitations from the West.
ReplyDeleteHilchot Shevitat Asor - Chapter Two
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When a person who is dangerously ill25 asks to eat on Yom Kippur, he should be fed26 because of his request until he says, "It is enough,"27 even though expert physicians say that it is unnecessary.28
When the sick person says that it is unnecessary for him to eat,29
and a physician says that it is necessary, he should be fed according
to [the physician's] instructions, provided the physician is an expert.30
When one physician says that it is necessary [for a sick person to
eat], and another physician says that it is unnecessary, the person
should be fed. If several physicians say that it is necessary [for a
sick person to eat], and other physicians say that it is unnecessary,
[the ruling] follows the majority, or those with the most expertise.31
[This applies] provided the sick person does not himself say that it is
necessary [for him to eat]. If, however, he makes such a statement, he
should be fed.
If the sick person does not say that he must [eat], the physicians
were divided on the issue, they were all experts, and an equal number
took each side, he should be fed.
"Einstein escaped the Nazis because he was so smart - more nonsense from KA"
ReplyDeleteNo, these are facts, which you cannot accept. It is cognitive dissonance , that 2 conflicting sets of information are placed in front of a person - a) a worldly and intellgient person on the frontline of a problem can decode and take evasive action to save himself, despite him being secular, and b) Being Chareidi is that we follow Gedolei Torah for all our life decisions, since they have the elevated learning and imbued with daas torah, and can decode the world, that they must separate from in order to fully understand it.
Wow more nonsense
ReplyDeleteEinstein left because he got a less ambiguous message from the Nazis - not because he was smarter or less religious
What's a "a less ambiguous message from the Nazis"?
ReplyDeleteIsn't Mein Kampf unambiguous?
Even after Kristalnacht, many still thought it was ambiguous.
Also Vrba and Wetzler escaped auschwitz to tell the Hungarian community (mixed, secular-religious) and they thought it was a joke!
As I said you are very ignorant about the Holocaust - read Mart5in Gilbert's history
ReplyDeleteSee the readers' reviews here
ReplyDeletehttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48837.The_Holocaust
It's a 953 page book detailing every massacre.
It does not presumably address the issue of Einstein or others who left in the 1930s. ?
In other words actually studying the facts bores you
ReplyDeleteWould you read 1000 page book to answer a point in discussion?
ReplyDeleteDid you read Edward shirer's book on The Rise and Fall all of the third reich?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrico_Fermi
Here is another physics genius escapes Italy in 1938 he wasn't even Jewish himself but he he had a Jewish wife and could see what was coming.
no, the facts are presented - according to the multiple reviews _ as massacres, in gory detail from beginning to end. The facts you tend to ignore are that many secularised jews especially in Germany, sensed something terrible is going to happen. They didn't know what and this was probably unimaginable. But Herzl also sensed something would happen. He succeeded in persuading many yidden, giving them the warning - his duty as a Jew _ and eventually having his vision of a Jewish State fulfilled.
ReplyDeleteI had this discussion in lunavitch many years ago.
They said herzl made a lucky guess, and gedolim were uncharacteristically unable to foresee or act. Except their own gedolim who did foresee.
More "nonsense" from DT: Because i have not read a specific historical book, I am pig ignorant.
ReplyDeleteDT claim: In December 1932 Einstein decided to leave Germany forever... not because he was smart-
The Nazis were not yet even in power - that was the following year! He was targeted because he was the most famous german Jew and perhaps German per se.
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/how-did-adolf-hitler-happen
Did the Gedolim lose the abilty to make a simple Kal v 'chomer, that if these rashaim are going after their most famous secular Jew, they will have no compunction in coming after the religious ones who dress so differently?