Important Q&A at 10:05 - 18:45 regarding sham conversions. Among the things that Rabbi Breitowitz says, is that many times these conversions are done by rabbis who are afraid of losing their jobs. He posits that gentiles who convert without any intention of keeping the Mitzvos, are not converts. [The Israeli Rabbinate is also not spared from Rabbi Breitowitz's scathing criticism].
it's a false argument, or hypocritical one. All people in these yeshivot receive salaries, and they therefore have to sing to the party line. Same with those in Kashrut industry. Last time there was a Hareidi movement for "high standard, kosher" conversions, we saw Tropper. We saw hsi barter, znus, pimping for conversions. That is the Hareidi standard.
Tropper gave $$$ millions in bribes to leading gedolim, yeshivos, including the one where R Breitowitz works. How many of these Hareidi rabbonim returned the money?
Rabbi Leib Tropper, dean of Yeshiva Kol Yaakov, called the conference "a monumental achievement by daas Torah throughout the world." He added: "We are well on the way towards adopting universal standards for conversions in intermarriage. We will be sending a strong message that when it comes to geirus in intermarriage, there is only one halochoh." https://www.chareidi.org/archives5766/VYK66aflorida.htm
First, just remember that Tropper is how this blog broke into the big time in the Jewish blogsphere. Our blogmaster's fearless and indefatigable efforts in those days before Trump Derangement Syndrome corrupted his thinking was essential to bringing EJF's corruption to light. Second, this is just a reminder of how "My way or you hate the Torah" is ruining the Jewish world. No, conversion isn't as simple as "Let's have one standard where we apply every single chumrah and make it a miserable, never-ending process". I mean, thank Heaven that the Rabbanut and this guy weren't around when Rus moved to Beis Lechem. She'd never have been accepted.
For tropper, he was hefker because the Gedolim weren't protecting him, and even before the scandal, there was opposition to the ejf. For walder who was probably worse than tropper, bnei brak were protecting him, so he did not get any criticism from certain circles.
I remember many years ago bringing an older authority in a discussion with some chassidic bochrim. They said that if you rely on that authority (could have been ramban).I wouldn't be able to eat in your house.. I'm other words a rishon from 1000 years ago is not valid because today Kashruth is more extreme. I'd rather eat with Abraham , with Moshe, with David hamelech, with yechezkel than with hareidim who oppose the state of Israel.
Important Q&A at 10:05 - 18:45 regarding sham conversions. Among the things that Rabbi Breitowitz says, is that many times these conversions are done by rabbis who are afraid of losing their jobs. He posits that gentiles who convert without any intention of keeping the Mitzvos, are not converts. [The Israeli Rabbinate is also not spared from Rabbi Breitowitz's scathing criticism].
ReplyDeleteit's a false argument, or hypocritical one. All people in these yeshivot receive salaries, and they therefore have to sing to the party line. Same with those in Kashrut industry.
DeleteLast time there was a Hareidi movement for "high standard, kosher" conversions, we saw Tropper. We saw hsi barter, znus, pimping for conversions. That is the Hareidi standard.
Tropper gave $$$ millions in bribes to leading gedolim, yeshivos, including the one where R Breitowitz works. How many of these Hareidi rabbonim returned the money?
DeleteRabbi Leib Tropper, dean of Yeshiva Kol Yaakov, called the conference "a monumental achievement by daas Torah throughout the world." He added: "We are well on the way towards adopting universal standards for conversions in intermarriage. We will be sending a strong message that when it comes to geirus in intermarriage, there is only one halochoh."
Deletehttps://www.chareidi.org/archives5766/VYK66aflorida.htm
First, just remember that Tropper is how this blog broke into the big time in the Jewish blogsphere. Our blogmaster's fearless and indefatigable efforts in those days before Trump Derangement Syndrome corrupted his thinking was essential to bringing EJF's corruption to light.
DeleteSecond, this is just a reminder of how "My way or you hate the Torah" is ruining the Jewish world. No, conversion isn't as simple as "Let's have one standard where we apply every single chumrah and make it a miserable, never-ending process". I mean, thank Heaven that the Rabbanut and this guy weren't around when Rus moved to Beis Lechem. She'd never have been accepted.
For tropper, he was hefker because the Gedolim weren't protecting him, and even before the scandal, there was opposition to the ejf.
DeleteFor walder who was probably worse than tropper, bnei brak were protecting him, so he did not get any criticism from certain circles.
I remember many years ago bringing an older authority in a discussion with some chassidic bochrim. They said that if you rely on that authority (could have been ramban).I wouldn't be able to eat in your house.. I'm other words a rishon from 1000 years ago is not valid because today Kashruth is more extreme.
DeleteI'd rather eat with Abraham , with Moshe, with David hamelech, with yechezkel than with hareidim who oppose the state of Israel.
I sometimes wonder if Moshe Rabeinu came back and looked around if he'd shake his head and say "WTH. I never meant any of this."
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