Thursday, May 12, 2022


Sefer HaIkkarim (1:20:1) A thing perceived by an unusually popular and trustworthy person or by a number of persons of superior powers of comprehension or by an unusually large number of persons, is more likely to satisfy the mind of its reality and to be firmly believed than a thing not so accredited. For this reason God desired that the Torah should be given through Moses with great publicity and in the presence of a mighty multitude of six hundred thousand people. For according to the wise men of the Cabala this number includes all physiognomies, hence the publicity could not be greater, though the number of persons had been multiplied many times.


  1. Kalonymus HaQatanMay 12, 2022 at 2:04 PM

    It didn't last long. One hiccup, and the masses turned to their golden calf.

  2. Meanwhile Nechemiah had a "What do you mean you never heard of Sukkos?" moment as well.

  3. Kalonymus HaQatanMay 12, 2022 at 2:57 PM

    he had a different arba minim moment too...

  4. Yup, which makes you really wonder about the Kuzari proof.

  5. Kalonymus HaQatanMay 12, 2022 at 4:48 PM

    Kuzari is a logical and scientific failure
    Actually, with due respect to Rabbi Halevi, who was a great poet, he was anti-philosophy. The book he wrote, was an imaginary dialogue between himself and himself, except he wrote ti about different characters.

  6. Where did this sniping co9mment come about?
    Kuzari is not mentioned!

  7. Kalonymus HaQatanMay 13, 2022 at 1:12 AM

    There is a distinction between the Sefer haKuzari, and the modern "Kuzari Arguement/proof/principle".
    Kuzari Principle is taught as an argument to convince people who are around today, that the Torah happened as it is written in the Torah (or talmud) , when it is written that it did happen.
    So when rationalists offer criticism of Kuzari Proofs, it is usually the version taught at famous BT institutions or online. Kuzari proof uses a similar argument of mass epxerience, mass witnesses and verbatim, 100% error free transmission of both Written and Oral Laws through each generation since Sinai.
    Unfortunetely, the Tenach itself attests to several discontinuities in transmission. Forgetting the Torah in the time of Hezekiah, and also Josiah; the kiruv by Ezra HaSofer and the introduction of Torah to a population in E'Y who seem to have forgotten everything, or most of it.
    As for believaability - again, to the cynic of today - a mass group of witnesses, who jettison their belief, and opt for a Golden Calf instead, as an article which is amongst them , visible, that they can touch and feel, does nto help the case whcih is made in the book quoted above, or by the kuzari and its adherents.


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