You keep missing my point: both sides abuse power. Both sides are criminals. Trump can do plenty wrong but had Hillary won, she'd have done plenty wrong too. It's just that the same media that is condemning Trump for abuse of power would have found a way to excuse Hillary's crimes.
No, it's an observation of reality. There's always going to be a lying, cheating, thieving bastard at the top because the system is set up so that only a lying, cheating, thieving bastard can make it to the top. Now, do you want a pro-Israel lying, cheating, thieving bastard in the White House or an anti-Israel one? Further, let's say that, other than his nice mansion making him a hypocrite, Bernie Sanders is a really nice guy who never cheated on his wife and conducts himself with dignity. Do you really prefer to have him in the White House despite his Jew-hatred?
again like other Trump supporters you are ignoring the reality OF TRUMPS MISDEEDS because the democrats would be worse when Trump abandons Israel like he did the Kurds will you say "but the failed Democratic candidate would have done worse"?!
Daas Torah Mod says “but Hillary didn't win and thus only Trump can abuse power saying if she had been elected she would have too is simply an absurd defense” No. Take this week’s parsha וישב. Joseph is the Viceroy and he puts his brothers in jail on false charges that they are spies. The plain reading in the Bible is that Joseph loves dearly his brothers. “They did not know that Joseph understood כי שמע יוסף, for there was an interpreter between him and them כי המליץ בינתם. He turned away from them and wept ויבך. But he came back to them and spoke to them; and he took Simeon from among them ויקח מאתם את שמעון and had him bound ויאסר אתו before their eyes לעיניהם.” (Genesis 42:23-24). Is Joseph abusing his power as Viceroy? Did the brothers abuse their power when they threw Joseph into the pit and didn’t listen to Joseph’s cries? Are the House Democrats abusing their power to vote impeachment for Trump? Did Comey, Schiff, Nadler etc abuse their powers in making false/baseless charges? Joseph made a false/baseless charge that the brothers were spies. Why? To get them to repent. Tell me, are you moved to tears hearing: “They said to one another, Alas, we are being punished on account of our brother, because we looked on at his anguish צרת נפשו, yet paid no heed as he pleaded בהתחננו with us. That is why this distress הצרה has come upon us. Then Reuben spoke up and said to them, Did I not tell you, Do no wrong אל תחטאו to the boy ?בילד But you paid no heed ולא שמעתם. Now comes the reckoning for his blood וגם דמו הנה נדרש.” (Genesis 42:21-22)? The Israelites were polarized to camps of Joseph and camps of the brothers headed by Judah. My wife comments that I’m on the side of the brothers. The evil Romans were on the side of Joseph when they ordered the executions. Today the US is polarized by Trump and anti-Semites... Yes I love Trump and Netanyahu.
No, you keep misunderstanding me. I am not ignoring the reality of Trump's deed. My position is that a Hillary administration would be just as immoral in behaviour. It doesn't matter who's in power because to be in power means being a terrible person. At this point, however, I see that Trump is being a lot more supportive of Israel than Hillary would have been. Again, he's a terrible person. So's she but if she was in power we'd have a terrible person and less support for Israel.
Why should he be a tzaddik? Were Nixon, Carter Bush, Clinton tzaddikim? They are not roshei yeshiva, they are heads of most powerful Empire. They need to be mamzerim.
As the meme on Facebook goes, the Dem's couldn't wait for the 2020 Election because the voters might get it wrong again!
ReplyDeleteyou conveniently ignore the abuse of power
ReplyDeletetrump can do no wrong
criminal behavior can only be done by A DEMOCRAT?
You keep missing my point: both sides abuse power. Both sides are criminals. Trump can do plenty wrong but had Hillary won, she'd have done plenty wrong too. It's just that the same media that is condemning Trump for abuse of power would have found a way to excuse Hillary's crimes.
ReplyDeleteBUT HILARY DIDN'T WIN AND THUS ONLY TRUMP CAN ABUSE POWER
ReplyDeleteSAYING IF SHE HAD BEEN ELECTED SHE WOULD HAVE TOO is simply an absurd defense
What if Bernie Sanders wins, Chas shalom. At least Bloomberg is moderate and Biden is pro Israel.
ReplyDeleteNo, it's an observation of reality. There's always going to be a lying, cheating, thieving bastard at the top because the system is set up so that only a lying, cheating, thieving bastard can make it to the top.
ReplyDeleteNow, do you want a pro-Israel lying, cheating, thieving bastard in the White House or an anti-Israel one?
Further, let's say that, other than his nice mansion making him a hypocrite, Bernie Sanders is a really nice guy who never cheated on his wife and conducts himself with dignity. Do you really prefer to have him in the White House despite his Jew-hatred?
again like other Trump supporters you are ignoring the reality OF TRUMPS MISDEEDS because the democrats would be worse
ReplyDeletewhen Trump abandons Israel like he did the Kurds will you say "but the failed Democratic candidate would have done worse"?!
Daas Torah Mod says “but Hillary didn't win and thus only Trump can abuse power saying if she had been elected she would have too is simply an absurd defense”
ReplyDeleteNo. Take this week’s parsha וישב. Joseph is the Viceroy and he puts his brothers in jail on false charges that they are spies. The plain reading in the Bible is that Joseph loves dearly his brothers. “They did not know that Joseph understood כי שמע יוסף, for there was an interpreter between him and them כי המליץ בינתם. He turned away from them and wept ויבך. But he came back to them and spoke to them; and he took Simeon from among them ויקח מאתם את שמעון and had him bound ויאסר אתו before their eyes לעיניהם.” (Genesis 42:23-24).
Is Joseph abusing his power as Viceroy? Did the brothers abuse their power when they threw Joseph into the pit and didn’t listen to Joseph’s cries? Are the House Democrats abusing their power to vote impeachment for Trump? Did Comey, Schiff, Nadler etc abuse their powers in making false/baseless charges? Joseph made a false/baseless charge that the brothers were spies. Why? To get them to repent. Tell me, are you moved to tears hearing:
“They said to one another, Alas, we are being punished on account of our brother, because we looked on at his anguish צרת נפשו, yet paid no heed as he pleaded בהתחננו with us. That is why this distress הצרה has come upon us. Then Reuben spoke up and said to them, Did I not tell you, Do no wrong אל תחטאו to the boy ?בילד But you paid no heed ולא שמעתם. Now comes the reckoning for his blood וגם דמו הנה נדרש.” (Genesis 42:21-22)?
The Israelites were polarized to camps of Joseph and camps of the brothers headed by Judah. My wife comments that I’m on the side of the brothers. The evil Romans were on the side of Joseph when they ordered the executions. Today the US is polarized by Trump and anti-Semites... Yes I love Trump and Netanyahu.
I see you are using Trump's alternative logic -it simply is nonsense
ReplyDeleteNo, you keep misunderstanding me.
ReplyDeleteI am not ignoring the reality of Trump's deed. My position is that a Hillary administration would be just as immoral in behaviour. It doesn't matter who's in power because to be in power means being a terrible person.
At this point, however, I see that Trump is being a lot more supportive of Israel than Hillary would have been. Again, he's a terrible person. So's she but if she was in power we'd have a terrible person and less support for Israel.
If Sanders wins, then Rav Eidensohn will be happy that a decent, albeit Jew-hating man is in the White House, I guess.
ReplyDeleteWhy should he be a tzaddik? Were Nixon, Carter Bush, Clinton tzaddikim? They are not roshei yeshiva, they are heads of most powerful Empire. They need to be mamzerim.
ReplyDeletethe issue is trump's accountability not the name of a democratic opponent
ReplyDeleteif trump is removed Pence not Sanders or Clinton etc becomes president
so therefore you support him no matter what he does wrong?
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