Friday, October 29, 2010

Rav Sternbuch: Considering others


  1. you can continue with this fraud all you like that you and R' sternbuch are big buddies. He obviously doesn't know who you really are and what you stand for. Buddies with the apikores the cholol dovid cohen, in favour of gittei me'usah, the NY get law etc.

  2. My haskomoh for Rav Sternbuch’s words is needless. I must draw attention to one of the comments he makes, as it easily misused. There was a dire need to protect Yitzchok from the influences of Yishmael. This translates into our yeshivos, where the child who could be thus deemed a “rodef’ must be sent on his/her way. As noble and lofty a value as this is, it is also dangerous (and that is putting it lightly).

    If anyone would discover a talmid in yeshiva involved in selling drugs to others or providing access to improper media, there are good reasons to consider sending him away. It is retzicha to do so without making at least some effort to get that child needed help. But the assessment of such risk to others is usually made by those least capable of doing so objectively. As an askan, I have encountered many instances of kids being thrown out for the most ridiculous reasons, with the word “rodef” used inappropriately. In none of these cases (there were many) was there a shailoh asked of a posek, despite admonitions about this from the greatest gedolim, including the Chazon Ish.

    I was privy to an incident of a young bochur who was molested in the yeshiva dorm during the day by a goy in the neighborhood. The parents were summoned and asked to take him home. Not because he would need therapy, and this might be better closer to home, but because “victims become perpetrators, and he needs to leave before he can do harm to others”. The Rosh Yeshiva was confronted and defended his actions. In my opinion, there is no justification for this ever, and I cannot fathom any mechila for this. This child was revictimized by the Rosh Yeshiva, based on a crime he did not commit. The statistics were misapplied here completely.

    We need far more care than is usually used before judging that there is an influence of a Yishmoel before throwing out. Is there anyone ready to make decisions this way?


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