Monday, November 2, 2020

Who is the boss? - a father's story

 I have a story to tell, and it’s an important one – the question once arose, “can we simply push aside the 5th commandment?” This might seem like an odd question, but the question arose during an odd experience under strange circumstances. The Rosh Yeshiva is always known as the more influential leader– even greater than the Yeshiva. With that said, my son was studying Torah at well-known Yeshiva in New York.

At this school, I was under the impression that he’d study Torah and learn how to connect with a mesora that was laid forth by his parents. However, when I learned that Rosh Yeshiva was teaching his own mesora, I found myself disheartened. As an Orthodox Jew, the power of the Rosh Yeshiva is not unknown to me. He’s a considerable influence outside of school as well. In the community, he’s a leader and a policy maker, and he’s often called to act in such capacity. But to make children rebel against their parents? That was unheard of, and it was something that I wasn’t willing to take lightly.

I began to take note of just how closed off this Yeshiva community was from others. There was absolutely no accountability, and as a result, I was treated with contempt. Not to mention, any speak of seeing a gadol together was solemnly rejected. The community believed that survival as a distinct entity necessitates more than just education. In other words, they believed in indoctrination. However, that left parents – like me – scrambling to understand just what our children were being taught and indoctrinated into.

I found myself increasingly perplexed by what was unfolding before me, but I looked to the past to gain clarity. Rabbi Salanter was concerned that without ethical behavior and spiritual warmth, study of the Talmud would become motivated by vanity, and that adherence to the laws would turn into an unfeeling, mechanical process. At that moment, I realized that the Rosh Yeshiva was precisely what Rabbi Salanter envisioned happening one day.

My son has not eaten at my home in over two years, and yet, the Rosh Yeshiva will not permit me and my son to see a mediator. Moreover, the Rosh Yeshiva will not visit a mediator with me either. As a parent, I will fight for my child. I will fight to ensure that my child doesn’t fall victim to such strict indoctrination, and I will not sit idly by while the Rosh Yeshiva calls me “bizarre,” “strange,” and, “someone with poor judgement.” Every parent has a right to inquire about the welfare of their child – even when they’re older. And every parent deserves a satisfactory answer. That’s what I’m here to do.



10 comments :

  1. Such a tragedy.
    There are lines. A school can demand that the boys wear a black hat on campus but it's when they're told they must wear the black hat at home and tell their fathers to as well that lines are crossed.

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  2. Eloquently said, it starts with something innocuous which leads to the hat that ends with the following excerpt from a letter I received from my son’s Rosh Yeshiva, “We feel it is important for him to “stand up for himself” in order to properly develop and become a productive member of כלל ישראל, and to create his own home. We feel that this need is so paramount for his proper development that it is דוחה the חיוב of כיבוד אב.”

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  3. Really? Some idiot actually put that on paper? https://media3.giphy.com/media/l2SpOJK6M1AOCtcl2/giphy.gif

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  4. He continues and writes, “Despite our encouragement that he resist many of your demands and “stand up for himself”, we also encourage him (and he B”H follows this very carefully) to be very respectful to you and treat you with the dignity that you deserve as his parent.”

    He's trying to feign his real intentions by appearing to be sincere. Would you be so kind as to give an analysis of this before I share my thoughts?

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  5. Can you please tell me the connection?

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  6. “Who is the boss?”
    Torah thought on לך לך and וירא
    “The angel of the Lord said to her further, Behold, you are with child And shall bear a son; You shall call him Ishmael, For the Lord has paid heed to your suffering אל עניך. He shall be a wild ass of a man; His hand against everyone, And everyone’s hand against him; He shall dwell alongside of all his kinsmen וְעַל פְּנֵי כָל אֶחָיו יִשְׁכֹּן.” (Genesis 16:11-12).
    בראשית פרשת לך לך פרק טז פסוק יב
    וְהוּא יִהְיֶה פֶּרֶא אָדָם יָדוֹ בַכֹּל וְיַד כֹּל בּוֹ וְעַל פְּנֵי כָל אֶחָיו יִשְׁכֹּן:
    מלבי"ם בראשית פרשת לך לך פרק טז פסוק יב
    והוא, אולם בעבור שלא שמעה לקול המלאך לשוב בעבור הצלחת הנפש ולא בעבור הצדק ואף לא בעבור המועיל, ע"כ גם זרעה לא יצלח להיות אדם מאושר רוצה בטוב או במועיל ככל תורת האדם, רק יהיה פרא אדם, ר"ל אדם פראי, בצד א' יהיה פרא למוד מדבר, ובצד א' יהיה אדם מדיני, ויפרש שיהיה פרא כי ידו בכל ויד כל בו, כאיש פראי עושה מריבה עם הכל, ובצד א' יהיה אדם, כי על פני כל אחיו ישכון, ועי"כ יהיה ג"כ אדם מדיני עם אחיו ושכניו:

    “God heard the voice קול of the lad הנער, and an angel of God called to Hagar from heaven and said to her, What troubles you מה לך, Hagar? Fear not, for God has heard the cry of the boy where he is. Arise קומי, lift up the lad and hold him fast והחזיקי by your hand את ידך בו , for I will make him a great nation כי לגוי גדול אשימנו.” (Genesis 21:17-18).
    My theory. Strange God to tell Hagar, pregnant, that she will bear a male child who will grow to be a wild ass of a man his hand against everyone and every one will be against him. God was being helpful to Hagar. Hagar wanted to be queen and not Sarah. God wanted Hagar to know Sarah is queen that potentialities of Isaac will exceed Ishmael.
    Hertz Chumash page 72: “in Isaac shall seed be called to thee. Isaac was to be the Patriarch’s heir; and consequently Abraham might act upn Sarah’s wish, and send Ishmael away, this avoiding any dispute later on concerning the inheritance.”
    My theory. Hagar, was a good woman. Hagar took God’s words the right way. Hagar loved Abraham. In the midrash Hagar went back to Abraham after Sarah died and had more children. In the midrash Ishmael later in life repented. My theory. Ishmael had a good mother and good upbringing. God was helping her. Hagar knew she had work to do when God told her that Ishmael will be a wild ass of a man. Hagar said thank you God for telling me this. Follow, MeandNachumTzvi?

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  7. רמב"ן בראשית פרשת לך לך פרק טז פסוק יב
    פרא אדם - לשון רש"י, אוהב מדברות לצוד חיות, כמו שכתוב (להלן כא כ) וישב במדבר ויהי רובה קשת. ידו בכל - ליסטים. ויד כל בו - הכל שונאין אותו ומתגרין בו:
    והנכון כי פרא אדם סמוך, שיהיה איש פרא למוד מדבר, יצא בפעלו משחר לטרף, ויטרוף הכל, והכל יטרפוהו. והענין על זרעו שיגדל ויהיו להם מלחמות עם כל העמים. ורבי אברהם אמר ידו בכל, שינצח מתחלה כל הגוים, ואחר כן יד כל בו, שינוצח בסוף. ועל פני כל אחיו, שהם בני קטורה, ישכון, שיגדל זרעו מהם:
    “Then God opened her eyes and she saw a well of water. She went and filled the skin with water, and let the boy drink. God was with the boy and he grew up; he dwelt in the wilderness and became a bowman. He lived in the wilderness of Paran במדבר פארן; and his mother got a wife for him from the land of Egypt.” (Genesis 21:19-21).
    “Twelve years they served Chedorlaomer, and in the thirteenth year they rebelled. In the fourteenth year Chedorlaomer and the kings who were with him came and defeated the Rephaim at Ashterothkarnaim, the Zuzim at Ham, the Emim at Shaveh-kiriathaim, and the Horites in their hill country of Seir as far as El-paran איל פראן, which is by the wilderness. On their way back they came to En-mishpat, which is Kadesh, and subdued all the territory of the Amalekites, and also the Amorites who dwelt in Hazazon-tamar.” (Genesis 14:4-7).

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  8. “Who is the boss?”
    Shabbath 85a
    “For R. Hiyya b. Abba said in R. Johanan's name: What is meant by “You shall not remove תסיג your countryman’s landmarks, set up by previous generations, in the property that will be allotted to you in the land that the Lord your God is giving you to possess.” (Deuteronomy 19:14), The landmark which they of old have set thou shalt not encroach upon [by planting so near to your neighbor's border that the roots must draw sustenance from his land, thus impoverishing it]. What landmarks did they of old set? R. Samuel b. Nahmani said in R. Johanan's name, [Even] as it is written “These were the sons of Seir the Horite, who were settled in the land ישבי הארץ: Lotan, Shobal, Zibeon, Anah,” (Genesis 36:20), These are the sons of Seir the Horite, the inhabitants of the earth: are then the whole world inhabitants of heaven? But it means that they were thoroughly versed in the cultivation of the earth. For they used to say, This complete [measuring] rod [of land is fit] for olives, this complete [measuring] rod [is fit] for vines, this complete [measuring] rod for figs. And Horite [hori] implies that they smelled [merikin] the earth. And Hivite [hiwi]? Said R. Papa: [It teaches] that they tasted the earth like a serpent [hiwya]. R. Aha b. Jacob said: Horite [hori] implies that they become free [horin] from [the cares of] their property [Being dispossessed thereof, v. Deut. II, 12. “And the Lord said to me: Do not harass the Moabites or provoke them to war. For I will not give you any of their land as a possession; I have assigned Ar as a possession to the descendants of Lot.—It was formerly inhabited by the Emim, a people great and numerous, and as tall as the Anakites. Like the Anakites, they are counted as Rephaim; but the Moabites call them Emim. Similarly, Seir was formerly inhabited by the Horites; but the descendants of Esau dispossessed them, wiping them out and settling in their place, just as Israel did in the land they were to possess, which the Lord had given to them.—” (Deuteronomy 2:9-12).]
    Hertz Chumash p.133: “20.the inhabitants of the land. The original settlers before the arrival of Esau’s clans. The Horites seem to have been cave-dwellers.”
    This supports the midrash: vast numbers of ancient peoples with their wars in Abraham’s times. Today we have the Hammurabi writings in museums in London and Paris, carved in ancient stones. My theory. Hagar wanted very much to be queen. Hagar was a good woman. Hagar tried to bring up Ishmael properly so Abraham would love Ishmael.
    Hertz Chumash page 50: “1.Amraphel. Usually identified with Hammurabi, a great and enlightened king of Babylon. He finally united all the city-states of North and South Babylonia into one strong centralized empire, defeated the Elamites, and extended his rule to the shores of the Mediterranean. He undertook the codification of babylonia law, and his Code was rediscovered at the beginning of this century.”
    My theory. Hagar knew that Ishmael had a big job ahead of him: to evict the primitive cave dwellers Horites to maintain his inheritance.

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  9. Proud Conservative MomNovember 11, 2020 at 9:13 PM

    That is truly magnificent!!
    May Hashem bless you, with many happy and healthy years to continue to do so.

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