Tuesday, July 7, 2020

66% of coronavirus patients infected at home, just 2% at synagogue

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/283125

 
Most coronavirus patients in Israel were infected at home, according to a report by Israel Hayom Tuesday morning.
According to the report, research conducted by the Knesset Research and Information Center, nearly two-thirds (65.8%) of people infected with the coronavirus were infected at home, while just 2.2% were infected at synagogues.
The government rejected calls by the Health Ministry and National Security Council to close all synagogues in the country, but did impose new restrictions, limiting the number of worshippers to 19 at a time.

11 comments :

  1. Do you remember a few years ago there was a spike in the number of milah-related herpes infections and it then came out that parents were being told to deny it had anything to do with the milah, or else?
    I would like to know how this survey was done. Is it honest or are people being told "Don't you dare say you got it at yeshiva! Say you got it at home!"?

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  2. The suggestion that Metzitzah B'peh is involved in the transmission of the herpes simplex virus has never been conclusively proven. In fact, the link is not as "scientifically" obvious as one may think. The vast majority of neonatal herpes cases in NY City are males who did NOT have MBP and FEMALES.

    The only conclusive way of identifying the source of a herpes infection is DNA tests. We would need to test the DNA of the practitioner, and compare it with the DNA of the virus in the baby. Otherwise, the baby could have gotten it from someone else.

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  3. Kalonymus HaQatanJuly 8, 2020 at 5:34 PM

    Yeah, and smoking isn't proven to cause lung cancer, just like the famous Posek said.

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  4. The Rockland County Health Department, with the close cooperation of the local Orthodox community, did a two year study, which was reported in 2015.

    Over the two-year period that the protocol was in effect, eight cases were presented to the Rockland County Health Department. Five were conclusively determined NOT to be HSV-1. Of the remaining three, the mohalim were tested under the terms of protocol. One led to an inconclusive result, as not enough virus was detected in the mohel to warrant DNA testing. In the other two cases it was conclusively determined that the mohalim were NOT a DNA match to the respective infants.

    The Rockland County Department of Health had 100 PERCENT cooperation of all mohalim in the three confirmed cases to be tested under the protocol. In one case, the mohel had to travel numerous times — at his own expense, he wouldn’t take money for the mitzvah — from Montreal to Monsey for his testing.

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  5. Surveys are not scientific data.

    Bias makes this type of information completely unreliable. Of course anyone who gets infected will insist they got it at home not from the guy they shmoozed with during davening. Who or what exactly are they getting infected from in the home unless someone else there is already infected? So then where did that person get it?
    This whole report is nonsense.

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  6. Kalonymus HaQatanJuly 8, 2020 at 9:43 PM

    can you provide a source for this report?

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  7. The post is about Covid19, whereas I.R. is bringing a report about Herpes transmission, but has not provided a link for it

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  8. Results of Rockland Tests of Mohalim Puts Pressure on NYC
    https://hamodia.com/2015/01/12/results-rockland-tests-mohalim-puts-pressure-nyc/
    NEW YORK - After the results of a protocol successfully put into place by the Rockland County Health Department with the close cooperation of the local Orthodox community became public, there have been mounting calls on the NYC Health Department to revise its policy on metzitzah b’peh (MBP)...

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  9. Kalonymus HaQatanJuly 9, 2020 at 1:26 AM

    Merci -


    https://jewishweek.timesofisrael.com/culture-divide-seen-animating-bris-debate/


    Since 2000, 24 babies have contracted neonatal herpes
    following MBP. Two died and two were brain damaged, according to the
    Centers for Disease Control. Some 5,200 babies — 48 percent of all Jewish baby boys in New York City — had a bris with metzitzah b’peh in
    2006, according to a study by Awi Federgruen, a professor of
    quantitative methodology at Columbia Business School.






    After a baby died following MBP in 2005, the Bloomberg
    administration began trying to convince the charedi population to switch
    to a technique in which the mohel sucks on a sterile glass tube to draw
    blood from the wound, a method that is widely used and has beenapproved by the Rabbinical Council of America, the largest umbrella organization for Orthodox rabbis in the United States. In 2012, the Bloomberg administration began requiring parents to sign consent forms
    detailing the risks of MBP. There was no enforcement, however, and the
    forms were greatly resented but almost never used.

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