https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/308106
The World Confederation of United Zionists, one of several groupings within the World Zionist Organization, let go of its secretary-general, American-born Rabbi Dov Lipman, citing his dispute with two women who say he sexually harassed them.
Lipman has always been a self-centered command looking to stick it and lash out against the frum community.
ReplyDeleteChareidi yeshivas put out so many menuvalim
ReplyDeleteSo how does this work al pi halakha? You have two accusers but no witnesses and a denial by the accused.
ReplyDeletedepends, if you go to Gestetner BD, he will protect the man, if you go to MO/OO BD they will protect the woman, and beat the man with a baseball bat.
ReplyDeleteThis guy is Modern Orthodox.
ReplyDeleteHe is chareidi lite.
ReplyDelete"After high school, he studied at Mercaz HaTorah in Jerusalem for two years including during the Gulf War where he was in charge of the yeshiva's sealed room. Lipman continued his studies at Ner Israel Rabbinical College in Baltimore, Maryland where he received rabbinic ordination while studying at Johns Hopkins University where he received a master's degree in education."
He is like the chareidim who run ohr somayach. Aish etc. They all went to Ner, studied "education " in university near the yeshiva. Education - is teacher training, but they abuse this training in their yeshiva life, and mislead the talmidim.
This Lipman guy was always fighting Chareidim. That's how he made his name in Beit Shemesh. Then he joined the anti-Chareidi Yesh Atid of Yair Lapid. He as always self-identified as MO.
ReplyDeleteHe was educated in chareidi yeshivas.
ReplyDeleteBA in Talmud - Ner Israel College, Baltimore
MA in Education - John Hopkins University, Baltimore
Ordained Rabbi - Ner Israel Yeshiva
Wasn't Matis, son of the R'Y, also a menuval? They exiled him.
Lipmsn (if allegations are true) was bootrd by the Zionist organisation, because of his perversions.
Maybe he saw the MO world as a good fodder for his perversions.
This is a case of poetic justice. He was running around Israel and the USA besmirching the Chareidim, wherever he could get a microphone or a platform. Now Hashem has sent some people, to accuse him and besmirch his own name.
ReplyDeleteif he did what they allege, then yes
ReplyDeleteor is it only becasue of his criticism of hareidi outlook that you see it as justice?
I'm not sure you would make a good dayan. If you are a already a dayan, then you can't be a very good one.
Even the Muslims claim that Muhammed once judged between a Muslim and Jew, and found the Jew to be righteous. But your only concern is what a person's ideology is, not the facts of the case. Is this how Gestetner runs his court too?
True. But it is more than that, I think. Lipman was fighting against Tznius.
ReplyDeleteNow we know why he opposes Tznius.
Regardless if he did do what the women allege, or not, I still see it as Hashem’s justice. The symmetry is perfect.
ReplyDeleteHe made it his agenda to besmirch the Chareidi community, for what he perceives as them doing wrong, and now there are women out there out to criticize him, for what they claim that he did wrong.
Midda kneged midda
ReplyDeleteI am not sure what you are asking. This is not a court case. It is an organization deciding they don't want to renew his contract.
ReplyDeleteRegardless of your sense of poetic justice, in a BD both contestants are judged based on the facts presented to the dayanim. If a Dayan is biased about one of them having previously insulted his own community, then the Dayan should remove himself.
ReplyDeleteExactly.
ReplyDeleteIt is said:
Karma has no menu.
You get served what you deserve.
The standard laws applicable to Beis Din are irrelevant, in a one’s personal perception of poetic justice.
ReplyDeleteIs karma a Jewish teaching?
ReplyDeleteWhether or not that is the case, when being motzi Shem ra, gotta adhere to those kinds of standards, to avoid entering the aveira of motzi Shem ra.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/596628/jewish/Do-Jews-Believe-in-Karma.htm
ReplyDeletehttps://www.britannica.com/topic/karma
ReplyDeleteI use the word 'Karma' as a borrowed term, and I was careful to use a generic phrase, "It is said".
ReplyDeleteThe subject has been discussed on this blog many times. Learn the Halachos first, then we can talk.
ReplyDeleteWhat else could it be than Hashem's justice? 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
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