Wednesday, June 3, 2026

Teaching Torah to Women - to benefit Women or Torah?

 Sotah (20a) She had scarcely finished drinking when her face turns green, her eyes protrude and her veins swell; and it is exclaimed, remove her that the temple-court be not defiled if she possessed a merit, it causes the water to suspend its effect upon her. Some merit suspends the effect for one year, another for two years, and another for three years. Hence a man is under the obligation to teach his daughter Torah, so that if she has to drink the water of bitterness, she may know that the merit suspends its effect. R. Eliezer says: whoever teaches his daughter Torah teaches her obscenity. R. Joshua says: a woman prefers one kab and sexual indulgence to nine kab and continence. He used to say, a foolish pietist, a cunning rogue, a female Pharisee, and the plague of Pharisees bring destruction upon the world.

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  1. חָסִיד שׁוֹטֶה, וְרָשָׁע עָרוּם, וְאִשָּׁה פְּרוּשָׁה, וּמַכּוֹת פְּרוּשִׁין — הֲרֵי אֵלּוּ מְבַלֵּי עוֹלָם.
    Something that is ignored in "frum" society. And this is both mo and hareidi.

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  2. "Pharisee" seems wrong translation here

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    1. How would you understand perishim? And how's that different from Pharisee?

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    2. Pharisee is a social construct.
      Prushim just indicates social exclusion.

      MiMedinat HaYam
      (Maybe I'll come back)

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    3. Welcome back MiMedinat - hope to see you more regularly.
      Pharisee is the english version, just as Sadducee applies to Tzedukim.
      Perushim generally applies to those who followed the Oral Law, although in this case it is an extreme class.
      Also in Sotah, Yannai said to his sister, don't be afraid of Tzedukim, or Perushim, only be afraid of Perushim who behave like Zimri but want the reward of Pinchas.

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  3. Just read the bio of the Taz on Wikipedia. The holy Rav David segal .
    It says "Segal's descendants were the Russian rabbinical family Paltrowitch, which produced 33 rabbis over several generations."

    So Gwyneth paltrow is presumably a direct descendant of the Turei zahav!

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    1. She herself claims that.

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