Sunday, March 1, 2015

Mendel Epstein et al indictment for conspiracy to kidnap, torture and extort husbands - for wives wanting to end marriage

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21 comments :

  1. The barbarity, cruelty, haughty contempt and straight out viciousness of Mendel, David and crew is outright astounding. They will be getting what they deserve!

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  2. See latest Zbeng in Daas
    Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: Beis Din of America: Get obtained by torture
    - what is Rav Schwartz' view? ·





    The Red-Bull with the golden goose eggs has no gulions. Pere odom ho'odoim
    haze ben bliyaal asher lo olo oleho ol , yodo bakol, veyad kol odom bo. Your
    pilpulim are pilpulei Hevel, Dmei achecho tsoakim elay min hoadomo. The sh*t is
    bigger than the Bull.

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  3. For the sake of relevancy to this latest post, I reprinted this very recent comment for the convenience of the readers.
    *

    I hereby would like to challenge each and all that utilize force to extract
    a Get and consider it valid. Even according to the Rambam of which in any
    case is in the minority, kofin oso ad sheyomar rotse ani works through the
    interpretation and logic that the soul underneath it all, truly wants to
    be compliant, therefore it is considered as if his own WILL, in spite it is
    accomplished under use of force. There clearly is a world of a difference
    between various categories of a person in accomplishing a task. There is a,
    Shogeg, Meizid, Rotzon, Onnes, Mumer Lehachiss, Mumer leteiovon, and IYUM or
    under "Threat of Life". Threat of life, which Talmud calls it 'MEAYMIM', even
    the Rambam and ALL Poskim will admit that it is clear whatever the victim
    directs under such circumstances SAHADEI BAMROMIM, is due to his fear for life,
    and NOT the will of his soul to do so. There are two forms of THREATS of life,
    one is Verbal only, and when taking it one step further, is actually acting it
    out in stages whereby the victim is realizing the threat real time in midst of being
    carried out, leading to believe that Death is imminent. This salami slicing technique is
    used in extracting information from terrorists etc. In such cases the WILL of
    the person is totally DIMINISHED to being non-existent and whatever he says is
    due and because of, he is at the mercy of his captor. Therefore, even the Rambam
    will say that such Gittin are invalid. Indeed, that is the reason why the
    Rambam uses the word "Kofin oso", and NOT "Meaymim oso". So there you have it
    Goon Squad, waterboarders, bathtub drowners, karate choppers, electric prodders,
    noose hangers, kill-him orderers, heart attack inducers, hooders, garbage bag
    chokers, traumatic face beaters, hand cuffers, cemetery disposers, chair
    binders, Kol dealim gvar'ers, yodayim yedei Eisav'ers, veal raglayim memaharim
    loruts leRo'o, veal chatoim sheatem chayovim 'BITSDIYAS REYA", blood spillers, 5
    Ton bull movers and all the rest that think they are above the LAW. You scum of
    the earth, mamzerim manufacturers, you have no prayer. Ayin tachas Ayin, Shen
    tachas Shen, kaasher zomam laasos. As for you bas sheva - bas bliya'al that
    spilled Capo di tutti capi's do do on his head while cleaning his weapons, job
    well done. For more on this story see Megilat Esther of what happened to Haman
    and his 'ten' henchman. Lock them up and throw away the key!

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  4. The rot starts at the top and until such time as it is corrected at the top one cannot expect the rest of the body to act any different than being rotten!!!

    Honesty said: "The barbarity, cruelty, haughty contempt and straight out viciousness of Mendel, David and crew is outright astounding. They will be getting what they deserve!"

    Very funny and VERY hypocritical coming from you of all people!

    Considering that on this blog you and your buddy Moe justified RAS & RAF NOT going to Bais Din when summoned by Rav Moshe Feinstein and the CRC while now (thinking no one will notice) making light of the "barbarity, cruelty, haughty contempt and straight out viciousness" towards RSC and making fun as if they were jokes of ANYONE who stood up for RSC and the avla committed against him!

    For you now to come along and "condemn" Epstein et al for their abuse of Bais Din for their own nefarious aims while overlooking RAS's & RAF's blatant abuse of Bais Din and publicly trashing correct judicial due process al pi Halacha, not to mention that RSC played by the (Halacha) book and never went to Arkaos but to this day demands SIMPLE justice in Bais Din for himself, while facing literal threats and abuse from RAS & RAF et all, something that defies all logic and that you overlook with your selective choice of what suits you and what does not!

    Shame on you! Go be a hypocrite some place else and stop polluting this blog with you non-commentary, PLEASE!!

    The rot starts at the top and until such time as it is
    corrected at the top one cannot expect the rest of the body to act any
    different than being rotten!!!


    Moe and Honesty debating the role of Bais Din:

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  5. Hello to my dear and sweet brother RaP!

    I just wanted to drop you a note letting you know that my brotherly love for you has not dropped one iota and I still love you dearly.

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  6. @RaP - the two cases are obviously unrelated. Your anger is not helping you get your point acr

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  7. What happened to the French connection? a/k/a/ RCA/ORA, HUH? Hadn't they played a role in these communications as indicated in the correspondence? BTW, I can't find a date on these court documents. Can somebody please have a run down on the status of this show.Thank you.

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  8. I apply to Mendel Epstein et al:

    A passerby who gets embroiled
    in someone else’s quarrel Is like one who seizes a dog by its ears. Like a
    madman scattering deadly firebrands, arrows, Is one who cheats his fellow and
    says, “I was only joking” (Proverbs 26:17-19).

    A man and his wife fighting is
    like 2 dogs fighting. Outsiders should
    stay away. This is none of their
    business. The man must be willing to give his wife a get, for the get to have
    any validity.

    The rough methods of Mendel Epstein et al make for illegitimate
    offspring where the wife may think herself divorced and live with a man not her
    husband and have children with him, Heaven forbid. This would never happen in Israel. I think Mendel Epstein et al stay away from
    Israel because they know Israel would not tolerate their mad behavior. Monsey, Lakewood, and Borough Park do
    tolerate such behavior! They are fellow conspirators. Jews in Monsey, Lakewood,
    and Borough Park, wake up and move to Israel.

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  9. Epstein relayed on walmark to do research on the FBI case. All others he did himself . look David wax tried to extort an additional 100k . he is the real kidnapper here. Me just detained for a few min to extort the Hubby's will for a get. Only covering his costs. He did many cases for free as the agunah had no monney . so even if we disagree with him in halocha we should be supporting him in his legal case

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  10. Goldie:


    1. Where did you get your information that David Max tried to extort 100K? From whom did he try to extort it and why? Wax worked with Epstein in beating Yisreol Briskman in Lakewood into giving a Get.



    2. David Wax has nothing to do with the FBI case that Epstein and Wolmark were busted on. Wax also had nothing to do with all the other husbands Epstein beat up over the last 25 years.


    3. Mendel Epstein and Martin Wolmark caused untold numbers of mamzeirim with the false and invalid gittin he produced under illegal coercion contrary to halacha where he fooled the wife into thinking the Get produced from beating her husband was kosher. Causing Get Me'usas and mamzeirim is as bad as it can get.

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  11. look David wax tried to extort an additional 100k

    On whose command?

    Me just detained for a few min

    Broken ribs.


    Zapped genitials.


    Punched in the face
    , several times. Etc. etc.


    Only covering his costs.



    LOL


    $60,000 is costs? Costs of what? He should have gone out and found a honest and decent living that's not reliant on beating people up, destroying children and creating mamzeirim.

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  12. Hi, dear RaP. How do you do? I would like to second Moe's declaration. I, too, have some brotherly love for you. You're a great guy.

    You know, it's amazing just how Moe and Honesty are coordinated

    How do you mean that, Mr. CBT?

    You two came on board like squatters on this blog around the time of the Israel Bais Yaakov scandal

    You may want to take a look at archives, available on the sidebar. I've posted for several months before - just under different names. Once Disqus was installed, it's been "honesty".

    when RAS got involved

    What in the world are you talking about?

    Your hatred of Rav Aahron Schechter has completely blurred your judgment. Let it go, RaP. You've been on this mission for at least eight years. What has all this vindictiveness done for you?

    Did you care one bit about the Hirsch boy??! He was simply a convenient tool to use to beat up on Rav Aahron. Same with other of your "causes".

    שנאה מקלקלת את השורה


    Let it go...
    -----


    BTW, I've been accused of being Meisels. I've been thought to be Yoely Weiss. Now its Moe Ginsburg. Nu. I shall be honored.

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  13. Jeeepers!!!
    You've got a lot of anger built up within. Get help man. It doesn't have to be this hard.

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  14. Epstein did nothing free. Everything was about money. He worked both sides of the fence. Extorting gittin for a fee. Providing heter me'ahs for a fee. When the wife showed up after the heter me'ah to pick up the get, she too needed to pay, or the get would somehow become very hard to find. We're talking serious money, fees of 25k and up.

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  15. A man and his wife fighting are like 2 dogs fighting. Outsiders should
    stay away. This is none of their business


    A convenient philosophy. Let people do what they will, just or unjust, good or wicked. Never protect the innocent. Just keep on walking.

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  16. Don't
    be so gullible. For someone taking advantage over those that are desperate
    enough to pay such exorbitant prices after turning over all stones
    unsuccessfully, such a brutal beast has no mercy whatsoever. The reason he had
    the luxury to charge such, is because he worked outside of the law and outside
    of the Halacha. He never recruited anybody without pay, nor offered HIS own
    services for free, or performing under 60-G for a pop. David Wax is responsible
    for his own deeds, and if he can barter with the Government for a song and a
    dance, he WILL sing to his hearts content and be let of the hook, that is the
    deal of the land between Law and Order and Mr. BeezWax. Mr. "Me's" detaining for
    just a couple of minutes is the essence of why the Kidnapping took place, and
    that is not only part and parcel of the crime, but everything was done on his
    clock from beginning to end, by his architecture and design, at his behest. The
    two main ingredients of this whole concoction has been realized, namely
    Kidnapping for a fee, AND to extract some other consideration, such as
    forcing the Husband to disown his wife against his wishes. The issue of time,
    whether a few minutes or a few hours is not relevant to the crimes at hand. In
    the eyes of the Law, Kidnapping a Bank officer and threatening his life to wire
    over millions of Dollars is the same if he is held for many hours till
    accomplished. Therefore, neither Halachically nor thru the Law of the Land does
    he deserve support, mercy or otherwise, and let the brunt of the force of
    punishment weigh upon him without Mercy. Since we don't have the Electric Chair
    as an option, lock him up for good and throw away the key. The only thing going
    for him is his age and cannot suffer rotting away for decades to come as he
    inflicted on our Brethren and his offsprings. Good Riddens! Wishing us all a
    happy Venahapoch Hu.

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  17. http://www.nj.com/ocean/index.ssf/2015/03/brooklyn_man_testifies_he_was_victim_in_lakewood_r.html

    'Give a divorce,' attackers yelled as they beat men, victim testifies in Lakewood rabbi trial

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  18. On Page 3) Paragraph 2, it so states "conspired and agreed together and with OTHERS KNOWN and UNKNOWN", who might they be??? Is this the possible reference to RCA/ORA??? Does anyone know why this is left so obfuscated? Would love to hear your opinion.

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  19. RaP: You forgot to take it this morning, so here:

    http://www.drugdangers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/prozac.jpg

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  20. Allow me to quote:

    "A passerby who gets embroiled in someone else’s quarrel Is like one who seizes a dog by its ears. Like a madman scattering deadly firebrands, arrows, Is one who cheats his fellow and says, “I was only joking.” For lack of wood a fire goes out, And without a querulous man contention is stilled. (Proverbs 26:17-20).

    The Malbim says on Proverbs 26:20:
    “The word madon (from the root din law) denotes disputing and
    quarreling that lead to litigation at court. This is what develops when a person constantly grumbles and complains that he has been wronged. Without such audible bitterness, fed by resentment and hate, quarrels between neighbors will subside before they ever reach the court---like a fire dying out when it gets no wood to sustain it.”

    I apply this to those wives that speak evil of their husbands and hire Mendel Epstein et al.

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  21. Allow me to quote:

    A passerby who gets embroiled
    in someone else’s quarrel Is like one who seizes a dog by its ears. Like a
    madman scattering deadly firebrands, arrows, Is one who cheats his fellow and
    says, “I was only joking.” For lack of wood a fire goes out, And without a
    querulous man contention is stilled. (Proverbs 26:17-20).

    The Malbim says on Proverbs 26:17:
    “If a dog is walking along quietly and someone seizes it by its ears, he will
    have it barking furiously and biting him. Similarly, if he grows furious about
    some rancorous argument that does not concern him and decides to interfere, he
    will find himself calumniated and even “bitten” verbally.”

    The Malbim says on Proverbs 26:18-19:
    “Firebrands burn clothing, ordinary arrows inflict wounds, poisoned arrows
    kill. Similarly, deceit and swindle can
    bring money damage, then physical illness and injury, and ultimately
    psychological injury. Yet the wrongdoer
    may think it all a joke.

    The Malbim says on Proverbs 26:20:
    “The word madon (from the root din law) denotes disputing and
    quarreling that lead to litigation at court.
    This is what develops when a person constantly grumbles and complains
    that he has been wronged. Without such audible
    bitterness, fed by resentment and hate, quarrels between neighbors will subside
    before they ever reach the court---like a fire dying out when it gets no wood
    to sustain it.”

    I apply this to those wives that
    speak evil of their husbands to Agunah Inc. Agunah Inc grows furious and
    decides to interfere. Agunah Inc finds
    itself facing calumniation and verbal attack.

    These wicked wives who bad-mouth
    their husbands inflict money damages through deceit and swindle. They hire Mendel Epstein et al to inflict physical
    illness and injury, and ultimately psychological injury. The wrongdoers think it all a joke while
    claiming to do a mitzvah.

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