The barbarity, cruelty, haughty contempt and straight out viciousness of Mendel, David and crew is outright astounding. They will be getting what they deserve!
See latest Zbeng in Daas Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: Beis Din of America: Get obtained by torture - what is Rav Schwartz' view? ·
The Red-Bull with the golden goose eggs has no gulions. Pere odom ho'odoim haze ben bliyaal asher lo olo oleho ol , yodo bakol, veyad kol odom bo. Your pilpulim are pilpulei Hevel, Dmei achecho tsoakim elay min hoadomo. The sh*t is bigger than the Bull.
For the sake of relevancy to this latest post, I reprinted this very recent comment for the convenience of the readers. *
I hereby would like to challenge each and all that utilize force to extract a Get and consider it valid. Even according to the Rambam of which in any case is in the minority, kofin oso ad sheyomar rotse ani works through the interpretation and logic that the soul underneath it all, truly wants to be compliant, therefore it is considered as if his own WILL, in spite it is accomplished under use of force. There clearly is a world of a difference between various categories of a person in accomplishing a task. There is a, Shogeg, Meizid, Rotzon, Onnes, Mumer Lehachiss, Mumer leteiovon, and IYUM or under "Threat of Life". Threat of life, which Talmud calls it 'MEAYMIM', even the Rambam and ALL Poskim will admit that it is clear whatever the victim directs under such circumstances SAHADEI BAMROMIM, is due to his fear for life, and NOT the will of his soul to do so. There are two forms of THREATS of life, one is Verbal only, and when taking it one step further, is actually acting it out in stages whereby the victim is realizing the threat real time in midst of being carried out, leading to believe that Death is imminent. This salami slicing technique is used in extracting information from terrorists etc. In such cases the WILL of the person is totally DIMINISHED to being non-existent and whatever he says is due and because of, he is at the mercy of his captor. Therefore, even the Rambam will say that such Gittin are invalid. Indeed, that is the reason why the Rambam uses the word "Kofin oso", and NOT "Meaymim oso". So there you have it Goon Squad, waterboarders, bathtub drowners, karate choppers, electric prodders, noose hangers, kill-him orderers, heart attack inducers, hooders, garbage bag chokers, traumatic face beaters, hand cuffers, cemetery disposers, chair binders, Kol dealim gvar'ers, yodayim yedei Eisav'ers, veal raglayim memaharim loruts leRo'o, veal chatoim sheatem chayovim 'BITSDIYAS REYA", blood spillers, 5 Ton bull movers and all the rest that think they are above the LAW. You scum of the earth, mamzerim manufacturers, you have no prayer. Ayin tachas Ayin, Shen tachas Shen, kaasher zomam laasos. As for you bas sheva - bas bliya'al that spilled Capo di tutti capi's do do on his head while cleaning his weapons, job well done. For more on this story see Megilat Esther of what happened to Haman and his 'ten' henchman. Lock them up and throw away the key!
The rot starts at the top and until such time as it is corrected at the top one cannot expect the rest of the body to act any different than being rotten!!!
Honesty said: "The barbarity, cruelty, haughty contempt and straight out viciousness of Mendel, David and crew is outright astounding. They will be getting what they deserve!"
Very funny and VERY hypocritical coming from you of all people!
Considering that on this blog you and your buddy Moe justified RAS & RAF NOT going to Bais Din when summoned by Rav Moshe Feinstein and the CRC while now (thinking no one will notice) making light of the "barbarity, cruelty, haughty contempt and straight out viciousness" towards RSC and making fun as if they were jokes of ANYONE who stood up for RSC and the avla committed against him!
For you now to come along and "condemn" Epstein et al for their abuse of Bais Din for their own nefarious aims while overlooking RAS's & RAF's blatant abuse of Bais Din and publicly trashing correct judicial due process al pi Halacha, not to mention that RSC played by the (Halacha) book and never went to Arkaos but to this day demands SIMPLE justice in Bais Din for himself, while facing literal threats and abuse from RAS & RAF et all, something that defies all logic and that you overlook with your selective choice of what suits you and what does not!
Shame on you! Go be a hypocrite some place else and stop polluting this blog with you non-commentary, PLEASE!!
The rot starts at the top and until such time as it is corrected at the top one cannot expect the rest of the body to act any different than being rotten!!!
What happened to the French connection? a/k/a/ RCA/ORA, HUH? Hadn't they played a role in these communications as indicated in the correspondence? BTW, I can't find a date on these court documents. Can somebody please have a run down on the status of this show.Thank you.
A passerby who gets embroiled in someone else’s quarrel Is like one who seizes a dog by its ears. Like a madman scattering deadly firebrands, arrows, Is one who cheats his fellow and says, “I was only joking” (Proverbs 26:17-19).
A man and his wife fighting is like 2 dogs fighting. Outsiders should stay away. This is none of their business. The man must be willing to give his wife a get, for the get to have any validity.
The rough methods of Mendel Epstein et al make for illegitimate offspring where the wife may think herself divorced and live with a man not her husband and have children with him, Heaven forbid. This would never happen in Israel. I think Mendel Epstein et al stay away from Israel because they know Israel would not tolerate their mad behavior. Monsey, Lakewood, and Borough Park do tolerate such behavior! They are fellow conspirators. Jews in Monsey, Lakewood, and Borough Park, wake up and move to Israel.
Epstein relayed on walmark to do research on the FBI case. All others he did himself . look David wax tried to extort an additional 100k . he is the real kidnapper here. Me just detained for a few min to extort the Hubby's will for a get. Only covering his costs. He did many cases for free as the agunah had no monney . so even if we disagree with him in halocha we should be supporting him in his legal case
1. Where did you get your information that David Max tried to extort 100K? From whom did he try to extort it and why? Wax worked with Epstein in beating Yisreol Briskman in Lakewood into giving a Get.
2. David Wax has nothing to do with the FBI case that Epstein and Wolmark were busted on. Wax also had nothing to do with all the other husbands Epstein beat up over the last 25 years.
3. Mendel Epstein and Martin Wolmark caused untold numbers of mamzeirim with the false and invalid gittin he produced under illegal coercion contrary to halacha where he fooled the wife into thinking the Get produced from beating her husband was kosher. Causing Get Me'usas and mamzeirim is as bad as it can get.
$60,000 is costs? Costs of what? He should have gone out and found a honest and decent living that's not reliant on beating people up, destroying children and creating mamzeirim.
Hi, dear RaP. How do you do? I would like to second Moe's declaration. I, too, have some brotherly love for you. You're a great guy.
You know, it's amazing just how Moe and Honesty are coordinated
How do you mean that, Mr. CBT?
You two came on board like squatters on this blog around the time of the Israel Bais Yaakov scandal
You may want to take a look at archives, available on the sidebar. I've posted for several months before - just under different names. Once Disqus was installed, it's been "honesty".
when RAS got involved
What in the world are you talking about?
Your hatred of Rav Aahron Schechter has completely blurred your judgment. Let it go, RaP. You've been on this mission for at least eight years. What has all this vindictiveness done for you?
Did you care one bit about the Hirsch boy??! He was simply a convenient tool to use to beat up on Rav Aahron. Same with other of your "causes".
שנאה מקלקלת את השורה
Let it go... -----
BTW, I've been accused of being Meisels. I've been thought to be Yoely Weiss. Now its Moe Ginsburg. Nu. I shall be honored.
Epstein did nothing free. Everything was about money. He worked both sides of the fence. Extorting gittin for a fee. Providing heter me'ahs for a fee. When the wife showed up after the heter me'ah to pick up the get, she too needed to pay, or the get would somehow become very hard to find. We're talking serious money, fees of 25k and up.
Don't be so gullible. For someone taking advantage over those that are desperate enough to pay such exorbitant prices after turning over all stones unsuccessfully, such a brutal beast has no mercy whatsoever. The reason he had the luxury to charge such, is because he worked outside of the law and outside of the Halacha. He never recruited anybody without pay, nor offered HIS own services for free, or performing under 60-G for a pop. David Wax is responsible for his own deeds, and if he can barter with the Government for a song and a dance, he WILL sing to his hearts content and be let of the hook, that is the deal of the land between Law and Order and Mr. BeezWax. Mr. "Me's" detaining for just a couple of minutes is the essence of why the Kidnapping took place, and that is not only part and parcel of the crime, but everything was done on his clock from beginning to end, by his architecture and design, at his behest. The two main ingredients of this whole concoction has been realized, namely Kidnapping for a fee, AND to extract some other consideration, such as forcing the Husband to disown his wife against his wishes. The issue of time, whether a few minutes or a few hours is not relevant to the crimes at hand. In the eyes of the Law, Kidnapping a Bank officer and threatening his life to wire over millions of Dollars is the same if he is held for many hours till accomplished. Therefore, neither Halachically nor thru the Law of the Land does he deserve support, mercy or otherwise, and let the brunt of the force of punishment weigh upon him without Mercy. Since we don't have the Electric Chair as an option, lock him up for good and throw away the key. The only thing going for him is his age and cannot suffer rotting away for decades to come as he inflicted on our Brethren and his offsprings. Good Riddens! Wishing us all a happy Venahapoch Hu.
On Page 3) Paragraph 2, it so states "conspired and agreed together and with OTHERS KNOWN and UNKNOWN", who might they be??? Is this the possible reference to RCA/ORA??? Does anyone know why this is left so obfuscated? Would love to hear your opinion.
"A passerby who gets embroiled in someone else’s quarrel Is like one who seizes a dog by its ears. Like a madman scattering deadly firebrands, arrows, Is one who cheats his fellow and says, “I was only joking.” For lack of wood a fire goes out, And without a querulous man contention is stilled. (Proverbs 26:17-20).
The Malbim says on Proverbs 26:20: “The word madon (from the root din law) denotes disputing and quarreling that lead to litigation at court. This is what develops when a person constantly grumbles and complains that he has been wronged. Without such audible bitterness, fed by resentment and hate, quarrels between neighbors will subside before they ever reach the court---like a fire dying out when it gets no wood to sustain it.”
I apply this to those wives that speak evil of their husbands and hire Mendel Epstein et al.
A passerby who gets embroiled in someone else’s quarrel Is like one who seizes a dog by its ears. Like a madman scattering deadly firebrands, arrows, Is one who cheats his fellow and says, “I was only joking.” For lack of wood a fire goes out, And without a querulous man contention is stilled. (Proverbs 26:17-20).
The Malbim says on Proverbs 26:17: “If a dog is walking along quietly and someone seizes it by its ears, he will have it barking furiously and biting him. Similarly, if he grows furious about some rancorous argument that does not concern him and decides to interfere, he will find himself calumniated and even “bitten” verbally.”
The Malbim says on Proverbs 26:18-19: “Firebrands burn clothing, ordinary arrows inflict wounds, poisoned arrows kill. Similarly, deceit and swindle can bring money damage, then physical illness and injury, and ultimately psychological injury. Yet the wrongdoer may think it all a joke.
The Malbim says on Proverbs 26:20: “The word madon (from the root din law) denotes disputing and quarreling that lead to litigation at court. This is what develops when a person constantly grumbles and complains that he has been wronged. Without such audible bitterness, fed by resentment and hate, quarrels between neighbors will subside before they ever reach the court---like a fire dying out when it gets no wood to sustain it.”
I apply this to those wives that speak evil of their husbands to Agunah Inc. Agunah Inc grows furious and decides to interfere. Agunah Inc finds itself facing calumniation and verbal attack.
These wicked wives who bad-mouth their husbands inflict money damages through deceit and swindle. They hire Mendel Epstein et al to inflict physical illness and injury, and ultimately psychological injury. The wrongdoers think it all a joke while claiming to do a mitzvah.
The barbarity, cruelty, haughty contempt and straight out viciousness of Mendel, David and crew is outright astounding. They will be getting what they deserve!
ReplyDeleteSee latest Zbeng in Daas
ReplyDeleteTorah - Issues of Jewish Identity: Beis Din of America: Get obtained by torture
- what is Rav Schwartz' view? ·
The Red-Bull with the golden goose eggs has no gulions. Pere odom ho'odoim
haze ben bliyaal asher lo olo oleho ol , yodo bakol, veyad kol odom bo. Your
pilpulim are pilpulei Hevel, Dmei achecho tsoakim elay min hoadomo. The sh*t is
bigger than the Bull.
For the sake of relevancy to this latest post, I reprinted this very recent comment for the convenience of the readers.
ReplyDelete*
I hereby would like to challenge each and all that utilize force to extract
a Get and consider it valid. Even according to the Rambam of which in any
case is in the minority, kofin oso ad sheyomar rotse ani works through the
interpretation and logic that the soul underneath it all, truly wants to
be compliant, therefore it is considered as if his own WILL, in spite it is
accomplished under use of force. There clearly is a world of a difference
between various categories of a person in accomplishing a task. There is a,
Shogeg, Meizid, Rotzon, Onnes, Mumer Lehachiss, Mumer leteiovon, and IYUM or
under "Threat of Life". Threat of life, which Talmud calls it 'MEAYMIM', even
the Rambam and ALL Poskim will admit that it is clear whatever the victim
directs under such circumstances SAHADEI BAMROMIM, is due to his fear for life,
and NOT the will of his soul to do so. There are two forms of THREATS of life,
one is Verbal only, and when taking it one step further, is actually acting it
out in stages whereby the victim is realizing the threat real time in midst of being
carried out, leading to believe that Death is imminent. This salami slicing technique is
used in extracting information from terrorists etc. In such cases the WILL of
the person is totally DIMINISHED to being non-existent and whatever he says is
due and because of, he is at the mercy of his captor. Therefore, even the Rambam
will say that such Gittin are invalid. Indeed, that is the reason why the
Rambam uses the word "Kofin oso", and NOT "Meaymim oso". So there you have it
Goon Squad, waterboarders, bathtub drowners, karate choppers, electric prodders,
noose hangers, kill-him orderers, heart attack inducers, hooders, garbage bag
chokers, traumatic face beaters, hand cuffers, cemetery disposers, chair
binders, Kol dealim gvar'ers, yodayim yedei Eisav'ers, veal raglayim memaharim
loruts leRo'o, veal chatoim sheatem chayovim 'BITSDIYAS REYA", blood spillers, 5
Ton bull movers and all the rest that think they are above the LAW. You scum of
the earth, mamzerim manufacturers, you have no prayer. Ayin tachas Ayin, Shen
tachas Shen, kaasher zomam laasos. As for you bas sheva - bas bliya'al that
spilled Capo di tutti capi's do do on his head while cleaning his weapons, job
well done. For more on this story see Megilat Esther of what happened to Haman
and his 'ten' henchman. Lock them up and throw away the key!
The rot starts at the top and until such time as it is corrected at the top one cannot expect the rest of the body to act any different than being rotten!!!
ReplyDeleteHonesty said: "The barbarity, cruelty, haughty contempt and straight out viciousness of Mendel, David and crew is outright astounding. They will be getting what they deserve!"
Very funny and VERY hypocritical coming from you of all people!
Considering that on this blog you and your buddy Moe justified RAS & RAF NOT going to Bais Din when summoned by Rav Moshe Feinstein and the CRC while now (thinking no one will notice) making light of the "barbarity, cruelty, haughty contempt and straight out viciousness" towards RSC and making fun as if they were jokes of ANYONE who stood up for RSC and the avla committed against him!
For you now to come along and "condemn" Epstein et al for their abuse of Bais Din for their own nefarious aims while overlooking RAS's & RAF's blatant abuse of Bais Din and publicly trashing correct judicial due process al pi Halacha, not to mention that RSC played by the (Halacha) book and never went to Arkaos but to this day demands SIMPLE justice in Bais Din for himself, while facing literal threats and abuse from RAS & RAF et all, something that defies all logic and that you overlook with your selective choice of what suits you and what does not!
Shame on you! Go be a hypocrite some place else and stop polluting this blog with you non-commentary, PLEASE!!
The rot starts at the top and until such time as it is
corrected at the top one cannot expect the rest of the body to act any
different than being rotten!!!
Moe and Honesty debating the role of Bais Din:
Hello to my dear and sweet brother RaP!
ReplyDeleteI just wanted to drop you a note letting you know that my brotherly love for you has not dropped one iota and I still love you dearly.
@RaP - the two cases are obviously unrelated. Your anger is not helping you get your point acr
ReplyDeleteWhat happened to the French connection? a/k/a/ RCA/ORA, HUH? Hadn't they played a role in these communications as indicated in the correspondence? BTW, I can't find a date on these court documents. Can somebody please have a run down on the status of this show.Thank you.
ReplyDeleteI apply to Mendel Epstein et al:
ReplyDeleteA passerby who gets embroiled
in someone else’s quarrel Is like one who seizes a dog by its ears. Like a
madman scattering deadly firebrands, arrows, Is one who cheats his fellow and
says, “I was only joking” (Proverbs 26:17-19).
A man and his wife fighting is
like 2 dogs fighting. Outsiders should
stay away. This is none of their
business. The man must be willing to give his wife a get, for the get to have
any validity.
The rough methods of Mendel Epstein et al make for illegitimate
offspring where the wife may think herself divorced and live with a man not her
husband and have children with him, Heaven forbid. This would never happen in Israel. I think Mendel Epstein et al stay away from
Israel because they know Israel would not tolerate their mad behavior. Monsey, Lakewood, and Borough Park do
tolerate such behavior! They are fellow conspirators. Jews in Monsey, Lakewood,
and Borough Park, wake up and move to Israel.
Epstein relayed on walmark to do research on the FBI case. All others he did himself . look David wax tried to extort an additional 100k . he is the real kidnapper here. Me just detained for a few min to extort the Hubby's will for a get. Only covering his costs. He did many cases for free as the agunah had no monney . so even if we disagree with him in halocha we should be supporting him in his legal case
ReplyDeleteGoldie:
ReplyDelete1. Where did you get your information that David Max tried to extort 100K? From whom did he try to extort it and why? Wax worked with Epstein in beating Yisreol Briskman in Lakewood into giving a Get.
2. David Wax has nothing to do with the FBI case that Epstein and Wolmark were busted on. Wax also had nothing to do with all the other husbands Epstein beat up over the last 25 years.
3. Mendel Epstein and Martin Wolmark caused untold numbers of mamzeirim with the false and invalid gittin he produced under illegal coercion contrary to halacha where he fooled the wife into thinking the Get produced from beating her husband was kosher. Causing Get Me'usas and mamzeirim is as bad as it can get.
look David wax tried to extort an additional 100k
ReplyDeleteOn whose command?
Me just detained for a few min
Broken ribs.
Zapped genitials.
Punched in the face, several times. Etc. etc.
Only covering his costs.
LOL
$60,000 is costs? Costs of what? He should have gone out and found a honest and decent living that's not reliant on beating people up, destroying children and creating mamzeirim.
Hi, dear RaP. How do you do? I would like to second Moe's declaration. I, too, have some brotherly love for you. You're a great guy.
ReplyDeleteYou know, it's amazing just how Moe and Honesty are coordinated
How do you mean that, Mr. CBT?
You two came on board like squatters on this blog around the time of the Israel Bais Yaakov scandal
You may want to take a look at archives, available on the sidebar. I've posted for several months before - just under different names. Once Disqus was installed, it's been "honesty".
when RAS got involved
What in the world are you talking about?
Your hatred of Rav Aahron Schechter has completely blurred your judgment. Let it go, RaP. You've been on this mission for at least eight years. What has all this vindictiveness done for you?
Did you care one bit about the Hirsch boy??! He was simply a convenient tool to use to beat up on Rav Aahron. Same with other of your "causes".
שנאה מקלקלת את השורה
Let it go...
-----
BTW, I've been accused of being Meisels. I've been thought to be Yoely Weiss. Now its Moe Ginsburg. Nu. I shall be honored.
Jeeepers!!!
ReplyDeleteYou've got a lot of anger built up within. Get help man. It doesn't have to be this hard.
Epstein did nothing free. Everything was about money. He worked both sides of the fence. Extorting gittin for a fee. Providing heter me'ahs for a fee. When the wife showed up after the heter me'ah to pick up the get, she too needed to pay, or the get would somehow become very hard to find. We're talking serious money, fees of 25k and up.
ReplyDeleteA man and his wife fighting are like 2 dogs fighting. Outsiders should
ReplyDeletestay away. This is none of their business
A convenient philosophy. Let people do what they will, just or unjust, good or wicked. Never protect the innocent. Just keep on walking.
Don't
ReplyDeletebe so gullible. For someone taking advantage over those that are desperate
enough to pay such exorbitant prices after turning over all stones
unsuccessfully, such a brutal beast has no mercy whatsoever. The reason he had
the luxury to charge such, is because he worked outside of the law and outside
of the Halacha. He never recruited anybody without pay, nor offered HIS own
services for free, or performing under 60-G for a pop. David Wax is responsible
for his own deeds, and if he can barter with the Government for a song and a
dance, he WILL sing to his hearts content and be let of the hook, that is the
deal of the land between Law and Order and Mr. BeezWax. Mr. "Me's" detaining for
just a couple of minutes is the essence of why the Kidnapping took place, and
that is not only part and parcel of the crime, but everything was done on his
clock from beginning to end, by his architecture and design, at his behest. The
two main ingredients of this whole concoction has been realized, namely
Kidnapping for a fee, AND to extract some other consideration, such as
forcing the Husband to disown his wife against his wishes. The issue of time,
whether a few minutes or a few hours is not relevant to the crimes at hand. In
the eyes of the Law, Kidnapping a Bank officer and threatening his life to wire
over millions of Dollars is the same if he is held for many hours till
accomplished. Therefore, neither Halachically nor thru the Law of the Land does
he deserve support, mercy or otherwise, and let the brunt of the force of
punishment weigh upon him without Mercy. Since we don't have the Electric Chair
as an option, lock him up for good and throw away the key. The only thing going
for him is his age and cannot suffer rotting away for decades to come as he
inflicted on our Brethren and his offsprings. Good Riddens! Wishing us all a
happy Venahapoch Hu.
http://www.nj.com/ocean/index.ssf/2015/03/brooklyn_man_testifies_he_was_victim_in_lakewood_r.html
ReplyDelete'Give a divorce,' attackers yelled as they beat men, victim testifies in Lakewood rabbi trial
On Page 3) Paragraph 2, it so states "conspired and agreed together and with OTHERS KNOWN and UNKNOWN", who might they be??? Is this the possible reference to RCA/ORA??? Does anyone know why this is left so obfuscated? Would love to hear your opinion.
ReplyDeleteRaP: You forgot to take it this morning, so here:
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Allow me to quote:
ReplyDelete"A passerby who gets embroiled in someone else’s quarrel Is like one who seizes a dog by its ears. Like a madman scattering deadly firebrands, arrows, Is one who cheats his fellow and says, “I was only joking.” For lack of wood a fire goes out, And without a querulous man contention is stilled. (Proverbs 26:17-20).
The Malbim says on Proverbs 26:20:
“The word madon (from the root din law) denotes disputing and
quarreling that lead to litigation at court. This is what develops when a person constantly grumbles and complains that he has been wronged. Without such audible bitterness, fed by resentment and hate, quarrels between neighbors will subside before they ever reach the court---like a fire dying out when it gets no wood to sustain it.”
I apply this to those wives that speak evil of their husbands and hire Mendel Epstein et al.
Allow me to quote:
ReplyDeleteA passerby who gets embroiled
in someone else’s quarrel Is like one who seizes a dog by its ears. Like a
madman scattering deadly firebrands, arrows, Is one who cheats his fellow and
says, “I was only joking.” For lack of wood a fire goes out, And without a
querulous man contention is stilled. (Proverbs 26:17-20).
The Malbim says on Proverbs 26:17:
“If a dog is walking along quietly and someone seizes it by its ears, he will
have it barking furiously and biting him. Similarly, if he grows furious about
some rancorous argument that does not concern him and decides to interfere, he
will find himself calumniated and even “bitten” verbally.”
The Malbim says on Proverbs 26:18-19:
“Firebrands burn clothing, ordinary arrows inflict wounds, poisoned arrows
kill. Similarly, deceit and swindle can
bring money damage, then physical illness and injury, and ultimately
psychological injury. Yet the wrongdoer
may think it all a joke.
The Malbim says on Proverbs 26:20:
“The word madon (from the root din law) denotes disputing and
quarreling that lead to litigation at court.
This is what develops when a person constantly grumbles and complains
that he has been wronged. Without such audible
bitterness, fed by resentment and hate, quarrels between neighbors will subside
before they ever reach the court---like a fire dying out when it gets no wood
to sustain it.”
I apply this to those wives that
speak evil of their husbands to Agunah Inc. Agunah Inc grows furious and
decides to interfere. Agunah Inc finds
itself facing calumniation and verbal attack.
These wicked wives who bad-mouth
their husbands inflict money damages through deceit and swindle. They hire Mendel Epstein et al to inflict physical
illness and injury, and ultimately psychological injury. The wrongdoers think it all a joke while
claiming to do a mitzvah.