Dovid EidensohnOctober 24, 2013 at 9:17 PM
Is
there any focus on our future, where all who agree with the major
poskim and the Shulchan Aruch will not be able to marry the products of
invalid divorces from the followers of Kotler and company? And if there
is a great war in Israel between the rabbonut and gedolim about
divorces, what does that mean? Are we thinking and talking about that,
or are there more important issues?
R' Dovid:
I'm imagining that the identifying the "products" of these Gittin would require some sort of registry run by people that have the Gedolim's CLEAR stamp of approval.
That's a tough call, because as the author states, Sincere Batei Dinim are afraid to come out in the open against the Rabbanut, because they need the Rabbanut's אישור on Gittin.
How about dealing with "low lying fruit", first:
Let's get some publicity, articles.. ads etc publicizing a simple, logical truism:
1) No Rov or Bais Din can issue a Psak affecting the rights of any party in issues of בין אדם לחבירו without A) hearing both בעלי דין when they are both present together and B) without seriously attempting to ascertain the facts, unless the Baalei Din are מקבל קנין of their free will for a פשרה that states otherwise.
2) Any Baal Din has a right to ask מהיכן דנתני, where he feels an issue of bias may crop up.
3) Any Baal Din has a right to record the proceedings of Bais Din, where he feels there is an issue of bias.
Even if we assume that Epstein/Walmark can explain away lots of things: They care for עגונות; as Rabbi's they feel entitled to the opinion that גט מעושה is okay in the cases they dealt with; they took money because they have families to support...
....Perhaps the most blatant travesty in the saga is the lack of due diligence on their part: Namely, the fact that they never heard "the other side of the story". After all, there are ALWAYS two sides to every story!
How can Epstein/Walmark claim entitlement to the opinion that גט מעושה is okay in the cases they dealt with IF THEY OBVIOUSLY NEVER MET THE FICTITIOUS HUSBAND?
I think most of Kllal Yisroel - across the board - could empathize with these arguments.
I think that if we stay focused on things that most of Kllal Yisroel CAN agree with, we'll BS"D accomplish MUCH more..
Maybe afterwards - once people are warmed up - you'll BS"D have support going forward....
I'm imagining that the identifying the "products" of these Gittin would require some sort of registry run by people that have the Gedolim's CLEAR stamp of approval.
That's a tough call, because as the author states, Sincere Batei Dinim are afraid to come out in the open against the Rabbanut, because they need the Rabbanut's אישור on Gittin.
How about dealing with "low lying fruit", first:
Let's get some publicity, articles.. ads etc publicizing a simple, logical truism:
1) No Rov or Bais Din can issue a Psak affecting the rights of any party in issues of בין אדם לחבירו without A) hearing both בעלי דין when they are both present together and B) without seriously attempting to ascertain the facts, unless the Baalei Din are מקבל קנין of their free will for a פשרה that states otherwise.
2) Any Baal Din has a right to ask מהיכן דנתני, where he feels an issue of bias may crop up.
3) Any Baal Din has a right to record the proceedings of Bais Din, where he feels there is an issue of bias.
Even if we assume that Epstein/Walmark can explain away lots of things: They care for עגונות; as Rabbi's they feel entitled to the opinion that גט מעושה is okay in the cases they dealt with; they took money because they have families to support...
....Perhaps the most blatant travesty in the saga is the lack of due diligence on their part: Namely, the fact that they never heard "the other side of the story". After all, there are ALWAYS two sides to every story!
How can Epstein/Walmark claim entitlement to the opinion that גט מעושה is okay in the cases they dealt with IF THEY OBVIOUSLY NEVER MET THE FICTITIOUS HUSBAND?
I think most of Kllal Yisroel - across the board - could empathize with these arguments.
I think that if we stay focused on things that most of Kllal Yisroel CAN agree with, we'll BS"D accomplish MUCH more..
Maybe afterwards - once people are warmed up - you'll BS"D have support going forward....









