This is the purported response of the Ezekiel 8 group to a post on Mekubal's Blog "
Apologies are in order":
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B'ezrat Hashem Yitbarach
Ezekiel 8 : Groups 12/13
Official Response
HaMekubal, your analysis is so factually baseless/mistaken it's almost an EJF-Tropper advertisement.
You seem like a an honest enough fellow; where do you get your rumours from that mislead you into this kind of blatant foolishness?
Let us point out some of the major fallacies you suffer and promulgate, in the hope that you will correct yourself promptly:
To be clear the conversion was done against Israeli Law, and against the stance of the Rabbinate.
You say this, what is your proof, do you
know that that the Israeli CR didn't authorise this in advance?
For the record, this BD was authorised in advance by the Israeli CR.
This Gadol stated clearly that if the tapes were true...
This Gadol obviously has some tremendous problems with
Choshen Mishpat; if you/he can prove that he is privvy to
ALL of the evidence, that still doesn't mean his conclusion is right, his opinion is worth no more and no less than any other uninvolved bystander. At best, he certainly was not able to see/hear all of the evidence here, "chachamim, hizharu b'dvarechem", v'hamevin yavin.
It appears that despite professional authentication of the audios and videos that they simply cannot be relied upon
These kind of statements are non-sequitors, you state something as a fact, then you draw a concrete verdict from it, with no basis. Even you "hedge", saying: "It appears", without explicity acknowledging that what "appears" is not neccessarily what
is.
She was accused of ... allowing a surveilance[sic] team to set up cameras in her hotel room(on more than one occaision[sic]) to video her having illicit relations with a man and his wife.
1) Who "accused"? Why "accuse" someone of defending themselves? As it is, obviously many victims of erevRabbanim misLeaders have a difficult enough time believing hard evidence and hard facts, and it's also clear the "pilpul" dance of "make it go away" is really in full swing now.
Read and comprehend, please. She is NOT the only victim, she IS the only victim who has "gone public" (so far).
We are the surveillance team, and she and "her" hotel room wasn't the only persons or places involved, R"L.
What is more Rabbis who have recieved the full packet of evidence state that there are multiple videos of her also having relations with other men.
We repeat -
THERE ARE MULTIPLE VIDEOS/AUDIOS OF TROPPER INVOLVED WITH WOMEN AND MEN (CANDIDATES FOR GIYUR, MARRIED AND UNMARRIED, AND OTHERS) WHO ARE NOT HIS WIFE, don't keep insisting that Rahel is the
only victim, she is the only victim who has "gone public".
She also stands accused of taking money from an enemy of Tropper to make these recordings and videos. With verifiable email evidence to back those claims.
Again, you slander a victim. She herself admits part of the control exercised by
Tropper was
him paying her for participating in realising his perverse fantasies and fetishes, and let's not forget his worthless promises to help speed her "geirus"...
WE can verify beyond any doubt that she received no money from anyone, least of all "an enemy of Tropper", for any of her righteous actions in exposing EJF-Tropper criminal and immoral misdeeds. After all, we admit to taking any neccessary action in this matter at our own expense and initiative (and there is far more to this matter than the EJF-Tropper issues).
Make no mistake, this geirus is not recognized...
You make no mistake, siyag l'chochma - shtika.
bobX@anonymousspeech.com