Sunday, April 11, 2021

Rav Gestetner against International Beis Din


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  1. No surprise

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  2. I looked up
    https://www.internationalbeitdin.org/
    “The focus of our deliberation centers upon the wife’s argument regarding her husband’s refusal to engage in conjugal relations. In her presentation to this panel, she claims that her husband was incapable of ejaculation, generally there existed no intimate relations between her husband and at the end of the day, the husband desired to engage in anal sex and nothing else.”
    IsraelReader, Honesty, etc this is good case for retroactive annulment, in my humble opinion.
    Looks to me they’re serious and kosher. What a list of possible cases for retroactive annulment:
    Adultery and AIDS, Apostasy and Deception, Criminal, Deception Regarding Sickness, Epilepsy and Deception, Homosexuality, Impotence, Imprisonment, Physical abuse which is life threatening.
    Compare this to ORA’s website or to Susan’s --- no comparison. Yes, I’m prejudiced. I have an interest --- to win in the NYS Ct of Appeals and in SCOTUS. Oh, SCOTUS told me yesterday my substance is ok. I just need to follow their format…on how to write cover, table of contents, questions presented etc. I did and sent it today. SCOTUS told me it’s OK if I have a NYS Ct of Appeals motion number 1140 12/10/2018 at the same time. No problem. Good.
    I agree with “We consider the life of a woman held in marital captivity to be of infinite value, and we spare no effort to rescue her.” Beautiful.

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  3. fedupwithcorruptrabbisNovember 28, 2018 at 7:10 AM

    Rabbi Ciner is now denying that he gave a heter to remarry. I would say to that ;"Put that in writing" so the world could see if your statements are true. We saw the same scenario play out in the Kamenetsky fiasco, where he admitted that R. D. Feinstein declared Tamar an Eshet Ish and still Aharon Friedman's wife, but R. Kamenetsky would not put that ruling in writing. So because rabbis dont put things in writing, we continue to see major breaches in Halocho continuing. I surmise that mamzeralert.blogspot.com will be seeing many more names added.

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  4. Who says you can publicize mamzerim?

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  5. fedupwithcorruptrabbisNovember 28, 2018 at 3:31 PM

    i didnt say that I would publicize them, but the mamzeralert website would. Have you also asked who gave ORA the right to publicize mens names? The answer is that the same rabbis who hold that you must publicize men's names also know that the Torah holds that ordinary Jews are prohibited from marrying mamzeirim, and therefore are happy to see a registry of these potential mamzeirim so their grandchildren wont "accidently" marry one of these questionable mamzeirim.!

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  6. fedupwithcorruptrabbisNovember 28, 2018 at 3:44 PM

    Also I want to quote a Ramo in Yoreh Deah 265 SEIF 4 , " He states that you publicize at the time of the BRIS that this child is a Mamzer. His source is the Mharil. Also see Ramo in Even Haezer
    siman 2 seif 5.

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  7. I ask myself why is Kalonymus Anonymus and Yehoshua teasing me when I mention my NYS Court travesty of justice.
    See http://mamzeralert.blogspot.com/
    “It seems that Mrs. Esther Chana Weiss, wife of Mr. Klonimus Kalman Yehoshua Weiss who resided in Monroe, New York has betrayed both her husband and the bais din that issued her a get. She falsely promised not to litigate in the civil courts after the issuance of her get, and then proceeded to breach that very agreement by immediately approaching the civil courts. This has caused her get to become INVALIDATED by the very bais din that issued it. See the letters attached above. But she didn't stop there. Mrs. Weiss then went ahead and defied the Torah by entering into an adulterous relationship, according to Torah standards, with Mr. Moshe Hirsh Farber from Montreal, Quebec. It was therefore announced by two bais dins (see letters) that this new relationship is adulterous, and any future offspring stemming from their union will be considered mamzeirim. Mrs. Weiss will require a new get from her husband Mr. Klonimus Kalman Weiss prior to remarriage.”
    Thank you fedupwithcorruptrabbis saying: “Rabbi Ciner is now denying that he gave a heter to remarry. I would say to that ;"Put that in writing" so the world could see if your statements are true. We saw the same scenario play out in the Kamenetsky fiasco, where he admitted that R. D. Feinstein declared Tamar an Eshet Ish and still Aharon Friedman's wife, but R. Kamenetsky would not put that ruling in writing.”
    What’s the latest on the Kamenetsky fiasco?

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  8. Lol, very funny. It's not me. Haha.

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  9. I am not teasing you. I am requesting, to no avail, that you take your obsession with your ex-wife and keep it between you, your lawyer, her, and the courts. Nobody here is interested in the minutia of your divorce court hearings and filings.

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  10. No names added since 2016?

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  11. fedupwithcorruptrabbisNovember 29, 2018 at 5:31 AM

    DT , I placed before 2 comments containing sources for Klonymus but you didnt post them?
    edupwithcorruptrabbis Kalonymus Anonymus 14 hours ago
    Pending
    Also I want to quote a Ramo in Yoreh Deah 265 SEIF 4 , " He states that you publicize at the time of the BRIS that this child is a Mamzer. His source is the Mharil. Also see Ramo in Even Haezer
    siman 2 seif 5.


    fedupwithcorruptrabbis Kalonymus Anonymus 14 hours ago
    Pending
    i didnt say that I would publicize them, but the mamzeralert website would. Have you also asked who gave ORA the right to publicize mens names? The answer is that the same rabbis who hold that you must publicize men's names also know that the Torah holds that ordinary Jews are prohibited from marrying mamzeirim, and therefore are happy to see a registry of these potential mamzeirim so their grandchildren wont "accidently" marry one of these questionable mamzeirim.!

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  12. Yehoshua says”I am not teasing you. I am requesting, to no avail, that you take your obsession with your ex-wife and keep it between you, your lawyer, her, and the courts. Nobody here is interested in the minutia of your divorce court hearings and filings.” Kalonymus Anonymus says “Lol, very funny. It's not me. Haha.”
    Truth is I have no lawyer and Susan and the courts ignore me. May I tell you my theory on the parsha וישב.
    King David was anointed king in 1 Samuel 16. “So they sent and brought him. He was ruddy-cheeked, bright-eyed, and handsome. And the Lord said, Rise and anoint him, for this is the one” (1 Samuel 16:12). When David proposed to fight Goliath he said to King Saul: “David replied to Saul, Your servant has been tending his father’s sheep, and if a lion or a bear came and carried off an animal from the flock, I would go after it and fight it and rescue it from its mouth. And if it attacked me, I would seize it by the beard and strike it down and kill it. Your servant has killed both lion and bear; and that uncircumcised Philistine shall end up like one of them, for he has defied the ranks of the living God. The Lord,” David went on, who saved me from lion and bear will also save me from that Philistine. Then go, Saul said to David, and may the Lord be with you!” (1 Samuel 17:34-37).
    G-d promised Jacob Israel… Much after Jacob said to Laban: “These twenty years I have spent in your service, your ewes and she-goats never miscarried, nor did I feast on rams from your flock. That which was torn by beasts I never brought to you; I myself made good the loss; you exacted it of me, whether snatched by day or snatched by night. Often [lit. I was], scorching heat ravaged me by day and frost by night; and sleep fled from my eyes” (Genesis 31:38-40).


    when he said to King Saul… Jacob was the promised Israel when Jacob said to Laban… My theory is that Joseph sought the honor of being the chosen of Jacob… Joseph’s brothers knew this and hated him for that…
    My theory is that Joseph sought being the chosen of Jacob… Joseph’s brothers knew this and hated him for that… Jacob did choose Joseph… This explains parshat וישב:
    “Now Jacob was settled in the land where his father had sojourned, the land of Canaan. This, then, is the line of Jacob: At seventeen years of age, Joseph tended the flocks with his brothers, as a helper to the sons of his father’s wives Bilhah and Zilpah. And Joseph brought bad reports of them to their father. Now Israel loved Joseph best of all his sons, for he was the child of his old age; and he had made him an ornamented tunic. And when his brothers saw that their father loved him more than any of his brothers, they hated,so that they could not speak a friendly word to him” (Genesis 37:1-4).
    Actually Judah is the chosen of Jacob. First will come משיח בן יוסף then משיח בן דוד. Follow, Eddie, Berel, Yehoshua, IsraelReader…? Oh, please buy tomorrow Jerusalem Post. I’m the last article in a magazine section with my photo. Yes, I praise Donald Trump for all to see.

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  13. i have approved all your comments that i received

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  14. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6hjfSG3qJQ

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  15. Motti elon - feigele - https://www.maariv.co.il/news/law/Article-673912

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  16. The adulterous couple in this case, have produced a Mamzer.
    I know this from a first hand source, and it has also been publicized here:
    http://mamzeralert.blogspot.com/2019/08/menachem-mendel-feller-declared.html


    Menachem Mendel Feller Declared a 'Definite Mamzer' by the Bais Din


    We at Mamzer Alert hereby make it known that Menachem Mendel Feller, a son born recently to Atara Michal Kreindler (nee Simkowitz) is a 'definite mamzer' who is forbidden to marry any Jewess who isn't also a mamzer. This status was pronounced in a letter put out by the Bes Din of the Central Rabbinical Congress of the United States and Canada. This tragic situation unfolded as a result of Mrs. Kreindler marrying someone else while she was still married to her husband Simcha Moshe Kreindler without receiving from him a get. We take note of the boy's lofty name which is a homage to greatness, and we sincerely hope that this token will help him overcome the almost insurmountable burden his mother has selfishly placed upon him from birth through no fault of his own. May this be the last totally unnecessary and preventable tragedy to occur due to the trampling upon the laws of the Torah by cynical individuals.

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  17. "Rav Gestetner against International Beis Din"

    It is like saying " ayatollah Khameini against the State of Israel"

    Or "senator McCarthy against communism"

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  18. So for your own mamzer friends you preferred not to talk about them, but these you are quite happy to publicize.

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  19. Proud Conservative MomApril 12, 2021 at 2:22 AM

    This is so very tragic.

    "May this be the last totally unnecessary and preventable tragedy to occur, due to the trampling upon the laws of the Torah by cynical individuals."

    Amen and Amen!!

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  20. There's a difference between a ממזר ידוע, and a ממזר שאינו ידוע.

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  21. Proud Conservative MomApril 12, 2021 at 6:46 PM

    How are they treated differently via Halacha?

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