President-elect Donald Trump says he will move immediately to deport or imprison two million, maybe three million, unauthorized-immigrant criminals. “What we are going to do is get the people that are criminal and have criminal records, gang members, drug dealers,” he said on Sunday on “60 Minutes.”
Like many of his proposals, this one sounds tough and straightforward, but makes no sense under scrutiny and is frightening to think about.
Start with the fact that the target number is made up. There simply aren’t as many criminal immigrants as he imagines. According to rough estimates by the Migration Policy Institute, of the country’s 11 million unauthorized immigrants, about 820,000 have criminal records. About 300,000 of those have felony convictions and are presumably the bad people Mr. Trump is talking about. If he deports those and only those, it will be a remarkable display of law-enforcement discretion, since he said that there were lots of “terrific people” among the unauthorized who might be allowed to stay, “after the border is secured and after everything gets normalized.”
And yet he also said that two million to three million would go, a population about the size of Chicago’s. He would have to haul away a lot of terrific people, and terrorize many more, to hit that mark. This would require a vast conscription of state and local law enforcement against people who pose no threat. It would mean a surge in home and workplace raids, investigations and traffic stops.
It took the Obama administration eight years to deport 2.5 million immigrants. The threat of Mr. Trump chasing that number right off the bat is the reason immigrant communities are so terrified. But the damage won’t be immediate: He can’t just load two million people onto buses and planes and ship them out. He’ll first have to stuff them into the bottleneck of the immigration courts, where there are too few judges and lawyers for a swollen caseload, and fill detention cells to bursting. Mr. Trump may be unaware of due process, or in denial about it, but it exists.
All the while he would be snatching workers from their jobs, workers who keep the economy humming. Then there is the policing problem — indiscriminate roundups in immigrant communities cause crime victims to fear and avoid the police, and crime to fester.
We’ve been down this ugly path before. Arizona followed it for years under Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, a Trump ally who broke the law, abused civil rights and neglected other law-enforcement duties. It took years of struggle by human rights advocates, in the streets and the courts, but voters finally ousted Sheriff Arpaio in this month’s election.
How can the country resist if Mr. Trump tries to nationalize the Arizona model with mass deportation?
Much of the response will have to be local. The list of cities where leaders and police officials have vowed not to participate in a Trump dragnet is long and growing. Immigration is a federal responsibility, they say, and they will not waste policing resources, money or time on a destructive plan that won’t work. “That is not our job, nor will I make it our job,” said the Los Angeles police chief, Charlie Beck. Mayor Bill de Blasio of New York struck the right note: “We are not going to sacrifice a half-million people who live amongst us, who are part of our communities.”
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Mr. Trump and his Republican allies in Congress have threatened to cut off federal funding to immigrant-friendly “sanctuary cities” like San Francisco, Chicago and New York. It’s unclear what budgetary pain they can cause. But we can only hope that these places stand firm at a time when cherished American ideals are under siege.
Lies Lies Lies!
ReplyDeleteHe clearly said the he would be deporting only those with criminal records. So anyone without a criminal record won't be targeted. If his numbers are wrong, then that's the complaint they should be making, and that only. The complaint is 'Mr. Trump has exaggerated about his plan' But to say that won;t upset people because that's normal so they lie. Everybody understands that a policy which clearly refers to criminals will not be able to include people who aren't criminals. So the entire discussion about the determent of such huge deportations is an irrelevant deception.
please read the article again.you clearly missed the point.
ReplyDeleteIt deals with how he will be able to implement his plan.
The issue is not whether it would be nice to be able to deport the criminals.
Wrong!
ReplyDelete(That's a rebuttal I learned from someone recently.)
Nope! try again
ReplyDeleteThe article quotes the number of those with criminal records. A lot more of the illegal immigrants can be presumed to be criminals. Mr. Trump's estimation that three to four times those with records are criminals seems reasonable. Likely that many non-criminals will be caught in the dragnet. Sort of how civilians die in war as so-called collateral damage.
ReplyDeleteBut really, if we consider it, communities have some obligation to self-police. The immigrant communities had decades to set moral standards that would exclude participation of illegal immigrants in their communities. They did not set such standards. Thus they share some level of culpability.
Yes, the NYT is against Trump, against his immigration stance, and skeptical of anytihing he says, does or thinks. What else is news.
ReplyDeleteOnly a week after Donald Trump’s election victory, the same pundits who
ReplyDeletesaid he could never win are making it sound like his presidency has
already failed.
Exactly.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/11/17/donald-trump-bill-clinton-ronald-reagan-james-robbins/93982954/
http://www.wsj.com/articles/michael-flynn-offered-role-as-donald-trumps-national-security-adviser-1479442042
ReplyDeleteGreat pick for NSA. Someone who really gets the Muslim threat. One of the main reasons I voted for Trump.
Keeping campaign promises.
Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said he believes Donald Trump is a
ReplyDeleteleader in whom he can have great confidence after meeting with the
president-elect Thursday.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/japan-pm-ny-1st-meeting-foreign-leader-trump-43608562?cid=abcn_tco
Good idea. Deport half the city of Chicago, instead.
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