https://www.newsweek.com/only-48-percent-americans-trust-donald-trump-handle-coronavirus-crisis-poll-says-1492397
When asked who they carried the most confidence in to handle the
spread of COVID-19, the respiratory illness caused by the new
coronavirus, respondents put most confidence in their respective state
government at 75 percent. Of those answers, 53 percent indicated a
'fair' amount of confidence; 22 percent a 'great deal of confidence'; 15
percent with 'not very much'; and 8 percent with none.
In
comparison, those surveyed expressed 62 percent confidence in the
federal government's response, while 48 percent were confident in
Trump's response. For Trump, 35 percent said they have no confidence in
his response to the pandemic; 25 percent said a great deal of
confidence; 23 percent a fair amount; and 15 percent no confidence.
For
the federal government, 62 percent said they felt a great or fair
amount while 36 percent said 'not much' or no confidence in responses
from Congress and federal agencies.
What a remarkable coincidence. The same percentage that said he should be impeached also don't have confidence in his response to wuhan virus. What are the chances? *eye-roll
ReplyDeleteare they the same people?
ReplyDeletedo you have confidence?in Trump's leadership regarding the virus?
Confidence in whom ? Its a Government created virus!
ReplyDeletewho told you that? Your autistic savant boy? or did you use some letter skipping ?
ReplyDeleteA-HOY MA LECHO NIRDAM? !!!
ReplyDeleteWe are all in this together. It is a matter of life and death, no time for bickering under disguise of politics. High time for the democrats to suck it up. They lost in the elections and so be it! Let the President do his job without interference by trying to tear him down. The President is only as good as his advisors are, and he Does have the Best of the Best, money can buy. If you don't believe me, ask Alan Dershowits. Should anyone think they can do better, let them make a repository to submit any ideas how to save the world from this pandemic or for any of the entailed bottle-necks in the process of health recovery.
Since it is in the times of doing bedikas chametz, it is wise to look into *me hechori veaf haze* veal me ovdo ho'oretz. When first the mushchosim came out of the closet and marched to gain for their so called Rights, ironically they chose the rainbow colors aka as the symbol reminder of the Dor Hamabul, HIV came swiftly along.to place them back into the closet. Then came along all the degenerates of minim miminim shoinim for their own rights, coming out of the woodworks banding together all over the world, and forcing all the straights to acknowledge and approve of their lifestyle. Shomu Shamayim! Hashem responded with Koro-na A-veiros and this pandemic is spreading all over the world like wildfire, ve'eino mavchin bein tov lara. When the warning shots came across the bow with e.g. floods, forest wild fires of Biblical proportions, earthquakes, Hurricanes, Volcanoes, eish vegofrit veruach zilafot , veanshei Sdom roi'im vachatoim la-H' meod- did not wake them up, Me osso HKB'H Koro-na came along, without Borders. Halo dovor hu! This is a wake up call for KOL Habri'im all over the Globe without exceptions. Such has never happened, veafilu bimei Yoel lo hoyu. This scenario is crystal clear and needs no interpretation.
Sefer Yona...
... Vayikrav eilov Rav Hachovel vayomer lo, Ma lecho nirdam ? Kum koro-na- el Elokecho ulay... yerachem
Hashem sent Yona ben Amitay to NINVEH,* uKoro -Na- oleho *, ki olso ro'osam lefonoy. Vayizaki ish el elokov... vayomer lo "HOY"!
Ma lecho nirdom??? Kum *Koro-Na* el Elokecho... velo noved!
Vayikreu el hoElokim bechozko veyoshuvu ish midarko horo'o umin hechomos asher bekapeihem.....
Hashem said...
Va'ani lo ochus al ninveh hoi'ir hagdoilo asher yesh bah harbe misheva * Billion * odom asher lo yoda bein yemino lismolo uvhemo rabo!!!
this is a joke?
ReplyDeleteTrump can do no wrong - don't blame Trump for anything and no criticism since he is not responsible for his actions or words
no politics but the Democrats are evil! and only they can be criticized in the name of unity!?
typical trump supporter response!
Reminiscent of the time Hashem ordered a “yitush” organism to invade the brain of the wicked Titus, after he had blasphemed against Hashem (Gittin 56b); in our days too, Hashem has unleashed a tiny creature, a virus, which modern mankind, with all its arrogance about the superior medical knowledge we think that we possess, is helpless in preventing its spread.
ReplyDeleteאין לנו להישען אלא על אבינו שבשמים
Corona is related to the word "crown".
Hashem's ultimate goal is that mankind should recognize His sovereignty. This should be a wake up call, to recognize that Hashem is in charge of the world, and that all of mankind, Jews and non-Jews alike, must obey His rules, as spelled out in the Torah.
ויתנו לך כתר מלוכה.
Thank you, Right on! As you say this is a *wake up call for ALL of Humanity!!!*
ReplyDeleteSo did the president proclaim for everybody to PRAY
Lo arod memis, elo hachet memis. The best medicine the Rabonim can contribute in these dire times is to proclaim worldwide a Yom Tefila for ALL of Humanity, Ma lecho nirdam??? "KUM KRO - NA EL HASHEM ELOKECHO". Halo heim ksuvim besefer Yonah ben Amitay.
Vayispallel el H', Vateotzer haMageifo, KI ANI HASHEM ROFECHO!!!
These are dire and trying times, "Memshelet Chirum". Eis tzoro hi leYaakov vechol haolam kulo. No place for criticism, politics or bickering. Everyone should unite and pull the rope in the same direction to overcome. Should anyone have constructive suggestions, bevakasha, by all means do so.
ReplyDeleteNo, the President is not responsible for all the calamities befalling, whether here in the US, or all over the world. I firmly believe, that President happens to be on the right side of the equation, doing the best possible anyone can do, having the best advisors available under the sun. Lev melachim vessarim beyad Hashem, and he was chosen by divine selection to be in the position he is, VaH' ito. Amen
"this is one of the reasons that Hashem unleashed a tiny organism, a
ReplyDeletevirus, which modern mankind, with all its arrogance about the superior
medical knowledge we think that we possess, is helpless in preventing
its spread."
This is actually nothing new, plagues have occurred in the past, we just didn't know at the time, what is a virus or bacteria etc.
The difference is that the lead tim e to devleoping treatments is shortening. It is shortening precisely because of the advance of scince.
Look at the previous terrible AIDS virus , which of course was a punishment for mishkav zachar. it took 20 years of Research and development to effectively limit its lethality. This time, they are talking about months or 1 year before vaccines are available.
So the idea of "arrogance" about science is totally off the mark. It is not arrogance, it is justifiable pride.
BTW, so far, in Israel, not a single person has died from the virus. Again, some might mock me for saying it is a miracle, and unfortunately it is no gurantee that everyone there will be safe - we cannot rely on miracles. And, if we cannto rely on miracles, it means we have todo our own hishtadlus - which is the opposite of , "yeshiva thinking".
Be well, and healthy!
Developing a vaccine is a permitted endeavor, as the Torah allows us to seek appropriate medical treatment (Shemos 21:19, Bava Kamma 85a).
ReplyDeleteThere may also be justifiable pride in being able to make medical breakthroughs. However a step away from this “justifiable pride” is the arrogance of man, who thinks that modern medicine is all powerful, and that we can control our own destinies. If Hashem sends a virus, no worries, we’ll soon have a vaccine to take care of it. That attitude causes man to miss the message which Hashem is trying to send us by sending these illnesses.
Shlomo Hamelech and his descendants were in possession of a “Sefer Re’fuos”. We find in the Talmud (Brachos 10b) that when Chizkiyahu became king, he made the decision to conceal it, because he believed that it was detrimental for the Jewish nation to have access to it, and the Torah sages of his day approved of his action. What was the problem of having access to such a fantastic work? Rashi (Pesachim 56a) explains, that he hid it because their hearts were not humbled over their illness but were, rather, healed immediately. Also, because they had access to this book, they neglected to pray to Hashem (Rashi, Brachos ibid.).
In other words, people weren’t taking the illness as a stimulus to do Teshuva, rather they would immediately look up the cure, and miss the divinely-sent message which was intended to be internalized by the reality of the illness.
In our days, when we have superior medical knowledge, we must also remember not to fall into the pitfall of having a quasi “Sefer Re’fuos” at our disposal.
Interesting - I am not arging with you on the bigger picture - my parshanut on the matter takes a different angle.
ReplyDeleteThere is some chaos, the virus develops and spreads almost randomly. Tragically, even frum Jews have got it and passed away. However, it is also a makkah, it is hitting Iran - the modern day Haman/and PHaroah picking off their leaders one by one. It is also taking its toll on Rome, the vestige of the evil empire which destoyed the Beit Hamikdash.
So far, B'H, in Eretz Israel, not a single person has died from it. Of course, I have no view of the future, so I cannot say what will happen (The Lubavitcher rebbe did however, say that nobody would be harmed by saddam's scud missiles, before he fired them). However, on our side, under the sun, I disagree with you. "the arrogance of man, who thinks that modern medicine is all powerful, and that we can control our own destinies." this may be true for some rashaim who enter the field of medicine, in fact it is true, whichever field they enter, even the rabbanut). However, for pure and applied science, I think you may misinterpret what the belief is.
When there were plagues in Europe, and half the population died, they did not understand what the disease was, and had no effective tretment. Centuries later, vaccines were developed for things like smallpox, measles etc which kill. But there are other diseases we don't yet have a grip on. When Kennedy declared a "war on cancer" it was a long 50 year war, and even today the disease is not eliminated, although there are developments which increase survival rates.
Is the war on cancer "arrogance"? I don't think so. there is now a similar "war" on Alzheimers, which is probably the hardest disease of all.
I am going to bring one of my "phantom" sources again, since I don't know the exact pasuk - but one of the Neviim speaks about how Israel no longer relies on G-d to get well, but they go to doctors! But we don't have neviim anymore, so even if it was wrong then, it is a mitzvah today.
This will also pass. Remember , other diseases, AIDS, Hepatitis etc have killed millions, which is much more than this is likely to do. AIDS wa seen by religious folk as punishment for immoral behaviour of the mainstream (feigele) victims. This current disease came from a people who eat every sheretz and every neveilah they can find, - bats, snakes, etc.
Biotech Observer will most likely support my argument - the rate of development of vaccines and new medicines is faster in many ways. Now, i did my Master's on this subject, so I can discuss at length how new drug development is changing - it may be more expnsive, but it is not running out of ideas.
"That attitude causes man to miss the message which Hashem is trying to send us by sending these illnesses."
ReplyDeleteYou seem to have a high degree of certainty about what Hashem is communicating to us.
My beef was not with the Doctors developing refuos to the maka. Here are the dynamics of Hashem's ways. He first sends a Noach ish Tzadik to remind the people ki hishchis kol bossor and to do Tshuvah. When they refuse to listen, he first sends nigei batim. Next comes Tzoraas on the body of person. We first had these mushchosim declaring *Pride* marching all over the place, Hashem sent them right back to the closets where they came from. Nothing wrong with developing medicine. It is the *mushchosim* that defy Hashem with Chutzpah by using the symbol of Keshet in unification, while Hashem is signaling the message that they are worthy of Kloyo like the Dor Hamabul. In recent years they became even more arrogant like the Dor Haflaga, "hava nilbeno levenim to wage war with Kivyachol K'B'H, so they used up almost all of the alphabets in unison under one umbrella R"L to be mored Shamayim. There were those that came up with heterim to teach Tashbar about derech hamushchosim lifestyle in exchange for $hochad yeaver r'l' SHOMU SHAMAYIM! Venismale sa'assa veolo al gedoisov! Im boarozim noflo shalheves, ma yomru ezoivei kir, uma yomru haGoyim, uma yomru haYidden?
ReplyDeleteThis is a wakeup call for a Yom Tfila Olomis and start lemashmesh ulefahsfesh bemaasov, teaching derech Hashem, Stopping milchemes achim r'l, stopping Messira from the highest levels as well as molo'o ho'oretz chomos, if you think you can gonev daas elyon, think again, stop giving haven for the child molesters bearei halviyim, because cherev bo leolam and can get somebody beheaded, ve'ein somchin al haness, stop being matir eishes ish lashuk for $hochad or for nepotism and you know the rest of the story. Bou mayim ad nofesh, mibachutz teshakel cherev ubachadorim eimo, time to doTsuvah Vayizaku el H' batzar lohem, mimtzukosehem yatzilem, uvo letzion goel. Amen
We must remember why King Chizkiyahu concealed the “Sefer Re’fuos”, and the lesson for us not to fall into the pitfall of having a quasi “Sefer Re’fuos” at our disposal.
ReplyDeleteIf G-d wanted us to fly, he would have given us the technology to build aeroplanes.
ReplyDeleteEach person has differnt take on "why " this is happening. It is interesting that the Iranian oppressor regime is being hit very badly, and lehavdil in Israel, not a single fatality has occurred yet, B'H.
So maybe this specific magefah is not about de haan Pride parade? Maybe it is about people falsifying Rav Elyashiv's teshuvot? Or employers not paying their workers on time? (which is assur d'oraita, but rarely mentioned by rabbonim).
There are now more and more new drug candidates coming up to treat the illness - so nothing wrong or arrogant about that, B'H.
In his times, we had neviim, a Temple, and had other routes to G-d nto available to us today.
ReplyDeleteIf you want to conceal such a "sefer" it is you own crazy choice, but I DOUBT YOU will be throwing away any medicines from your cabinet.
Did you mean Rofei Elil Iyov 42
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, you're putting words into my mouth.
ReplyDeleteI didn't advocate concealing the “Sefer Re’fuos”, nor did I speak against benefiting from medical advancements.
I merely reiterated that we must remember why King Chizkiyahu concealed the “Sefer Re’fuos”, and its lesson for us. Rashi (Pesachim 56a) explains, that he hid it because their hearts were not humbled over their illness but were, rather, healed immediately. Also, because they had access to this book, they neglected to pray to Hashem (Rashi, Brachos 10b).
Rashi's ideas would be relevant even if we had prophets to guide us, and the holy Temple. When G-d forbid, we're confronted with illness, we need to use the experience to be humbled before G-d, and to use this as a reminder to repent and pray to Him for forgiveness and healing.
If you are citing Rashi on this gemara, then you are advocating his understanding and the King's actions.
ReplyDeleteEven without this current plague, eg for a headache, would you take a painkiller, or daven for a cure? The gemara rashi you bring suggests taking an aspirin is arrogant, but davening is the true cure.
Show me in Halacha what you are prescribing.
I do not claim to have direct connection to know daas elyon, but sechel hayoshor dictates that there is definitely a worldly message over here and Hashem wants us to know. From past experience we gathered that Hashem brings calmaties of Biblical proportions such as the Mabul, Dor Haflagah, Sdom Va'amorrah etc. on issues with a common denominator. Ki hishchis kol bossor = androlomisya , ve lo nechtam elo al hagezel = moloh ho'oretz chommos e.g. Ninveh al chomos asher bekapehem. It is in Mitzvas bnei Noach not to violate.
ReplyDeleteWe have all the ingredients here in the pot ready to boil over. The Chinese committed chomos from all over the world, they steal the technology, took away all the Yiddishe Parnosos, only to compete with us unfairly by abusing their workers working them to death, paying them dirt. Then we have these self proclaimed -Mushchosim Rights- neged Elokim vaEnoshut. When they got hit with AIDS, they still continued only turning to worse. So much so, that they leveraged Countries and Governments to enforce anti-discrimination laws of which at the end of the day, it infiltrated into Judaism Orthodoxy to comply through Stick and carrot. Hashem, however said *Hoyo lo sihye* vatirgaz ho'oretz. Therefore, China hisschil bePuroniyos tchila, and androlomisya eino mavchin bein tov lora, vekivan sheniten reshus lemashchis everyone is in the cross hairs. Hashem sent Yonah to Ninveh so that they should repent, and they did, therefore they were spared. My take is, that these are the chatoim upshoim most prevalent and most severe in today's times, it is Thus what prompts to ask 'me hachori veaf hazeh'. We have to do Tshuva, the TORAH is NOT for sale, we must make a Kiddush Hashem by rejecting the $hochad, along with kol ir vair, mishpacha umishpacha al pnei kol yoshvei tevel as they told Yonah, MA LECHO NIRDAM, KUM KORO-NA EL ELOKECHA!!! Vaz shokto ho'oretz
This is what I gather from this Matzav. However, kepatish yefotzetz sela, veshivim ponim. Tze ure'eh ma medaber umosei.
We have to do teshuva for feigleh or Chinese eaters of neveilah? It doesn't work that way.
ReplyDeleteThsi could be punishment, eg for Iran, who is threatening Israel. It could be Ikvot of Moshiach. Or it could just be a statistical aberration - a random mutation of a virus which happens once a century.
I'm willing to hear your take on the message that Hashem might be trying to send us via these illnesses.
ReplyDeleteNo comparison. Taking an aspirin merely alleviates the symptoms, but it doesn't cure cause of the headache.
ReplyDeleteThus you aren't employing anything near the legendary “Sefer Re’fuos”.
That there is a message on one hand, and that we need to take the most science based approach on the other are not necessarily contradictory.
ReplyDeleteIt also depends on how we see Hashgacha. I believe Rambam and Ralbag had very "rationalistic" views on these matters and that G-d doesn't intervene in random events. However, it could be seen as the kind Plague that hit Egypt, except this time it is Iran which is worst off. and Italy (the vestige of the evil Rome).
Iran is breaking its pride, is freeing political prisoners, and even pardoning them. will the continued plague cause them to harden their heart or to break their arrogance and pride?
In Israel, there has not yet, been a single fatality, which is miraculous. Population in Iran is 10x that of Israel, they have had approx 1100 deaths, although it is estimated this could be a much higher figure.
Is it going to change anything? Did AIDS change gay pride? No, it just made gay more proud, and now its a "crime" to discriminate or insult them. why should this virus change it?
Again, it is speculation, I am not a Navi, but we can look for patterns but that is not certainty,
how do you know? Do you have a PDF of the Sefer?
ReplyDeleteI think that is the phrase, can you give me exact verse, i didn't see it in Iyov 42 just now
ReplyDeleteI found the prescription in Talmud. Chosh berosho, ya'asok baTorah. BTW, HKBH' misaveh litfiloson shel Tzadikim, when they don't have children, Hashem want's to be mispallel. See Yitzchak veRivka. Tefila osseh mechtza. Ailments and Tfila are closely related.
ReplyDeleteKH: "Or it could just be a statistical aberration - a random mutation of a virus which happens once a century."
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הלכה א
מצות עשה מן התורה לזעוק ולהריע בחצוצרות על כל צרה שתבא על הצבור. שנאמר על הצר הצורר אתכם והרעותם בחצוצרות. כלומר כל דבר שייצר לכם כגון בצורת ודבר וארבה וכיוצא בהן זעקו עליהן והריעו.
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ודבר זה מדרכי התשובה הוא. שבזמן שתבוא צרה ויזעקו עליה ויריעו ידעו הכל שבגלל מעשיהם הרעים הורע להן ככתוב עונותיכם הטו וגו'. וזה הוא שיגרום להסיר הצרה מעליהם.
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אבל אם לא יזעקו ולא יריעו אלא יאמרו דבר זה ממנהג העולם אירע לנו וצרה זו נקרה נקרית. הרי זו דרך אכזריות וגורמת להם להדבק במעשיהם הרעים. ותוסיף הצרה צרות אחרות. הוא שכתוב בתורה והלכתם עמי בקרי והלכתי גם אני עמכם בחמת קרי. כלומר כשאביא עליכם צרה כדי שתשובו אם תאמרו שהיא קרי אוסיף לכם חמת אותו קרי.
Yes and yes. BTW, do you know any gedolim who have blown silver trumpets, or shofar for any such disaster? Only one I know of was Rav Shlomo Goren, who would take a shofar with him in the army, and blow it, and alas miraculous victories.
ReplyDeleteThe Netziv says that reward and punishment are enacted through the world of teva _ natural processes.
ReplyDeleteI need to see what Rambam says in his Guide regarding Providence.
I'm not saying these different views are mutually exclusive. There are natural laws and cycles in the Torah. Yovel is an economic cycle, echoed in modern economics (kondratiev).
Torah warns us about sheretz, bats etc, and chazir which harbor so many dangerous viruses. Now the goyim are beginning to see this truth.
I note that the Sephardic custom is to blow shofar when having a special prayer for a difficult situation.
ReplyDeleteSome Ashkenazim do so too.
I apologize! Iyov: 13:4 - Veulam atem toflei shoker Rofei elil kulchem = Witch Doctors, like in India they are drinking Cows urine as immunity against the Covid-19
ReplyDeleteThe Rambam who wrote the above, also was a doctor, and a famous one. Even in his Halacha he writes some basic science. So you cannot argue that doing teshuva releases you from scientific hishtadlus.
ReplyDeleteDeot ch.4
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הַמַּנְהִיג עַצְמוֹ בִּדְרָכִים אֵלּוּ שֶׁהוֹרֵינוּ אֲנִי עָרֵב לוֹ
שֶׁאֵינוֹ בָּא לִידֵי חלִי כָּל יָמָיו עַד שֶׁיַּזְקִין הַרְבֵּה
וְיָמוּת וְאֵינוֹ צָרִיךְ לְרוֹפֵא. וְיִהְיֶה גּוּפוֹ שָׁלֵם וְעוֹמֵד
עַל בֻּרְיוֹ כָּל יָמָיו. אֶלָּא אִם כֵּן הָיָה גּוּפוֹ רַע מִתְּחִלַּת
בְּרִיָּתוֹ. אוֹ אִם הָיָה רָגִיל בְּמִנְהָג מִן הַמִּנְהָגוֹת הָרָעִים
מִתְּחִלַּת מוֹלַדְתּוֹ. אוֹ אִם תָּבוֹא מַכַּת דֶּבֶר אוֹ מַכַּת
בַּצֹּרֶת לָעוֹלָם:
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עִיר שֶׁאֵין בָּהּ עֲשָׂרָה דְּבָרִים הָאֵלּוּ אֵין תַּלְמִיד חָכָם
רַשַּׁאי לָדוּר בְּתוֹכָהּ. וְאֵלּוּ הֵן: רוֹפֵא. וְאֻמָּן. וּבֵית
הַמֶּרְחָץ. וּבֵית הַכִּסֵּא. וּמַיִם מְצוּיִין כְּגוֹן נָהָר וּמַעְיָן.
וּבֵית הַכְּנֶסֶת. וּמְלַמֵּד תִּינוֹקוֹת. וְלַבְלָר. וְגַבַּאי
צְדָקָה. וּבֵית דִּין מַכִּים וְחוֹבְשִׁים:
Thank you. I was actually thinking of another verse in 2 Divrei Hayamim, 16:
ReplyDelete12 And in the thirty and ninth year of his reign Asa was diseased
in his feet; his disease was exceeding great; yet in his disease he
sought not to the LORD, but to the physicians.
13 And Asa slept with his fathers, and died in the one and fortieth year of his reign.
In your argument /interpretation of this Aggadah,
ReplyDeletethere is another aspect:
Isaiah 38 tells us:
1 In those days was Hezekiah sick unto death. And Isaiah the prophet the son of Amoz came to him, and said unto him: 'Thus saith the LORD: Set thy house in order; for thou shalt die, and not live.'
If such a Book (of cures) literally existed, and it had been used, why did Chizkiyahu not make use of it in this case?
Could argue that he had greater emunah in Hashem than in the book, and was granted 15 more years.
If it was in Shlomo's possession, then what does that say about the Book? Was it acceptable until it led to the feeling of immortality?
Or is it an aggadah that we do not take literally.
I asked Rav Bleich once about alternative medicine , and he said that if it is scientifically proven it is permitted, but quackery is assur. I think this is based on Rambam, and he (Rav J D Bleich) said the reason it was put away was (according to Rambam) that it was based on idolatrous methods.
"However a step away from this “justifiable pride” is the arrogance of man, who thinks that modern medicine is all powerful,"
ReplyDeleteWhat a straw man argument! Literally no one thinks that.
The people around him are fantastic. Fauci, Birx, Giroir. And yes, the leadership of Pence bringing them all together. It isn't Trump's job to be a microbiologist. It is THEIR jobs to explain those matters to him, and they are doing a great job, as they are with the public.
ReplyDelete"Literally no one" is an example of a fallacious "hasty generalization". You can only speak for yourself; and maybe about the people in your sphere of association.
ReplyDeleteWhy did Chizkiyahu not make use of the "Sefer Refuos" to save himself? Who says that he had access to it any more?
ReplyDeletePresumably he knew where he hid it.
ReplyDeleteIn any case, I don't take this midrash literally. I don't take any of them literally. It's a message that is contained. There are other cases of sick people, eg king David's son, the sick son resuscitated by Elijahu, etc. They had no book, they prayed !
I'd say the midrash is taking the Greek myth of panacea, and using it against Greek influence.
The whole foundation of the medical industry is research. If modern medicine was "All-powerful" we wouldn't need an NIH, and we wouldn't be spending billions upon billions of dollars every year on scientific research and pharmaceutical research to discover new things.
ReplyDeleteThe question is , are you a vulture, taking advantage of this pandemic to blame those you disagree with.
ReplyDeleteYour narrative is very dangerous and divorced from reality.
Funny, that Rav shternbuch is taking the most rationalist position, whereas r druckman allegedly open minded follower of Rav kook is taking a measured idiocy position.
The nechash hanchoshes when looked upon healed, as explained: bizman shemistaklim klapei maala, umishtabdim libam leshamayim is what healed
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