Octopuses have been discovered tip-toeing with coconut-shell halves suctioned to their undersides, then reassembling the halves and disappearing inside for protection or deception, a new study says.
"Mel Kaminsky said...Simply amazing. Obviously very intelligent. Makes you wonder what else they think about. Relationships, philosophy? I wonder if we'll ever know."
Mel, in the context of what's REALLY happening on this blog you miss the point entirely. It's obviously a moshul/analogy for the nimshal of Tropper&EJF lugging the likes of R EB Wachtfogel and R Reuven Feinstein around as "coconuts" in and around him&EJF so that with Tropper as the octopus (a) the coconuts gave Tropper/EJF cover and balast that was not really there; (b) the coconuts served as a decoy for the real nefarious acts that Tropper/EJF were doing while the coconuts remained "dumb and numbed" vegetables; (c) the coconuts remained the playthings of Tropper&EJF who could not be influence by the cocunuts' "dead weight" in any case; (d) the coconuts made Tropper&EJF look far larger, ominous and powerful than it really was; and (e) most obviously when Tropper&EJF was finally forced to quit and chased away, the coconuts would remain stuck in the water holding the rotten EJFtarbaby and trying to fight off real legal problems and the collapse of the EJfmess they inherited, also an English expression of "people are judged by the company they keep".
Just some impressions that might be connected, since Tropper is much alike to an octopus and his new defenders and successors at EJF look a lot like out of their depths drowning coconuts as they scramble to fill the multiple roles of that multiple-personality tricky Tropper.
I would rather say that Feinstein & co will hide behind coconuts.
This blog, and you in particular, Recipients and Publicity, often questionned if Reuven Feinstein supported Tropper. We see from Reuven Feinstein's latest reaction that he did indeed.
I had been wondering for a long time why Recipients and Publicity as well as "Daas Torah" attacked Tropper for "proselytising" and never for the way he treated people who wanted to do a Giur.
Therefore Daas Torah and RaP were on the wrong track all along...
"Reuven Feinstein endorsed Tropper said...I would rather say that Feinstein & co will hide behind coconuts."
RaP: Sure, and the moon is made of cheese and there are mice there that eat it. Get real, Tropper was bringing home the bacon (now see know everything he did was chazer treif with chazer fislach to boot) by roping in the naive BT billionaires Kaplan and his nephew Guma, and instead of the money going to natural puposes to support baal teshuva and kiruv inyonim, instead Tropper channels it to his buddies who have nothing to do with kiruv or geirus and gives them millions that are pouring in from the coffers of Kaplan and Guma.
It was a poshutte zach, ta'avas hamomon prost gered, and no amount of backwards flips and word games by you, now of all times when Tropper has been unmasked as a menuval of the first order with zero crediblity, and that's being nice to the notion of zero.
"This blog, and you in particular, Recipients and Publicity, often questionned if Reuven Feinstein supported Tropper. We see from Reuven Feinstein's latest reaction that he did indeed."
RaP: That was then, this is now. There was never in the past for YEARS ANY clear cut written haskoma or heter from Rav Reuven Feinstein or anyone else to Tropper/EJF only at the very end, when R Reuven Feinstein's words were transcribed on this blog from a shiur he gave and he was caught NOT approving of Tropper's proselytization did he issue a jonny come lately letter of lukewarm praise for Tropper himself but NOT for proselytization.
It seems you are just a Tropper/Feinstein defender sent here to twist the facts and distort the truth. I guess it's to be expected that now R Reuven Feinstein has his shluchim to defend him when Tropper is caught with his pants down and R Reuven Feinstein is left stunned and speechless by the swift downfall of Tropper (thanks to the digital age) so you come here and try to confuse people with false assertions. Nice try, but no cigar.
"I had been wondering for a long time why Recipients and Publicity as well as "Daas Torah" attacked Tropper for "proselytising" and never for the way he treated people who wanted to do a Giur."
RaP: Those are two different subject. One is that Tropper/EJF had DEFINITELY conducted a long and open campaign to proselytize gentiles married to Jews (as documented and proven on this blog multiple times over the last two years) and hope they can be enticed to convert via EJF's phony-baloney "universal conversions" and indeed on this very blog came one of Tropper most ardent and eloequent supporters by the name of "Roni" (who at times was utterly like Tropper) and he openly defended and even stated a few times openly and proudly that there was "nothing wrong" with seeking out gentiles for conversion, something that runs against 2000 years of Jews in golus. This is all on the record.
Obviously you are either unaware or ignoring that and now you come to paint a picture that it was somehow off to criticise Tropper/EJF for proselytization when in fact that was Tropper's biggest goal to build his delusional world empire!
So what are you hakking in kop about now? You are just here to create a distraction from the real issues now facing Tropper by talking about bygone discussions that you are too lazy to look up and cannot bother to read on this blog.
"Therefore Daas Torah and RaP were on the wrong track all along..."
RaP: Sure and Tropper is a tzadik yesod oilam, he is the shechina incarnate, he is the mashiach maybe and Rav Reuven Feinstein and R EB Wachtfogel were honored and happy to take millions from such an eidel and heilige yid like Leibele the leimel Tropperel.
I mean what do you take us for here, a bunch of fools? Get thee to a decent yeshiva and learn some mussar!
Simply amazing. Obviously very intelligent. Makes you wonder what else they think about. Relationships, philosophy? I wonder if we'll ever know.
ReplyDelete"Mel Kaminsky said...Simply amazing. Obviously very intelligent. Makes you wonder what else they think about. Relationships, philosophy? I wonder if we'll ever know."
ReplyDeleteMel, in the context of what's REALLY happening on this blog you miss the point entirely. It's obviously a moshul/analogy for the nimshal of Tropper&EJF lugging the likes of R EB Wachtfogel and R Reuven Feinstein around as "coconuts" in and around him&EJF so that with Tropper as the octopus (a) the coconuts gave Tropper/EJF cover and balast that was not really there; (b) the coconuts served as a decoy for the real nefarious acts that Tropper/EJF were doing while the coconuts remained "dumb and numbed" vegetables; (c) the coconuts remained the playthings of Tropper&EJF who could not be influence by the cocunuts' "dead weight" in any case; (d) the coconuts made Tropper&EJF look far larger, ominous and powerful than it really was; and (e) most obviously when Tropper&EJF was finally forced to quit and chased away, the coconuts would remain stuck in the water holding the rotten EJFtarbaby and trying to fight off real legal problems and the collapse of the EJfmess they inherited, also an English expression of "people are judged by the company they keep".
Just some impressions that might be connected, since Tropper is much alike to an octopus and his new defenders and successors at EJF look a lot like out of their depths drowning coconuts as they scramble to fill the multiple roles of that multiple-personality tricky Tropper.
I would rather say that Feinstein & co will hide behind coconuts.
ReplyDeleteThis blog, and you in particular, Recipients and Publicity, often questionned if Reuven Feinstein supported Tropper. We see from Reuven Feinstein's latest reaction that he did indeed.
I had been wondering for a long time why Recipients and Publicity as well as "Daas Torah" attacked Tropper for "proselytising" and never for the way he treated people who wanted to do a Giur.
Therefore Daas Torah and RaP were on the wrong track all along...
"Reuven Feinstein endorsed Tropper said...I would rather say that Feinstein & co will hide behind coconuts."
ReplyDeleteRaP: Sure, and the moon is made of cheese and there are mice there that eat it. Get real, Tropper was bringing home the bacon (now see know everything he did was chazer treif with chazer fislach to boot) by roping in the naive BT billionaires Kaplan and his nephew Guma, and instead of the money going to natural puposes to support baal teshuva and kiruv inyonim, instead Tropper channels it to his buddies who have nothing to do with kiruv or geirus and gives them millions that are pouring in from the coffers of Kaplan and Guma.
It was a poshutte zach, ta'avas hamomon prost gered, and no amount of backwards flips and word games by you, now of all times when Tropper has been unmasked as a menuval of the first order with zero crediblity, and that's being nice to the notion of zero.
"This blog, and you in particular, Recipients and Publicity, often questionned if Reuven Feinstein supported Tropper. We see from Reuven Feinstein's latest reaction that he did indeed."
RaP: That was then, this is now. There was never in the past for YEARS ANY clear cut written haskoma or heter from Rav Reuven Feinstein or anyone else to Tropper/EJF only at the very end, when R Reuven Feinstein's words were transcribed on this blog from a shiur he gave and he was caught NOT approving of Tropper's proselytization did he issue a jonny come lately letter of lukewarm praise for Tropper himself but NOT for proselytization.
It seems you are just a Tropper/Feinstein defender sent here to twist the facts and distort the truth. I guess it's to be expected that now R Reuven Feinstein has his shluchim to defend him when Tropper is caught with his pants down and R Reuven Feinstein is left stunned and speechless by the swift downfall of Tropper (thanks to the digital age) so you come here and try to confuse people with false assertions. Nice try, but no cigar.
"I had been wondering for a long time why Recipients and Publicity as well as "Daas Torah" attacked Tropper for "proselytising" and never for the way he treated people who wanted to do a Giur."
RaP: Those are two different subject. One is that Tropper/EJF had DEFINITELY conducted a long and open campaign to proselytize gentiles married to Jews (as documented and proven on this blog multiple times over the last two years) and hope they can be enticed to convert via EJF's phony-baloney "universal conversions" and indeed on this very blog came one of Tropper most ardent and eloequent supporters by the name of "Roni" (who at times was utterly like Tropper) and he openly defended and even stated a few times openly and proudly that there was "nothing wrong" with seeking out gentiles for conversion, something that runs against 2000 years of Jews in golus. This is all on the record.
Obviously you are either unaware or ignoring that and now you come to paint a picture that it was somehow off to criticise Tropper/EJF for proselytization when in fact that was Tropper's biggest goal to build his delusional world empire!
So what are you hakking in kop about now? You are just here to create a distraction from the real issues now facing Tropper by talking about bygone discussions that you are too lazy to look up and cannot bother to read on this blog.
"Therefore Daas Torah and RaP were on the wrong track all along..."
RaP: Sure and Tropper is a tzadik yesod oilam, he is the shechina incarnate, he is the mashiach maybe and Rav Reuven Feinstein and R EB Wachtfogel were honored and happy to take millions from such an eidel and heilige yid like Leibele the leimel Tropperel.
I mean what do you take us for here, a bunch of fools? Get thee to a decent yeshiva and learn some mussar!