Thursday, July 5, 2018

Energy Healing Is Idol Worship




Energy Healing Is Idol Worship
By Rabbi Noson Leiter
 BS"D

UPDATE
Mr. Orlow was exactly correct, as is clear from the sources cited, as well.

The point of "independent will" was accentuated more clearly in the original pre-edited language I submitted, which was:

"This very attribution - to any such force (real or imagined) - of the ability to help or harm on independent will is an Avoda Zorah belief; e.g. see Rambam, Principle 5  (and Chazon Ish Y.D.62:19)."

As I indicated in the initial email, even in the best publications, sometimes editing constraints under tight deadlines result in misunderstandings.

This is an important point, one which needs emphasis, particularly in the current environment, where foundational principles, Ikkarei Emunah, are under assault, in some cases even by ostensibly frum people and authors of "sefarim."

Rabbi Leiter
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ver.2 slightly corrected response to JP Energy Healing letter 3
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Rabbi Noson Shmuel Leiter

17 Tammuz 5778


It is a relentless source of encouragement that every energy- healing proponent who actually describes his experience confirms, and often amplifies, the Halachic objections to both "Energy-Healing" practices, and to the [a]theology standing behind them.

1) A recent writer describes his experience with discovering "miracle cures," attributed to "Ki" ("Universal Energy" as known in Japan). He also relates his initial concern that it was connected to a foreign religion. Thereupon he immediately insists that it has nothing to do with religion, without providing any rationale, explanation, or even defining precisely what he means by saying it has "nothing to do with religion."

2) IDEOLOGY:

Well, his initial concern was indeed well founded, because the very concept of "K-i" is foundational to far-Eastern Metaphysics and "New-Age" religion.

Moreover, K-i, as popularized in the West by the "New Age" movement, is actually a kefira (heretical) concept:

"K-i" refers to THE FORCE that, on one hand, is imagined to ANIMATE all that exists, and, on the other hand, is subject to physical qualities, e.g. Ki is thought to flow and stagnate, and is even considered manipulatable by Man.

We, of course, know that it is HaShem Alone Who animates the entire Creation.

Even those Ki-proponents who believe in HaShem (many explicitly deny  HaShem, e.g. New Age leader Alice Bailey y"s, in "Esoteric Healing," p.393) deny the foundational Emunah that HaShem is not subject to any physical qualities.

"K-i" is, by definition, kefirah.

In addition, many energy healing proponents explicitly describe this "energy," that they purportedly utilize, as "god" (Otto & Knight, Dimensions in Wholistic Healing, p.48).

Furthermore, some (e.g. in Health Kinesiology (TM)) attribute to Ch-i energy the ability to independently, *willingly*  help diagnose clients (documentation provided in "Rav Belsky on Alternative Medicine").

This very attribution - to any such force (real or imagined) - of the ability to help or harm on independent will is an Avoda Zorah belief; e.g. see Rambam, Principle 5  (and Chazon Ish Y.D.62:19).

Thus, the very notion of Ch-i, Ki, et.al. is antithetical to Judaism.

Not only is it prohibited to believe in such erroneous notions, it's prohibited to expose oneself or others to them, or to any ideas that could lead to rejection of Fundamental Principles of Jewish Faith (e.g. see Rambam Hil. A.Z. 2:2-3, quoted in part 3 of the previously cited Psak printed in Rav Belsky on Alternative Medicine, end).

3) PRACTICE:

In addition, whatever mystical "miracle" cures the writer claims to be privy to, they are demonstrably NOT scientific, natural techniques, nor are they known segulos. [Nor do they utilize Ruach haKodesh, as our Neviyim, such as Eliyahu and Elisha, did.]

Thus, by attributing the effectiveness (real, exaggerated, or imagined) of those methods to "K-i," he is attributing mystical techniques to a kefira concept. That attribution super-imposes a prohibition on the very practice itself.  That prohibition, on it's face, is Yaihoraig Ve'al Ya'avor, as per Yoreh Daiyoh 155:1, as explained in our initial Op-ed. 

Realize that it is foundational to Judaism that idolatry °itself° has no  power whatsoever. However, sometimes Avoda Zorah related acts may result in "miracle cures," due to other factors, from placebo to a Divine test (e.g., cf. Rambam M"T, Hil. Yesodei HaTorah 8:3).

4) PSEUDOSCIENCE:

Furthermore, by misrepresenting K-i as "bio-electric" energy, the writer conveys the impression that he either doesn't know what electrical energy is - and is NOT, or doesn't care - inasmuch as he uses the term deceptively - by applying it to that which it is clearly not. Clearly, if energy practitioners would be using electrical energy, that could be detected by modern technology. And if the levels of electricity involved are so extremely low as to be undetectable, then they clearly couldn't accomplish the claimed feats.
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Q: Granted that energy healing isn't electrical, or any understood scientific phenomena, how do we know it's not some undiscovered - but natural - phenomena?

A. Because not only is this "energy" force not detectable, it's usage flies in the face of the basic laws of natural Cause and Effect. To appreciate how deeply absurd it is to claim that energy healing is "natural," one needs to know the metziyus (realia) :

Energy workers generally claim to channel, or somehow manipulate a force. They claim to use this "force" to heal, to harm, to repel attackers, to attain "Enlightenment" (or endarkenment), bring World Peace, "Heal the Planet," etc.

1. The force itself is not measurable, or even detectable, using physical, scientific methods. Only certain individuals CLAIM to be able to detect it.

2. The methods of *utilizing* this purported force fly in the face of the physical Laws of Cause and Effect because physical, natural energies cannot be manipulated by the methods energy practitioners employ.
Those methods include, for example: emptying the mind (an easy technique for many), meditation, visualization, nonsensical hand motions, verbal utterances, requests from Spirit-Guides, prerequisite
empowerment rituals like slow non-touch "clapping" (see Moreh Nevuchim 3:37), or "attunements" involving being "initiated" by a practitioner who himself has a "mesorah" of receiving "the Force" from another link in the chain of "Mesorah"...

Thus, theoretically, even if one could somehow prove that that they're using a physical force, the methods they're using to manipulate that force are not natural, physical methods. Thus, the techniques cannot be categorized as natural, physical methods.
3. Energy Healing is often performed long-distance. Many energy practitioners will "send energy" to a client thousands of miles away.

4. In addition, none of these types of New-Age energy manipulation techniques has been shown to work in any consistent manner. Thus, these methods don't even meet the threshold of a NON-understood natural technique.

May HaShem open up the eyes of all those who truly wish to see, with the Geulah Shalaimah bekarov.



It is a relentless source of encouragement that every energy-healing proponent who actually describes his experience confirms – and often amplifies – the halachic objections to both “energy-healing” practices and the theology behind them.
Mr. Blum describes his experience discovering “miracle cures,” attributed to “Ki” (or “universal energy” as it’s known in Japan). He also relates his initial concern that it was connected to a foreign religion. He then immediately insists that Ki has nothing to do with religion without providing any rationale or explanation.
In truth, his initial concern was well-founded. Ki is foundational to far-Eastern metaphysics and New Age religion. It refers to a force that is imagined to animate all of existence; it allegedly flows and stagnates and can be manipulated by man.
We, of course, know that Hashem alone animates all of creation. Even those Ki proponents who believe in Hashem (many explicitly deny Him, including New Age leader Alice Bailey in Esoteric Healing, p. 393) believe He is subject to physical qualities. Ki, by definition, therefore, is kefirah.
In addition, many energy healing proponents explicitly describe the “energy” they purportedly utilize as “god” (see Otto and Knight, Dimensions in Wholistic Healing, p.48). Furthermore, some (e.g., in health kinesiology) attribute to Ki energy the ability to “willingly” help diagnose clients (documentation provided in Rav Belsky on Alternative Medicine). Attributing to any force (real or imagined) the ability to independently help or harm is avodah zarah, plain and simple (see Rambam, Principle 5, and Chazon Ish, Yoreh De’ah 62:19).
Not only, therefore, is it prohibited to believe in Ki, it is prohibited to expose oneself or others to them (see Rambam, Hilchos Avodah Zarah2:2-3, quoted in part 3 of the psak printed in Rav Belsky on Alternative Medicine).
Whatever mystical “miracle” cures Mr. Blum claims to have experienced, they did not result from scientific or natural techniques or from known segulos. By attributing effectiveness (real, exaggerated, or imagined) to techniques based on to Ki, he is thus attributing power to a kefira concept and violating a prohibition of the severity of yaharog ve’al ya’avor. (If an avoda zarah related act ever results in a “miracle cure,” other factors are the cause [e.g., placebo, a Divine test, etc. – cf. Rambam, HilchosYesodei HaTorah 9:5].)
Mr. Blum refers to Ki as “bio-electric” energy, which sounds like a real physical force. But modern technology cannot detect this “energy.” Ki proponents may reply that the levels of electricity involved are so low as to be undetectable, but, if so, this energy couldn’t possibly accomplish the feats ascribed to it.
Some may ask: Granted that Ki isn’t electrical energy, or any other understood scientific phenomenon, but how do we know it’s not some yet undiscovered natural force?
The answer is that not only is this “energy” not detectable, its usage flies in the face of the basic laws of science. To appreciate how deeply absurd it is to claim that energy healing is “natural,” one needs to know the facts:
1) Energy workers claim to channel, or somehow manipulate, Ki to heal, harm, repel attackers, attain “enlightenment,” bring world peace, heal the planet, etc. This force is not measurable, or even detectable, using physical, scientific methods. Only certain individuals claim to be able to detect it.
2) Energy practitioners allegedly manipulate Ki by emptying their mind (an easy technique for many), meditation, visualization, nonsensical hand motions, verbal utterances, requests from Spirit-Guides, prerequisite empowerment rituals like slow non-touch “clapping” (see Moreh Nevuchim 3:37), and “attunements” involving being “initiated” by a practitioner who himself has a “mesorah” of receiving “the force” from another link in the chain of “mesorah.”
3) Energy healing is often performed long-distance. Many energy practitioners will “send energy” to a client thousands of miles away.
It goes without saying that none of these types of New-Age energy manipulation techniques has ever been shown to work in any consistent manner. Thus, these methods don’t even meet the threshold of a non-understood natural technique.
May Hashem open up the eyes of all those who truly wish to see, and may we merit the coming of the geulah sheleimah b’karov.
Energy Healing Is A Gift From God
By Robert Harris Blum

As a shomer Shabbos, teffilin-wearing Jew, I was not exactly primed to believe in the transference of bio-electrical energy (“Ki” in Japanese, “Chi” in Chinese).
But I was living in Japan and one day contracted such a severe radiculopathy that for a year I was unable to turn my head or raise my arms even mere inches. I was told by three independent orthopedic surgeons that corrective surgery was impossible, and that I would remain in my injured state for the rest of my life.
One night, I saw Ki master Kozo Nishino on television. He was surrounded by nine men who charged at him simultaneously. He turned the palm of his hand toward them, repelling all of them backward several feet. I watched the replay three times, and decided that I had nothing to lose; I went to his school in Shibuya-ku, Tokyo.
I asked him to heal me. He said, “If you want to be healed, join my school.” I replied that I was unable to turn my head or raise my arms. To which he replied, “Please wait for my head instructor, Mr. Yoshio Yuzaki. He will be here in 30 minutes. He will heal you.”
I sarcastically replied, “You’re the master. Why can’t you heal me?” He said, “He is a master too. Be patient and just wait.”
I explained my condition to Mr. Yuzaki. I sat beside him for about 40 minutes, with his hand on my neck. At the end of that time, he said. “You can move your head. Go on, raise your arms.” I did so. I was so amazed. I kissed his hand and thanked him.


defending the InquisitionThe Spanish Inquisition Was a Moderate Court by the Standard of Its Time.

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In Elizabethan and Protestant propaganda, the Spanish Empire figured as a threat to all that was good in the world.

Wherever politics and the judicial system overlap, there is bound to be controversy. Whether it be the Mueller probe or the Colorado Civil Rights Commission, the moment any legal authority appears to be going after someone a little too eagerly, people cry foul. In our pluralistic society, equality before the law is about the closest thing we have to a common article of faith. So it is no surprise that it’s a sensitive issue that can evoke emotive responses.

A familiar reaction is to accuse someone of behaving like the Spanish Inquisition. As a rhetorical device, it works well. It carries overtones of a thought police, of a tyranny over mind and soul. It conjures up images of dank cellars and sinister monks with red-hot pokers. It is a byword for oppression and abuse dressed up as law.

Yet while any reasonable person would find a lot not to like about the Spanish Inquisition, much of our popular conception of it is the product of Elizabethan propaganda and gothic fiction. There was a concerted effort by northern (mostly Protestant) European kingdoms to paint the Spanish Empire as constitutionally evil; not just a political, religious, and military rival but an existential threat to all that was good in the world. The Inquisition was the poster child for these efforts, which collectively became known as the Black Legend. Julián Juderías, Jose Alvarez-Juno, and other 20th-century historians have done much to unwind the more cartoonish allegations and understand them as the propaganda campaign they were.

In fact, examined simply as a functioning court, the Spanish Inquisition was in many ways ahead of its time and a pioneer of many judicial practices we now take for granted.

Let’s start with the basic legal concept of an “inquisition.” It just means a court of inquiry in which the judges take the lead in directing proceedings in the pursuit of truth, rather than a prosecution-driven adversarial system. Such courts continue to function in many secular jurisdictions today, and there is, frankly, nothing very sinister about it, though it appears alien to those of us raised on American courtroom dramas.

Because it was a religious court primarily concerned with heresy trials, it has the reputation of being an ecclesiastical thought police run by religious fanatics who trapped innocent laymen with theological technicalities. The Inquisition was actually a reluctant creation of the Church.

Monday, July 2, 2018

בזכות הנגיד הבריטי: בגור יחלו ללמוד בשפת היידיש

סידות גור הולכת לקראת רפורמה רצינית בתוכנית הלימודים. צעירי החסידות ילמדו בשפה היידישאית, שפה שאינה שגורה כל כך בפי הדור הצעיר בגור | יודעי דבר אמרו ל'בחדרי' כי מדובר במהלך דרמטי וכבר הבוקר ניתן לכך ביטוי ביומונים


מהלך דרמטי בחצר חסידות גור יוביל ככל הנראה ללימוד שפת היידיש בכל מוסדות החסידות, לעומת חצרות אחרות בהם לומדים אך ורק בשפת היידיש.

על פי המידע שהגיע ל'בחדרי חרדים', בהוראת הרבי ייחלו ללמוד את שפת היידיש בישיבות וכבר בבין הזמנים הקרוב ייחלו ליישם את ההוראה שתהיה בעיקר בבין הזמנים בין התאריכים י"א עד י"ט אב ובשלב הראשון ילמדו את השלב הראשוני של השפה.

המהלך הפך לשיחת היום בחצר גור ול'בחדרי חרדים' נודע כי לנגיד הבריטי הנודע ר' אליש אנגלנדר, מגדולי תומכי חצר גור בשנים האחרונות, יש חלק רב ברפורמה הזאת. הוא שוחח על כך עם הרבי ואמר לו כי יבחן את בחורי החסידות במשך 10 דקות ביידיש, ומי שיענה לו כמו שצריך, יקבל ממנו ש"ס במתנה.

יודעי דבר אומרים ל'בחדרי חרדים', "צריך להבין מדובר במשהו מאוד דרמטי בחצר חסידות גור, בעבר שניסו לדבר על כך עם הרבי הוא אמר שאין סיבה שיידעו יידיש ואם צריכים לדעת משהו זה ארמית ועד היום מלמדים את הילדים בצורות שונות ארמית בתלמודי תורה".

עוד הם מציינים, כי עד לפי שלושים שנים, בכל מוסדות החסידות למדו בשפה היידישאית ועל כן הבוגרים יותר, שולטים בשפה. 

transcript and comments

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Joseph Orlow replies to Eddie “Stealth? I told him my name. Deception? Aharon Friedman is my friend, the friend to which I refer. What's with the accusations anyway? Chutzpah? The calls were made under the guidance of my Rabbis.”

O: This is Joe Orlow. Can I speak with Rabbi Shmuel Kamenetsky?

K: Speaking

O: How are you? I wanted to ask the rav a question

K: Yeah

O: I have a friend who is married and his wife left him

K: Oy

O: And she went to live with another man

K: Oy

O: Oy, yeah. That is not permitted, right?

K: Definitely not

O: So should I tell her she has to separate?

K. Of course

O: OK

K: Does he know about it? He believes her? If he doesn’t believe it maybe, it’s mutar

O: I’m sorry. Say that again.

K: Does the husband believe that?

O: Yeah, yeah. It is very public. She did it very publicly

K: Oy

O: I wanted to ask you about this specific case

K: Yes

O: You may be aware of it.  It’s Tamar Epstein and Adam Fleischer.  I was wondering why you hadn’t told them to separate since you are saying that it is the right thing to tell them

K: Well because he had psakim from rabbonim that it is mutar, I mean.

O: That it is mutar. 

K: Yeah

O: So Reb Dovid said that it is mutar? Rabbi Dovid Feinstein

K: He said it is not mutar.  But there are other rabbonim. Some other rabbonim say its mutar. So I don’t get involved in this.

O: So you are not involved in this.

K; Yeah

O: So the rabbonim say that it … Reb Dovd should have told them to separate maybe, even if other rabbonom say yes.  Did he tell them to separate?

K: I have no idea

O: OK.  So you wouldn’t tell her to separate yourself because other rabbonim

K: Yeah

O: Who are the other rabbonim if I can ask?  Are there any names that you can give me?

K: R’ Notason

O: I am sorry I didn’t catch that

K: R’ Nota

O: R’ Nota. R’ Nota Greenblatt from Memphis. OK

K: That is what I heard

O: Alright. I thank the rav for taking my call.  Thank you very much.

K: All the best, bye bye.

O: Kol tuv. Shalom



RSK says that the annulment and remarriage are halachically acceptable

In the conversation, RSK says that he holds that the annulment and remarriage are completely legitimate under halacha. He acknowledges that RDF says it is not mutar but says there are other rabbonim who say it is mutar - and RSK says that he doesn't get involved in deciding which psak is correct.  At the beginning of the conversation, RSK says that if a married woman is living with another man, one must tell them to separate.  But he says that this is not the case with the Fleischers because the annulment and remarriage are a legitimate macholokes between different poskim and it is perfectly acceptable under halacha to rely on the view of the rabbonim who say it is mutar.  

This shows that the letter from R' Sholom [posted on the top right side of the blog] ] claiming that his father accepts RDF's psak is not true. The letter is the fig leaf behind which the "yeshiva world" [the moetzes of agudah, for example] claims that RSK disapproves of the annulment and remarriage, but this recording destroys that fig leaf.

And it is not not only that RSK does not take a position on whether RDF's psak is correct or not, RSK and R' Sholom were the ones who sent letters to rabbonim around the world [previously posted on the blog] asking them to annul the marriage. 

It is ironic that the Moetzes is attacking the Open Orthodoxy movement, while one of its members [and a signatory on the letter below, for example] has gone as far as, or perhaps even further, than any of the Open Orthodox in rejecting halacha.  The Open Orthodox reject halacha in principle according to the Moetzes, or in the Open Orthodox's own view work within the confines of acceptable halachic practice to reach halachic outcomes that are more in line with their own views of what is practical, moral and modern.  It is not clear whether RSK also does so in principle or perhaps only in order to assist the VIP families.  It is also not clear to me which is worse. 


Sunday, July 1, 2018

A haven for paedophiles: The ultra-Orthodox settlement where Malka Leifer hides

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Emmanuel: Atop the shadow-cast hills at the northern end of the West Bank, in the ultra-Orthodox Jewish settlement of Emmanuel, abusers of children have found a safe haven.
Malka Leifer, the former Melbourne school principal and accused child molester, came to live here in 2016 after an Israeli judge found she was mentally unfit to face extradition to Australia.
And here, even though she is wanted by Victoria Police on 74 counts of alleged sexual assault and rape involving girls, one resident claims Leifer was able to continue abusing children, including his own teenage daughter, without consequence.

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Rav Shmuel's letter to Rav Weiss

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Joseph Orlow replies to Eddie “Stealth? I told him my name. Deception? Aharon Friedman is my friend, the friend to which I refer. What's with the accusations anyway? Chutzpah? The calls were made under the guidance of my Rabbis.”








Thursday, June 28, 2018

ילדים נחלו: במה הורו הגר"ח קנייבסקי והגרי"ג אדלשטיין

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הגר"ח קנייבסקי והגרי"ג אדלשטיין. צילום: שוקי לרר
הרב יוסף צימבאל רב שכונת שכונת ווסט-גייט החרדית בלייקווד שבניו גרז'י, שיגר מכתב לגדולי ישראל בבני ברק, לאחר שכמה ילדים בקהילה נחלו ומספר נשים נמצאות על ערש דווי והוא מבקש לדעת במה להתחזק לפני הקב"ה. כך נודע ל'בחדרי חרדים'.

המכתב נשלח גם לשר התורה הגר"ח קנייבסקי וגם לראש הישיבה הגרי"ג אדלשטיין ושניהם השיבו לרב והדברים נתלו בבית המדרש.

במודעה שנתלתה בבית המדרש נכתב, כי הרב שלח מכתב לגדולי הדור בארץ והגרי"ג אדלשטיין יעץ שנתחזק בשמירת הלשון ובלימוד התורה והגר"ח קנייבסקי יעץ ללמוד מסכת חולין. 



If North Korea is denuclearizing, why is it expanding a nuclear research center?

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North Korea continues to make improvements to a major nuclear facility, raising questions about President Donald Trump's claim that Kim Jong Un has agreed to disarm, independent experts tell NBC News.
New satellite images made public by 38north, a web site devoted to analyzing North Korea, show that "improvements to the infrastructure at North Korea's Yongbyon Nuclear Scientific Research Center are continuing at a rapid pace," three 38north analysts concluded in a paper.


Image: Pipeline connecting new buildings and main production building recently completed at the Radioisotope Production Facility.

An annotated satellite image shows what the web site 38north says is pipeline connecting new buildings and main production building recently completed at the Radioisotope Production Facility.Airbus Defense and Space and 38 North






The analysts cautioned that the continued work at the Yongbyon facility "should not be seen as having any relationship to North Korea's pledge to denuclearize. The North's nuclear cadre can be expected to proceed with business as usual until specific orders are issued from Pyongyang."
However, other experts argue that ongoing work on the site of a reactor that is producing fuel for nuclear weapons shows that North Korea has no intention of disarming.

Wednesday, June 27, 2018

Has construction 'already started' on Trump’s border wall in San Diego?

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"We’ve already started (the border wall). We started it in San Diego."
 Donald Trump on Saturday, June 23rd, 2018 in a campaign speech.


Our ruling
President Trump recently claimed: "We’ve already started (the border wall). We started it in San Diego."
His statement gives the wrong impression that border fence replacement projects in California, including those in San Diego and Calexico, are the same as the solid, 30-foot-high concrete wall he promised during his run for president.
The $1.6 billion authorized by Congress for these projects does not allow for the construction of any sort of wall prototype requested by Trump.
Instead, the projects underway include arrays of steel posts, between 18 and 30 feet high, that allow border patrol agents to see through.
The planning for at least some of these projects, which will replace shorter scrap metal fencing, started long before Trump ran for office. Congress, however, agreed to pay for them under Trump’s administration.
We also grant that Trump at the Nevada rally added: "We’re fixing it. And we’re building new." This could be interpreted as a slight acknowledgement that the projects aren’t exactly what he promised, but they don’t add much clarity to what overall is a misleading statement.
We rate Trump’s claim Mostly False.

MOSTLY FALSE – The statement contains some element of truth but ignores critical facts that would give a different impression.
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"We’ve already started (the border wall). We started it in San Diego."

EL AL: Don't want to sit next to women? Don't fly

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El Al, Israel’s national airline, has adopted a new policy regarding the handling of male passengers who refuse to sit next to women, following criticism of a series of incidents on a recent flight.
Last Thursday night, four male passengers, all members of the haredi community, refused to take seats assigned to them after they discovered that they had been seated next to female passengers.
Claiming that their religious beliefs required that they be seated away from female passengers, the four men demanded that special accommodations be made in their case.
Despite orders by one of the flight attendants that the four men take their assigned seats, the flight was ultimately delayed by more than an hour, with the dispute only being resolved after several women agreed to change seats.
The incident drew heavy criticism, including from Barak Eilam, the CEO of NICE Systems, an analytics software company.
In a social media post, Eilam vowed to cut any and all business ties with El Al and to boycott the airline until the airline banned “actions discriminating [against] women”.
“At NICE we don’t do business with companies that discriminate against race, gender or religion. NICE will not fly EL Al Israel Airlines until they change their practice and actions discriminating women.”
In response to Eilam’s post, El Al CEO Gonen Usishkin criticized the Nice Systems chief’s comments, and emphasized that El Al had adopted clear guidelines in the way wake of last week’s incident to prevent similar occurrences in the future.
“The post by the NICE CEO was made without a thorough check of the facts, and I explained that to him in a conversation,” Usishkin said, according to a report by Channel 10.
“EL Al’s employees who handled the incident did so with the necessary sensitivity. Everyone who flies with the national airline feels the values the company was founded on: an egalitarian company which does not discriminate based on religion, race, or sex.”
Usishkin added that he had released a new directive, requiring that in the future, passengers who refuse their assigned seats will be immediately removed from the flight.
“For the sake of clarity, today I ordered that the regulations be clarified on this matter, and that in the future, any passenger who refuses to sit next to another passenger will be immediately removed from the flight.”


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