Tuesday, August 21, 2018

Kaminetsy Greenblatt heter

9 comments :

  1. You need to be quite sharp to understand the sevoro here

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  2. "How do you say 'me' in English?"

    "'Who'".

    "I thought 'who' is 'he' in English."

    "It is. And 'he' is 'she'."

    "That's like saying 'dog' is 'fish'!"

    "Correct."

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  3. Can we talk about pre-nuptial agreements?
    See http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/08/21/ex-beauty-queen-accused-hiring-hit-man-to-kill-wealthy-husband-goes-on-trial.html
    “Vázquez is a former Miss Puerto Rico Petite winner, according to a Global News profile about the battle to bring her back to Puerto Rico. Anhang, 32, a Winnipeg native who made his money in real estate and gaming software, was found beaten and stabbed to death in San Juan in September 2005. On the night he was killed, Anhang and Vazquez, met to discuss their pending divorce after six months of marriage. Anhang’s death at first appeared to be the result of a robbery gone wrong. But prosecutors say Vazquez tricked her husband into meeting up and had him killed, the BBC reported. Vázquez had signed a prenuptial agreement with Anhang that would have cost her millions if the two divorced. Anhang's net worth was estimated to be $24 million.”
    I quote Proverbs 6:25-26: “Do not lust for her beauty Or let her captivate you with her eyes. The last loaf of bread will go for a harlot; A married woman will snare a person of honor.”
    See, “Vázquez had signed a prenuptial agreement with Anhang that would have cost her millions if the two divorced.” The prenuptial agreement blocks her from his money, should they get divorced and he’s alive and well
    Susan says: "No doubt, the prospect of being required to pay permanent and substantial maintenance to their wives may prove to be one of the most effective methods of convincing greedy, vindictive Jewish husbands to give a get," the ICJW opined at the time.”
    I say that a guilty verdict on the beauty queen, Vázquez, will prove to be an effective method of convincing greedy/vindictive wives not to hire a hit man to hurt their husbands. Mendel Epstein et al was a hit man operation. What’s a few shocks and punches?

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  4. "So to nullify the marriage they needed a Heter. And Rabbis Shalom and Shmuel Kamenetsky shopped the Heter around."

    "Yes. And Rabbi Shmuel Kamenetsky acts like he had nothing to do with the Heter, merely notes he's aware that a Heter was given by a Rabbi."

    "So Rabbi Shmuel Kamenetsky did not give the Heter, wanted a Heter, says he's aware of the Heter, but that he's also aware that another Rabbi does not hold of the Heter."

    "Yes."

    "How can that be?"

    "Because Rabbi Kamenetsky is first among equals."

    "What??"

    "He's considered the greatest Gadol in America. He's head of the Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah of Agudath Israel of America."

    "And the other Rabbis he refers to?"

    "They're Gadolim, too. They're second to him."

    "What about the Bais Din in Baltimore that says the divorce case is with them."

    "They're third."

    "Wait, there's got to be a catch here."

    "There is. No Heter without a mental health professional. So according to the Rabbi who gave the Heter the Rabbis Kamenetsky were in contact with this mental health professional. And the Rabbi who gave the Heter also spoke to the mental health professional."

    "That's what the Rabbi who gave the Heter pitches?"

    "Yes."

    "The whole thing seems out of left field."

    "Wait! I haven't told you about how the Rabbi who gave the Heter depended on the Rabbi who wanted the Heter, and this same Rabbi who wanted the Heter, as noted above, says one can rely on the Rabbi who gave the Heter, or one can rely on the Rabbi who doesn't hold by the Heter!!"

    "I think there's something foul here."

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  5. I personally know many frum jews who laugh at Reb Shmiel because of his activism and am haratzus. They call him Sammy from Philly.

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  6. “Kaminetsy Greenblatt heter Abbot and Costello Who’s on First” Very funny.
    "So to nullify the marriage they needed a Heter. And Rabbis Shalom and Shmuel Kamenetsky shopped the Heter around. Yes. And Rabbi Shmuel Kamenetsky acts like he had nothing to do with the Heter, merely notes he's aware that a Heter was given by a Rabbi."
    I quote:
    “A scoundrel, an evil man Lives by crooked speech, Winking his eyes, Shuffling his feet, Pointing his finger. Duplicity is in his heart; He plots evil all the time; He incites quarrels. Therefore calamity will come upon him without warning; Suddenly he will be broken beyond repair. Six things the Lord hates; Seven are an abomination to Him: A haughty bearing, A lying tongue, Hands that shed innocent blood, A mind that hatches evil plots, Feet quick to run to evil, A false witness testifying lies, And one who incites brothers to quarrel. My son, keep your father’s commandment; Do not forsake your mother’s teaching. Tie them over your heart always; Bind them around your throat. When you walk it will lead you; When you lie down it will watch over you; And when you are awake it will talk with you. For the commandment is a lamp, The teaching is a light, And the way to life is the rebuke that disciplines. It will keep you from an evil woman, From the smooth tongue of a forbidden [lit. alien.] woman. Do not lust for her beauty Or let her captivate you with her eyes. The last loaf of bread will go for a harlot; A married woman will snare a person of honor. Can a man rake embers into his bosom Without burning his clothes? Can a man walk on live coals Without scorching his feet? It is the same with one who sleeps with his fellow’s wife; None who touches her will go unpunished.” (Proverbs 6:12-29)
    I support Trump and Netanyahu and I agree with Joseph Orlow. Trump’s political enemies are the ones A scoundrel, an evil man Lives by crooked speech, Winking his eyes, Shuffling his feet, Pointing his finger. Duplicity is in his heart; He plots evil all the time; He incites quarrels etc. Vázquez is a former Miss Puerto Rico Petite winner is accused of hiring a hit man to kill her husband when she was together with her husband. We’ll see how the court rules eventually. What will be the end of the fake/lying PhD psychology letter behind the Kaminetsy Greenblatt heter?

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  7. Has the subject Mr. F been able to have his terms met so he can move forward and only look back to see how far he has come? I think its crucial that he gets the help he deserves quietly and discreetly

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  8. In spite of my self imposed policy of not commenting without the facts, generally litigants who feel they are losing employ delaying tactics. If that is the case, it's recommended that Mr. F verify that he has halacah and lhavdil American law behind him and aggressively pursue his rights.

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