A religious court in Tel Aviv uncovered a secret cult practicing polygamy recently, when a young bride taken in by the cult reached out to the court for help.
The stranger-than-fiction story began when a young woman, now 20-years old, raised in a non-observant home, began to move towards traditional Jewish observance.
The young woman studied in a seminary and like many of her newly religious peers, was given an “adoptive” family to help her through the transition into religious life and to have a “home base” for regular Shabbat visits. She was warmly received by the couple and their 10 children in what was initially a very constructive arrangement for the young woman.
After roughly six months, however, the husband began making subtle romantic advances towards the girl. As time passed, his appeals became more direct and increasingly assertive.
To the young woman’s surprise, the wife was not only aware of her husband’s attempts to court the girl, she fully supported his efforts. [...]
At the heart of the group’s beliefs is the idea that polygamy, banned halakhically for Ashkenazi Jews a millennium ago and ended among Sephardic Jews (where it bore no resemblance to a cult) after the foundation of the State of Israel, is an essential part in the road to “the Redemption of Israel”.
A self-styled “Kabbalist” serving as a spiritual leader within the cult urged the young woman to become the husband’s second wife, telling her that “the root of her soul” is connected “with the root of his soul” and that for her own benefit she must marry him.
Eventually the girl relented to the pressure and in September was wed in a secret ceremony.
Shortly thereafter, however, the bride regretted her decision and shared her story with relatives, who urged her to secure a formal divorce from the man she had been pressured into marrying.
Last week the young woman approached a rabbinic court in Tel Aviv with her story, begging the court to grant her an annulment.
Although marriages are licensed in Israel and this was not a legal marriage, the relationship is considered a marriage halakhically and the young woman must obtain a divorce or annulment from the religious courts to be able to remarry.
The court, which included Rabbis Shlomo Stasman, Eyal Yosef, and Ido Shahar, called in the couple who had pressured the young woman into marriage and the two witnesses to the wedding. After a hearing, the judges issued a restraining order on the husband, barring him from harassing the young woman. Additional orders were placed on him and his wife, preventing them from fleeing the country until a full investigation into the matter is completed
Among their findings in the case, the court confirmed that the couple in question are indeed affiliated with a sect advocating polygamy. The group’s website, www.Jewishhome.net, advocates in favor of the restoration of polygamy, presenting what it claims are quotes in favor of the practice by prominent rabbis, both past and present. [....]
After initially attempting to justify his actions and refusing to issue a divorce to the young woman, the husband gave in to the court’s demands and agreed to immediately grant her the divorce.
They are a cult only because they promote polygamy? Or because of other factors. As it is only Ashkenazi communities that generally forbid polygamy.
ReplyDeleteEven communities which allow polygamy, don't have a system of pressuring people this way and thikingn that this will bring redemption. Those aspects are cult like.
ReplyDeleteAlso. for the first wife it is not a normal thing. It is called a tzarah because that's what it is between the wives. But this woman was pushing for it, which means that she is subordinate to this idea beyond reason, and that means that she is brainwashed. That is characteristic of cults.
ReplyDeleteTheir website as you have listed it here, doesn't work.
ReplyDeleteIn short. An adult woman consented to
ReplyDeletebe the second halachic wife of a person (though not officially
sanctioned by the Rabbanut). She then got buyer's remorse, and wanted
out. The Rabbanut pressured the husband to divorce, and he agreed to do
so.
Is this considered a Get Me'useh? Maybe.
If yes, then she's
in bad shape. She will remarry on the basis if this forced Get, and have
little mamzer babies...
Just because you don't agree with a certain belief system, doesn't make it into a cult...
ReplyDeleteWhy do you call this "pressuring"? She had free choice, just like any woman who marries a man, after he beguiles her to marry him for any reason under the sun.
ReplyDeleteThe beis din also obviously felt that there was no coercion on the man's part, or else that would have been grounds to annul the marriage.
There are Teimanim and other non-Ashkenazim that even today have multiple wives.
ReplyDeleteNot a problem. According to some of your commentators, it is "only minhag" that an ashkenazi man can't have multiple wives. The takana ran out nearly 50 years ago. We can be lenient on the heter meah rabbonim. Apparently a heter meah rabbonim can be downloaded as easily as a mechiras chometz form.
ReplyDeleteI know that you screen every comment on your blog and have been contemplating email you calling you visiting you. After much thought and research of your modus aperendi of harassing and degrading Jews that do not fit into your sphere of worthy people i feel a little safer sending you this comment in hopes that it will not come back to haunt me and that you will not look for me investigate me or harass me , you have done enough damage in peoples lives I do not want to be another of your victims. I learned of you from a woman that attended Neve in Har Nof, She was sent to you for counseling, instead of counseling her you opened every wound in her soul investigated her family started calling people in her community at home and clandestinely began a smear campaign. I realize your issues with megalomania sometimes take over and your practice ofTai Chi most likely calms the monster in you from you causing more chaos than you do. What you did to that woman was abhorrent and caused so much unnecessary pain in her life. She trusted you you betrayed that trust. After much thought I realized that talking to you face to face is talking to the walls of a bathroom, If i would discuss this matter with you I am sure you will pull a Igros Moshe or another go to to distort and legitimatize yourself Daniel Eidesohn the perfect person without blemish and sin. There is a concept of "Kapeidah" you will not be able to run across the street get Rav Shternbuch to bail you out ,you get what you deserve measure for measure. It might not be today it might not be in a month year or ten years but its coming and as ugly as you make news and embarrass people, whatever high you get from your bully pulpit will be returned measure for measure. When a tree fall in the forest does it make a sound?? When a tree falls across Katzenelenbogen it stops traffic.
ReplyDeleteMost sfardim who allowed polygamy, only allowed it with consent of the first wife.
ReplyDeleteYou are hilarious!!!!
ReplyDeletehttp://torahhalacha.blogspot.com/2016/12/joe-orlow-on-rabbinic-corruption-and.html?m=1
ReplyDeleteTo address your second point first and only, because it's appalling beyond! Annul the marriage???!!! Jews don't annul marriages, we need a get. Did the Kaminetzky?Greenblatt fiasco confuse you? (Except for highly highly unusual circumstances which hardly ever apply - don't be confused to think it's a doable remedy)
ReplyDeleteThe word cult is simply that - a word and a name. It has an implication and creates an impression, as do words. The implication is that the people within it have been at least to a degree brainwashed and duped. The fact that a first wife is fine to bring another aboard, and actually helps with that cause, matches that implication impression. Is there any more nitpicking you would like to dom on the subject?
ReplyDeleteCult today, religion tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteThat a second wife can only be taken with the first wive's consent is only applicable if it is specified in the ketubah. I suppose that's why it was written in this particular ketubah...
ReplyDeleteI may risk being viewed as obtuse. But I fail to see the humor in what I wrote in all seriousness.
ReplyDeleteB"H I have not been confused by the Tamar Epstein fiasco. FWIW, my personal opinion is that most contemporary cases of marriage annulment stand on shaky halachic
ReplyDeletelegs. Some of my past comments in connection with the Tamar Friedman
fiasco have reflected this.
I therefore apologize for my poor choice of words in my comment. The reason I brought up annulment, was my understanding that the beis din looked for any way that they could to retroactively undermine the Kiddushin of this woman. This would be by finding *legitimate* fatal flaws in the the K process. Apparently, they tried all the tricks in the bag, and were unable to come up with anything valid.
So they then stepped over the halachic line, and resorted to coercion, by which they forced the husband to give his wife a Get when he had no desire to do so. Unfortunately, this has the hallmarks of a Get Me'useh.
I don't want to get involved in the Pilegesh debate, but in this case the woman had a k-marriage, and as a result, needs a valid Get.
ReplyDeletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult
ReplyDelete"In
the sociological classifications of religious movements in English, a
cult is a religious or social group with socially deviant or novel
beliefs and practices. However, whether any particular group's beliefs
and practices are sufficiently deviant or novel is often unclear, thus
making a precise definition problematic. In the English speaking world,
the word often carries derogatory connotations, but in other European
languages, it is used as English-speakers use the word "religion",
sometimes causing confusion for English-speakers reading material
translated from other languages. The word "cult" has always been
controversial because it is (in a pejorative sense) considered a
subjective term, used as an ad hominem attack against groups with
differing doctrines or practices, which lacks a clear or consistent
definition."
Ok,Thanks for clarifying.
ReplyDeleteOh, please!
ReplyDeleteWhat if the second wife say, let the first wife get divorced. Maybe she has a child with him, the first one doesn't?
ReplyDeleteTheoretical question. No mention of children, so I suppose strictly theoretical. But valid question, if this group / cult / whatever is still around. (Wasn't there a group / cult / whatever like this in bet shemesh a few years ago?)
Maybe today, where the default is only one wife.
ReplyDeleteIn societies that allow more wives, it might have to be specified.
By the way, certain sfardi communities allowed more than one wife against the wishes of the first. (I guess Ashkenazi too, before cherem RGMH