Sunday, February 20, 2011

Igros Moshe: Can Yeshiva students take food without permission from the yeshiva kitchen?


It was brought to my attention that there are yeshiva bochrim who steal food from the yeshiva kitchen falsely claiming that this was permitted by a teshuva of Rav Moshe Feinstein. Therefore I am presenting my translation of the teshuva where it is obvious that Reb Moshe allowed no such practice. He did say where it is financially possible that the yeshiva should provide food "even in the middle of the night" but he clearly states it is the job of the administration to decide this and not for the bochrim to take the initiative.

Furthermore my brother-in-law told me that when he was in Lakewood that Rav Schneur Kotler had him install video cameras in the kitchen to catch some very agressive bochrim - who subsequently left Lakewood after they were caught and confronted by Rav Kotler.

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Igros Moshe (Y.D. 4:39): Addressed to R Yitzchok Chevroni – Nasi of Yeshiva Chevron.

It is clear that this question is a general one that is relevant to all yeshiva including mine. After considerable thought I decided many years ago that the administrators of the yeshiva have the responsibility and the authority to distribute the money which is donated to the yeshiva   because it is reasonable to assume that this is the desire of the donors. Thus the money was donated to the yeshiva by the donors with the understanding that it would be administered by the staff of the yeshiva because the donors know that the administrators of the yeshiva are responsible people who will utilize the money in a proper manner.

On the other hand it is necessary that the administrators know that the purpose of the yeshiva is for the students. Thus they need to be aware that the money has been given for the students’ welfare and benefit. It is prohibited for the administrator to conduct the yeshiva in a manner that seems cruel and unmerciful. Thus the administration needs to utilize the money for the good of the students according to the financial capabilities of the yeshiva. For example it should provide sufficient food to all the students and even to provide extra portions to those who want it. The yeshiva should even to arrange for some food in the middle of the night to those who want to eat a snack. Of course there is a distinction between a wealthy yeshiva and a poor yeshiva. Therefore it is possible that the administration might have to place restrictions according to their understanding of the needs of the yeshiva. In this manner the administration needs to balance the resources of the yeshiva with the benefits to the students also concerning things such as the use of electricity and other matters.


3 comments :

  1. I have seen too many yeshivot feed the bochurim on pasta, bread, beans, cereal and other purely carbohydrate foods.

    When young men eat high carb foods they get an insulin rush a few hours later and feel like they are starving because of the adrenalin rush that accompanies the insulin.

    A bochur could even be overweight from the carbs because excess sugars are stored as fat and still be starving from malnutrition.

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  2. Rav Eidensohn, I was in Lakewood after R' Shneur's time. While this is news to me that he had cameras installed I heard something from the old timers that is very interesting. In general, R" Shneur was sensitive to the bochurims needs and when he heard that some felt hungry he ordered the administration to provide more food. When I was in yeshiva they had tremendous financial hardship. The mashgiach gashmi Rav Finkelstein would have to shnor pocket change for yungerleit to provide a measly lunch on some days that consisted of pasta with a few specs of hamburger meat. (bli guzma)

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  3. Rav Eidensohn, I was in Lakewood after R' Shneur's time. While this is news to me that he had cameras installed I heard something from the old timers that is very interesting. In general, R" Shneur was sensitive to the bochurims needs and when he heard that some felt hungry he ordered the administration to provide more food. When I was in yeshiva they had tremendous financial hardship. The mashgiach gashmi Rav Finkelstein would have to shnor pocket change for yungerleit to provide a measly lunch on some days that consisted of pasta with a few specs of hamburger meat. (bli guzma)

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