Sunday, December 21, 2025

We are in a religious war

 https://www.israelhayom.com/opinions/we-are-in-a-religious-war/

Just like in the time of the Hasmoneans, today too—whether in Sydney, Australia, on the Temple Mount, or in the October 7 massacre—acceptance of us comes with a condition: that we Hellenize, or rather, Islamize. This is the demand of Iran and its proxies, and also of the Palestinian Authority, which continues to reject recognizing Israel as the Jewish state.

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  1. From the moment Mo's Arab hordes stormed out of Arabia and started conquering Chrisian territories, Chrisianity and Islam have been at war. The Chrisian world, though weakened by the Enlightenment, continued this war until 1918 when they toppled the Ottoman Empire and saw it replaced by a secular democracy. The caliphate was finished. The war was over. Yay, the good guys won.
    Except it wasn't. A few years later, the Muslim Brotherhood formed to fill in the gap left by the fall of the Ottoman one and has continued the war, albeit at a low level militarily, since then. It has instead used tactics like diplomacy and manipulating liberalism to create the idea that Islam is not only a religion of peace but one which must be obeyed everywhere it manifests. The Church, in the meantime, continues to think it's best option is to accomodate those who would destroy it.
    That's what makes Israel so important and so hated. Israel is important because it is the only country in the world that realizes that the war by Islam to conquer the world is still on and is hated because the West still wants to pretend they won in 1918 and it's over.

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  2. Secular democracy are the good guys??Therein is the problem of the past century
    The only overt secular democracy as such involved then was France -who would've have collapsed without the British Empire & the US

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  3. Comment removed : I want to agree with you but then I remember this ...

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    The US nearly always had/has a healthy ambiguous relationship with the terms "secular" as well as "democracy"
    Until into the 20th century virtually none of the leading domestic figures [excepting extreme Jeffersonians] would choose to use the term "democracy" as a description.
    Outsiders like Tocqueville might.But Americans wouldn't want to.

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    1. Yes, secular democracy has been the good guys. The separation of church and state made America stand out and strengthened it. Also, secular societies tend (until recently) to persecute Jews a lot less than religious ones. In 1915 would you rather have lived under American rule in New York or under Ottoman rule in Istanbul?

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    2. Note: it was precisely that separation of Church and State even in 19th century form that caused R' Yisrael Salanter to subsequently renege on his original inclination of potentially immigrating to the US

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    3. Well the danger of the separation was the risk of assimilation. On the other hand, any religion that can assure the loyalty of its adherents through ghetto walls and religious persecution isn't a religion most decent people would want to be a part of.

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    4. Incorrect. That wasn't the issue
      It interfered with the higher conception that he was trying to develop
      Iirc Germany was where he chose .

      ..Any state that needs it's media to pose the Orwellian spectre of permanent enemies & threats to retain the ardor of it's populace can't be that different

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    5. Yes and that's the point. Charedi communities in Israel and New York are run on that exact model. "The Gedolim"(tm) are infallible leaders and their askanim enforce their decrees without any questioning allowed.

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    6. Charedi only ?? As if larger societies/countries (pick your favorite) aren't.
      BTAI may,predictable diversion from the focus

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