Saturday, January 25, 2025

Humor and Holocaust

 KA wrote "Also Charlie Chaplin made a comedy which was poking fun at them. Even the Jewish comedians Mel brooks and woody Allen would make fun and use their names as a form of mockery

This is nonsense apologetics

Musk was trivializing Nazis. Chaplin and Brooks were making fun of Hitler not the Holocaust.  Woody Allan is your model He also compared Israel to Nazis! Bottom line Musk has shown great insensitivity to Jews in his quest for power in the world. Your attempt to defend the indefensible is unacceptable. 

https://www.hnn.us/article/harry-belafonte-woody-allen-criticized-for-stateme

Earlier this summer, comedian and filmmaker Woody Allen said in an interview with the German magazine Der Spiegel: "The history of the world is like: he kills me, I kill him. Only with different cosmetics and different castings: so in 2001 some fanatics killed some Americans, and now some Americans are killing some Iraqis. And in my childhood, some Nazis killed Jews. And now, some Jewish people and some Palestinians are killing each other." (Der Spiegel, June 20, 2005)

KA are you laughing?

8 comments :

  1. DT: Musk was trivializing Nazis. Chaplin and Brooks were making fun of Hitler not the Holocaust. Woody Allan is your model"

    You've not shown evidence that (yet) that Musk was laughing at or trivialising the Holocaust.
    Chaplin, Kaminsky (Mel brooks), Monty python all made fun of the nazi leaders by mocking their names. In the days when woody Allen was a comedian he did the same. I wasn't aware of his statement that you quoted, shame on him.
    Where did Musk say something so atrocious?

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    1. Kamala Harris
      https://www.thejc.com/news/usa/kamala-harris-says-heckler-who-called-israel-genocidal-is-talking-about-real-things-i14bv3ct

      After saying, “What about the genocide” and yelling “19,000 children are dead, and you won’t call it a genocide,” the keffiyeh-clad man was removed.

      “Listen, what he’s talking about, it’s real,” Harris said. “That’s not the subject that I came to discuss today, but it’s real and I respect his voice.”
      DT, did you vote for her?

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    2. Wow KA! is that your "proof" that Harris is the same as Woody Allen. She herself denied that interpretation.
      https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/harris-campaign-says-vp-did-not-agree-with-protester-accusing-israel-of-genocide/

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    3. And Musk denied he was giving a nazi salute.
      Allen is not the issue, he's just one of 4 references I cited, so we can remove him and my case is still valid.

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    4. The issue with Musk is not his intent but what he did. He was not stretching or counting sheep.
      In the context of his devotion to right wing political parties it was very bad optics. He has in general been very insensitive to the issue of antisemitism and truth in general in his quest for power.

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    5. Well it is his intent, especially.
      However you are just making a secondary argument now.
      He's on the Asperger's spectrum so that might explain

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    6. Well he is power hungry that might explain it!

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    7. So that's what it's come to? A guy raised his arm straight and he's a Nazi? Seriously?
      If you don't know, this is how the salute is done (based on my extensive research watching WW2 movies): One stands up right, puts on a very serious look, puts one's feet together and snaps one's right arm up and straight. For the hidur mitzvah, one then shouts "Heil Hitler" but bedi'eved, one has still fulfilled one's obligation. Standing casually, smiling and laughing and then putting one's hand on one's heart first is NOT how it's done.

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