https://60ribo.org.il/the-chafetz-chaim-hated-russian-communist-leaders/
It was told in the biography of Rabbi Elchanan Wasserman (in the English Artscroll edition, page 59) what the Chafetz Chaim (who usually has the final say on what is Jewish Law) did to the Communist, Trotsky.
A certain heretic who was in Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi’s neighborhood would upset him by incessantly challenging the legitimacy of verses. One day, Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi took a rooster and placed it between the legs of the bed upon which he sat and looked at it. He thought: When the moment of God’s anger arrives, I will curse him and be rid of him. When the moment of God’s anger arrived, Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi slept. When he woke up, he said to himself: Conclude from the fact that I nodded off that it is not proper conduct to do so, to curse people, even if they are wicked. “His mercy is over all His creations” (Psalms 145:9) is written even with regard to sinners.
Berachos (19a)
There were these hooligans in Rabbi Meir’s neighborhood who caused him a great deal of anguish. Rabbi Meir prayed for God to have mercy on them, that they should die. Rabbi Meir’s wife, Berurya, said to him: What is your thinking? On what basis do you pray for the death of these hooligans? Do you base yourself on the verse, as it is written: “Let sins cease from the land” (Psalms 104:35), which you interpret to mean that the world would be better if the wicked were destroyed? But is it written, let sinners cease?” Let sins cease, is written. One should pray for an end to their transgressions, not for the demise of the transgressors themselves.
Moreover, go to the end of the verse, where it says: “And the wicked will be no more.” If, as you suggest, transgressions shall cease refers to the demise of the evildoers, how is it possible that the wicked will be no more, i.e., that they will no longer be evil? Rather, pray for God to have mercy on them, that they should repent, as if they repent, then the wicked will be no more, as they will have repented.
Rabbi Meir saw that Berurya was correct and he prayed for God to have mercy on them, and they repented.
Those sources certainly present a potential counterargument to the story or the stance that it reflects, but how is it *proof* the story isn't true merely to cite a few gemaras? What about other gemaras that may contradict?
ReplyDeleteJust the other day you brought the Rambam, who says these people are no longer considered Jews, and we do not raise them, but lower them etc...
ReplyDelete(And I brought the other Rambam in Teshuva, which says if they do Teshuva, even on their last day, all their sins are forgiven).
is the conclusion that we should not believe Gadol stories in Artscroll books, or repeated in Yeshivas?
ReplyDeletethe Chofetz Chaim's grandson said 90% of the stories are not true
ReplyDeleteI hate stories like this. After all, if the Chofetz Chayim had such power, why stop with Trotsky? Why not also wish ill on Lenin and Stalin?
ReplyDeleteor hitler yemach shmo. the CC would have forseen what Amalek would do. But wait a minute, did the Avot foresee what would happen when they banished Esav, and then Ishmael? And why didn't David Hamelech use his superpowers in wars?
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