The purple-themed breakfast cereal box comes with the tagline, "boxes
are for cereal, not people," which encourages kids and kids at heart to
explore one's identity. But not all people are happy with this new
initiative.
For every box of cereal that you buy, this organization that promotes perversion can get a $3 donation from Kelloggs. https://www.rt.com/usa/524801-kellogg-gay-pride-cereal/ The “Together With Pride” cereal, which went on sale in stores across the US last week, features rainbow-colored hearts “dusted with edible glitter,” according to Kellogg Co. It was produced in collaboration with the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD). Kellogg’s is donating $3 to the activist group for each box purchased when buyers upload their receipts through a special promotion.
For every box of cereal that you buy, this organization that promotes perversion can get a $3 donation from Kelloggs. https://www.rt.com/usa/524801-kellogg-gay-pride-cereal/ The “Together With Pride” cereal, which went on sale in stores across the US last week, features rainbow-colored hearts “dusted with edible glitter,” according to Kellogg Co. It was produced in collaboration with the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD). Kellogg’s is donating $3 to the activist group for each box purchased when buyers upload their receipts through a special promotion.
I'm at a loss to figure out how a product that is so nutritionally lacking (aside from iron and vitamins it's fortified with) "reflects" Torah "values."
As a health conscious person, I agree with avoiding sugar laden foods that are nutritionally lacking.
However I was careful not to use the word kosher together with "Torah values". Because the Torah values healthful eating, and many so-called "kosher" products are in fact unhealthful for a person.
I posit that if the requirement for kashrus supervision is that the food also be healthful, then there would be 100s of products that would never get a Hechsher.
Dude, the hand sanitizer at the nursing home I have patients in has an OU symbol right next to the words "Not for oral consumption". You pay them, they'll certify it.
Kashrus is about adherence to the rules of kashrus. If it has anything to do with ethics, Rubashkin would've have his yanked. Oh wait, that double standard again. To'evah through sexuality is bad. To'evah through financial dealings isn't.
Granted that Kashrus supervision is about adherence to the rules of Kashrus, but do you think that there is an ethical line that a supervising agency should have, regarding what type of products or the type of establishments that supervision can be given to, or is the almighty Dollar the sole yardstick of measure in all cases?
And, in fact, it is not at all such a chiyuv as folks here seem so ready to assert.... Something can be very much a "Torah value" and yet be not at all halakhically prohibited per se.* Witness the Rambam's explicit language to exactly such effect, in both directions in the same halakha: "讗ָ讚ָ诐 砖ֶׁ讛讜ּ讗 讞ָ讻ָ诐 讜ְ讻讜ֹ讘ֵ砖ׁ 讗ֶ转 讬ִ爪ְ专讜ֹ 讜ְ诇ֹ讗 讬ִ诪ָּ砖ֵׁ讱ְ 讗ַ讞ַ专 转ַּ讗ֲ讜ָ转讜ֹ 讜ְ诇ֹ讗 讬ֹ讗讻ַ诇 诪ִ谉 讛ַ谞ִּ讝ְ讻ָּ专ִ讬诐 讻ְּ诇讜ּ诐 讗ֶ诇ָּ讗 讗ִ诐 谞ִ爪ְ专ָ讱ְ 诇ָ讛ֶ诐 诇ִ专ְ驻讜ּ讗ָ讛 讛ֲ专ֵ讬 讝ֶ讛 讙ִּ讘ּ讜ֹ专"
* Whether that individual personally violates some Torah mandate by having that particular piece of candy at that moment... well, that's another matter, but regardless is between them & the Eibishter, isn't it?
No. The client never said, "Be my personally rebbi." Rather, the request was for their professional expertise.
Note that it would be terrible, as a matter of blanket policy, to accept fees for the former dispensation. Only the latter is committed to, in their business handshake.
You beg the question whether a yorei shamayim who is expert in Hebrew language & diqduq may halakhically teach classes to a student population consisting entirely of idolaters, adulterers, & the like -- or, more pointedly, to a Catholic priest who needs the language class for his seminary "semikha".* By giving him a passing grade, does anyone really believe that the kippa-wearing Hebrew expert in any way give haskama to what the recipient go on to use the knowledge for, in their personal, probably corrupt life?
By the same token, a kashrus haskama is just that; it doesn't say, "Come on in!" but rather "Don't worry about what you choose to eat, if you come in..."
Your standard, while understandable at a personal level, is unrealistic practically and ultimately unworkable at all.
(* Truthfully, it's an unrealistic example, since Christian Hebrew resources are actually produced at a far more professional level than ours, and they tend to be markedly better, more sophisticated grammarians. It's the Masoretic resources they actually lack. But it works for illustration, so we'll just pretend....)
aha, so the following halacha is where he wars against all tree fruit , with the exceptions of figs, grapes and almonds. So apples, oranges, etc, even walnuts , he considers harmful. My assumption is that if they had Etrog, then they knew what oranges and tangerines are. I am about to take my Vitamin C supplement.
Right... which in no way contradicts what I just wrote, but rather jibes with it precisely.
Read it again, but think about it this time. For the Rambam, for an eved H' to take on the madrega of being a gibor is surely "beloved", avoda; that does not mean it is prohibited for him not to, or that he is even necessarily obligated already to rise to said level.
As I already wrote, Something can be very much a "Torah value" and yet be not at all halakhically prohibited per se.
Yeah, as we basically implied before in that discussion before, Hilkhos Deos really is a unity. People shouldn't excise chapters from any MT limmud. The kishkos of Rambam's thought, after all, is in how he works out specifics....
Personally, I have always found @IsraelReader postings, the polar opposite of your quote, hereinabove. Dunno why that should be a difference between readers. Could well be because this comment diverges from a pre-existing norm.
I checked. The boxes have an OU symbol.
ReplyDeleteFor every box of cereal that you buy, this organization that promotes perversion can get a $3 donation from Kelloggs.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.rt.com/usa/524801-kellogg-gay-pride-cereal/
The “Together With Pride” cereal, which went on sale in stores across the US last week, features rainbow-colored hearts “dusted with edible glitter,” according to Kellogg Co. It was produced in collaboration with the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD).
Kellogg’s is donating $3 to the activist group for each box purchased when buyers upload their receipts through a special promotion.
For every box of cereal that you buy, this organization that promotes perversion can get a $3 donation from Kelloggs.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.rt.com/usa/524801-kellogg-gay-pride-cereal/
The “Together With Pride” cereal, which went on sale in stores across the US last week, features rainbow-colored hearts “dusted with edible glitter,” according to Kellogg Co. It was produced in collaboration with the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD).
Kellogg’s is donating $3 to the activist group for each box purchased when buyers upload their receipts through a special promotion.
I'm at a loss to figure out how a product that is so nutritionally lacking (aside from iron and vitamins it's fortified with) "reflects" Torah "values."
ReplyDeletehttps://smartlabel.kelloggs.com/Product/Index/00038000219634
As a health conscious person, I agree with avoiding sugar laden foods that are nutritionally lacking.
ReplyDeleteHowever I was careful not to use the word kosher together with "Torah values". Because the Torah values healthful eating, and many so-called "kosher" products are in fact unhealthful for a person.
I posit that if the requirement for kashrus supervision is that the food also be healthful, then there would be 100s of products that would never get a Hechsher.
Dude, the hand sanitizer at the nursing home I have patients in has an OU symbol right next to the words "Not for oral consumption". You pay them, they'll certify it.
ReplyDeleteNo one should be eating most Kellogg cereals due to absence of any nutritional value in them.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely 馃挴 percent!
ReplyDeletehttps://www.toddstarnes.com/values/virginia-teacher-transgender-pronouns-adf-legal-win/
ReplyDeleteAnd remember kids, there is no such thing as a "Gay Agenda," but also, GLAAD exists.
ReplyDelete#LeftwingParadoxes
Gay or not, why would anyone want to eat glitter?
ReplyDeleteKashrus is about adherence to the rules of kashrus. If it has anything to do with ethics, Rubashkin would've have his yanked. Oh wait, that double standard again. To'evah through sexuality is bad. To'evah through financial dealings isn't.
ReplyDeleteGranted that Kashrus supervision is about adherence to the rules of Kashrus, but do you think that there is an ethical line that a supervising agency should have, regarding what type of products or the type of establishments that supervision can be given to, or is the almighty Dollar the sole yardstick of measure in all cases?
ReplyDeleteAnd, in fact, it is not at all such a chiyuv as folks here seem so ready to assert.... Something can be very much a "Torah value" and yet be not at all halakhically prohibited per se.* Witness the Rambam's explicit language to exactly such effect, in both directions in the same halakha: "讗ָ讚ָ诐 砖ֶׁ讛讜ּ讗 讞ָ讻ָ诐 讜ְ讻讜ֹ讘ֵ砖ׁ 讗ֶ转 讬ִ爪ְ专讜ֹ 讜ְ诇ֹ讗 讬ִ诪ָּ砖ֵׁ讱ְ 讗ַ讞ַ专 转ַּ讗ֲ讜ָ转讜ֹ 讜ְ诇ֹ讗 讬ֹ讗讻ַ诇 诪ִ谉 讛ַ谞ִּ讝ְ讻ָּ专ִ讬诐 讻ְּ诇讜ּ诐 讗ֶ诇ָּ讗 讗ִ诐 谞ִ爪ְ专ָ讱ְ 诇ָ讛ֶ诐 诇ִ专ְ驻讜ּ讗ָ讛 讛ֲ专ֵ讬 讝ֶ讛 讙ִּ讘ּ讜ֹ专"
ReplyDelete* Whether that individual personally violates some Torah mandate by having that particular piece of candy at that moment... well, that's another matter, but regardless is between them & the Eibishter, isn't it?
No. The client never said, "Be my personally rebbi." Rather, the request was for their professional expertise.
ReplyDeleteNote that it would be terrible, as a matter of blanket policy, to accept fees for the former dispensation. Only the latter is committed to, in their business handshake.
As it should be.
ReplyDeleteYou beg the question whether a yorei shamayim who is expert in Hebrew language & diqduq may halakhically teach classes to a student population consisting entirely of idolaters, adulterers, & the like -- or, more pointedly, to a Catholic priest who needs the language class for his seminary "semikha".* By giving him a passing grade, does anyone really believe that the kippa-wearing Hebrew expert in any way give haskama to what the recipient go on to use the knowledge for, in their personal, probably corrupt life?
ReplyDeleteBy the same token, a kashrus haskama is just that; it doesn't say, "Come on in!" but rather "Don't worry about what you choose to eat, if you come in..."
Your standard, while understandable at a personal level, is unrealistic practically and ultimately unworkable at all.
(* Truthfully, it's an unrealistic example, since Christian Hebrew resources are actually produced at a far more professional level than ours, and they tend to be markedly better, more sophisticated grammarians. It's the Masoretic resources they actually lack. But it works for illustration, so we'll just pretend....)
aha, so the following halacha is where he wars against all tree fruit , with the exceptions of figs, grapes and almonds. So apples, oranges, etc, even walnuts , he considers harmful. My assumption is that if they had Etrog, then they knew what oranges and tangerines are.
ReplyDeleteI am about to take my Vitamin C supplement.
The Chazon Ish writes (Kovets Iggerot 1:137):
ReplyDelete讛讚拽讚讜拽 注诇 讗诪爪注讬 讛讘专讬讗讜转 讛讬讗 注讘讜讚讛 讗讛讜讘讛 诇驻谞讬讜 讬转讘专讱
“Being meticulous about health measures is a form of service which is beloved before Him”.
and.... why are many doing the opposite?
ReplyDeleteRight... which in no way contradicts what I just wrote, but rather jibes with it precisely.
ReplyDeleteRead it again, but think about it this time. For the Rambam, for an eved H' to take on the madrega of being a gibor is surely "beloved", avoda; that does not mean it is prohibited for him not to, or that he is even necessarily obligated already to rise to said level.
As I already wrote,
Something can be very much a "Torah value" and yet be not at all halakhically prohibited per se.
Yeah, as we basically implied before in that discussion before, Hilkhos Deos really is a unity. People shouldn't excise chapters from any MT limmud. The kishkos of Rambam's thought, after all, is in how he works out specifics....
ReplyDeleteI'm not their spokesperson.
ReplyDeleteYou're imagination might be as good as mine.
My point being that it simply wouldn't work today. It may give some guidelines, but is not a shulchan arukh of our daily lives.
ReplyDelete"Your standard, while understandable at a personal level, is unrealistic practically and ultimately unworkable at all."
ReplyDeletePersonally, I have always found @IsraelReader postings, the polar opposite of your quote, hereinabove.
Passaic, as in Passaic, NJ?
Let it go. Authentic self-esteem is not dependent upon others or things external to us.
ReplyDeleteTRUE!
ReplyDeleteI had been taught that years ago, by my parents.
To me, this wasn't about self-esteem, but about a tremendous misconception.
I know that your self esteem is not dependent on others.
As it should be.
Personally, I have always found @IsraelReader postings, the polar opposite of your quote, hereinabove. Dunno why that should be a difference between readers. Could well be because this comment diverges from a pre-existing norm.
ReplyDeletePassaic, as in Passaic, NJ? I know of no other.
I have been reading his posts for years.
ReplyDeleteHe is very wise and a tremendous Torah Scholar.
I don't like to assume. Ergo, my query.
FYI, I am domiciled in Passaic Park, as well.