Hello Recipients and Publicity,
I am sorry for my previous posting. This is a very emotional subject for me, my family, and many others in the same situation. I absolutely agree with you that a person needs to go before a reliable Beth Dim in other to be recognized as a Jew, and this is true in regard of the Anusim. But we need to realize that we have in our hands a serious situation that need to be addressed with caution and sensibility. Otherwise, we are going to be pushing away Jewish souls that we ought to bring back to our fold. Now, it is offensive when you call our traditions “obscure rituals” when these rituals are very alive in the Orthodox community. I am not asking for a trophy for keeping these traditions for so long. I am just saying that we have a valid argument, and obviously this need to be study in a case by case basis. But the bottom line is that our claims are real, and we need to be taken seriously and with respect.
Shabbat Shalom.
Your friend, Even Ezer Garcia
Friday, September 12, 2008
Anusim II - Demand recognition and acceptance
Thursday, September 11, 2008
Chabad - Never prayed toward picture of Rebbe?
Dr. Eidensohn, I believe a clarification is in order, and respectfully request that you correct your post to reflect the truth. There is not, nor has there ever been, a 'Chabad custom' to pray towards a picture of the Rebbe, nor any picture at all. In fact, a quick glance at the Rebbe's sicha of 13 Tishrei 5743 makes clear that, if anything, the 'Chabad custom' would be the exact opposite. During this well-known farbrengen, the Rebbe expressed his outrage over those who spent davening looking at him, and said that such behavior is contrary to the Shulchan Aruch.
Rabbi Yehoishophot Oliver said...=============================== There is no such "Chabad custom"; it's totally false. Please delete this libel.
Photographs prohibited in shul/ Tzitz Eliezar
שו"ת ציץ אליעזר חלק יט סימן ח
א) באחד מסימני תשובותיו לחאו"ח דן כבו' אודות אם מותר לתלות תמונות אישים בבית הכנסת, ובשם ספר רבבות אפרים ח"ד סי' ג' מביא שכותב בשם שו"ת דברי מלכיאל ח"ו סי' ב' אות ג' שהשיב שאסור לתלות צורת אדם בבית הכנסת, ואילו בספר ילקוט יוסף ח"ב עמו' רכ"ט מובא בשם הדברי מלכיאל הנז' שהשיב בלשון, שצריך למנוע מלתלות צורת אדם בביהכ"נ, והספר דברי מלכיאל אתח"י, ולכן מסופק מהי הגירסא הנכונה שכתובה שם, כי לשון "צריך למנוע" לא משמע איסור ממש ורק מצוה מן המובחר הוא זה.
ואודיעו בזה כי עיינתי בגוף הספר דברי מלכיאל הנז' ואני רואה ששתי הגירסאות כתובות שם, אלא שאחת היא מה שהשיב לשואל מכבר, והשניה מה שחזר להשיב לו לאחר זמן, וז"ל הספר: ע"ד המזרח שיש בו ציורים בצבע צורת מנורה וצורת נשרים ואריות וכתובים איזה פסוקים ונסתפק כב' אם מותר לתלותו בביהכ"נ על הכותל, פשוט שאין בזה חשש, ורק בצורת אדם צריך למנוע וכמ"ש לכבודו מכבר, וע"ד צורת,,, שכתב כבודו, ידע כבודו שאין נ"מ בזה ואסור לתלות בביהכ"נ שום תמונת אדם, ויישר כוחו של כב' שהוציא הצורה מבית הכנסת עכ"ל הדברי מלכיאל.
יוצא לנו ברורות שהגאון בעל דברי מלכיאל גילה דעתו המפורשת שמה שהשיב מכבר שצורת אדם צריך למנוע, המכוון לאיסור גמור, וכי אסור לתלות בבית הכנסת שום תמונת אדם, ואם עברו ותלו יש להוציא הצורה מביהכ"נ.
ועוד לו להדברי מלכיאל מזה בח"ו שם בסימן י"א, וביתר אריכות, ושם כתב לאסור צורת אדם אפילו בעזרת נשים שבביהכ"נ, בנמקו כי עז"נ יש לה ג"כ קדושת ביהכ"נ כדכתבו הפוסקים, כיון שמתפלות שם, ומסכם, שלכן כל ירא ד' מוטל עליו לעמוד בפרץ להוציא את הצורה מביהכ"נ יעו"ש. ומעניין הדבר שב' התשובות הושבו לרב שואל אחד, ולתמונה מכוונת אחת שנשאל עליה למעשה כדיע"ש.
Radvaz - Seeing one's teacher during learning
Radvaz - objected to images used in shul
It has been asserted that the Radvaz (3:472) is the source of the Chabad practice of praying toward a photo of the Lubavitcher Rebbe. However this teshuva says nothing about prayer but only that there is tremendous importance of learning Torah in the presence of one's teacher. It is about Torah study not prayer and it is not about images but rather the living teacher. Thus the Radvaz is cited to show that learning from tape recordings is not ideal since the presence of a human teacher is missing. In addition the following teshuva of the Radvaz about making images - not only in shul - but also in general shows the viewed it as very problematic. It is highly unlikely that the Radvaz would have approved of praying towards an image of anything. The following is only an excerpt of the teshuva. In addition as a kabbalist he probably would not have approved of making an image of a person in the first place.
שו"ת רדב"ז חלק ד סימן קז
/תחת סימן ק"ז מופיעות שתי תשובות, אחרי פסקה שלישית מתחילה התשובה השניה/ (אלף קעח) שאלה מעשה היה בקנדיא בראובן שסד בית הכנסת וליבן אותו ותקן אותו יפה יפר /יפה/ ורצה לכתוב על גובה ההיכל שמו ושם אבותיו ולהתעטף ולהתהדה בטלית שאולה ולא זו בלבד אלא שגבה לבו עד להשחית ורצה להשים למעלה מן ההיכל סימן דגל משפחתו הנקרא ארמ"א בלעז והוא צורת אריה וכתר בראשו. ולא זו בלבד אלא שרצה לעשותו גולם ממש בולט ולקח לו אבן שיש וצוה את האומנין לעשות לו פסל דמות אריה מוזהב וכתר מלכות בראשו ויצר אותו בחרט וגו' והיה מסדר ליתנו בצמרת ההיכל ובגובהו כנגד המשתחוים. גם כתב על אבן שיש פלוני בן פלוני הגאון. והקהל יצ"ו כשמעם את הדבר הרע הזה התאבלו והשתדלו בכל כחם ואונם למנוע את ראובן מהמעש הרע הזה. ובהיות ראובן זה בעל זרוע קרוב למלכות לא אבה שמוע להם עד שהוצרכו לפזר מעות הרבה על זה ומנעו אותו בכח השררה יר"ה. ושאלו ממנו אם דבר זה מותר או אסור:
תשובה יפה עשו הקהל יצ"ו שמנעו ובטלו שמץ עבודה זרה מבהכ"נ ועליהם תבא ברכת טוב ושכרם כפול מן השמים בזה ובבא ואלו הוינא התם מסרנא נפשאי עלה. יהא חלקי עמהם ועם החכמים יצ"ו אשר החזיקו את ידם על ככה. וקרוב אני לומר שראובן חייב בכל ההוצאות שעשו הקהל לבטל ענין מכוער כזה. ומפני שלא נשאלתי על זה לא אכתוב בו דבר שלא אהיה נדרש ללא שאלו. ועל הרועים המחזיקים ביד ראובן חרה אפי שאפילו לפי דעת מי שסובר דמותר לעשות שאר צורות לנוי מכל מקום יש לחוש כמה חששות כאשר אני עתיד לבאר בעזרת האל. חדא שעיקר הדין בעשיית שאר צורות תלוי במחלוקת. דגרסינן בפרק כל הצלמים מנקיט רב ששת חומרי מתנייתא ותני כל המזלות מותרים חוץ ממזל חמה ולבנה וכל הפרצופין מותרין חוץ מפרצוף אדם וכל הצורות מותרות חוץ מצורת דרקון. ואקשינן עלה בגמרא אמר מר וכולי ואסקינן קושיין רישא וסיפא במוצא ואמצעיתא בעושה. אמר אביי אין רישא וסיפא במוצא ואמצעיתא בעושה. רבא אמר כולה במוצא ומציעתא רבי יהודה היא דתניא רבי יהודה מוסיף אף דמות מניקה וסר אפס עד כאן בגמרא. נמצא לפי תירוצו של אביי ברייתא אמצעיתא דכל הפרצופין מותרין חוץ מפרצוף אדם איירי בעושה ואם כן מותר לעשות כל הפרצופין חוץ מפרצוף אדם וכן כל הצורות חוץ מצורת דרקון. ובצורת דרקון איכא פלוגתא איכא מאן דאמר דכיון דאיירי סיפא במוצא דוקא במוצא אסור אבל לעשות צורת דרקון מותר. ואיכא מאן דאמר דלעשותו נמי אסור דחוץ מצורת דרקון דקתני אפילו במוצא וכל שכן בעושה. ומכל מקום מתירוצו של אביי למדנו דצורת אריה לבד וכן כל שאר הצורות מותר לעשותם חוץ מפרצוף אדם. וכן כתבה הרמב"ם ז"ל פרק שלישי מהלכות ע"ז וזה לשונו צורת הבהמות ושאר נפש חיה חוץ מן האדם וכולי מותר לצור אותם אפילו היתה הצורה בולטת עד כאן. וכן נראה סברת הריא"ף זכרונו לברכה שכתב הברייתא כצורתה משמע דבכל גוונא מותר בין מוצא בין עושה בין שוקע בין בולט. וכן היא סברת הרשב"א ז"ל ורוב פוסקים נמשכו אחריהם. אבל ראיתי להרמב"ן ז"ל שכתב שכל הצורות הבולטות אסור לעשותם מפני החשד וז"ל והא דתניא טבעת שחותמה בולט וכולי לאו בדמות שמשי מרום אלא בשאר כל הצורות היא דכיון דבולטות נינהו איכא למיחש לחשדא שמא צורה נעבדת היא כיון שהוא מניחה ואעפ"י שאחרים עשו לו אסור להניחה וכן הוא אסור לעשות כל צורה בולטת שמא יאמרו לעובדה הוא עושה. והא דשרינן לעיל בעושה צורות ופרצופות כולן בשוקעין איירי אבל בבולט חיישינן לחשדא אא"כ עושה אותה לרבים שלא במקום חשדא. ומיהו מסתברא לי שלא אמרו אלא בטבעת וכיוצא בה שהן מכובדים אבל על המבוזים מותר לצור שאר צורות בין בולט בין שוקע עכ"ל. וא"ת איך התיר הרב זכרונו לברכה לעשות צורת אריה כאשר העיד עליו הרשב"א זכרונו לברכה בתשובה. לא קשיא דאיכא למימר לרפואה שאני. וכן נראה שאפי' הרשב"א לא התיר אלא לרפואה כדמשמע לשון תשובתו ואע"ג שהרב זכרונו לברכה סובר דלהלכה מותר דילמא למעשה לא התיר אלא לרפואה ובני דורו חלוקים עליו אפי' לרפואה. וגם הוא זכרונו לברכה לא החליט הדבר להיתר ועיין בתשובתו סימן תי"ג. אי נמי יש לתרץ שהצורה שעשה הרמב"ן זכרונו לברכה לא היתה בולטת אלא שוקעת. אי נמי שלא היה אלא צורת חצי הגוף כדרך שמציירים בטבעות או על הלוח אבל גוף שלם כנדון דידן לא התיר אלא אדרבא אוסר בהדיא.
Kashrus - Agriprocessors threatened with loss of certification
Rabbi Menachem Genack, who is in charge of kosher supervision for the Orthodox Union, the major kosher certifying organization in the United States, said he had set a deadline of “several weeks” for Agriprocessors to name a new chief executive, or the group would suspend supervision of kosher production at its plants.
“Because of the new charges in the state of Iowa, we believe it is in the best interest of the kosher consuming public to have new management with a new C.E.O., that will give people a new sense of confidence that all laws and regulations are being completely complied with,” Rabbi Genack said in an interview on Wednesday.
Losing the kosher certification of the Orthodox Union would be a potentially crippling blow to Agriprocessors, whose meat and poultry — sold as Aaron’s Best and Rubashkin’s, among other brands — are staples in Jewish households nationwide that observe kosher practices. The company is by far the largest producer of kosher meat, with annual kosher sales estimated at $80 million. Although other groups provide certification, they are less widely known, and the loss of the familiar circled-U seal on the company’s products could drive away many customers.
Agriprocessors has been struggling to maintain its production since 389 illegal immigrant workers were detained at its plant in Postville, Iowa, in a raid on May 12. On Tuesday, Iowa’s attorney general brought 9,311 criminal misdemeanor charges that accused the company of employing 32 workers under the legal age of 18 in Postville. Many of the youths worked night shifts in dangerous jobs that exposed them to hazardous chemicals, according to the charges.
Aaron Rubashkin, the Agriprocessors owner, who is a Hasidic Jew, and his son Sholom, the former chief executive of the Postville operation, were named as defendants in the criminal cases.
The Orthodox Union’s ultimatum was first reported on Tuesday by JTA, the Jewish news agency. The agency also reported that a second kosher certifier working in the Postville plant said that he would not withdraw.
Rabbi Menachem Weissmandl, the other certifier, said he would remove his seal of approval only if the company failed to follow strict procedures for slaughter and packing mandated by Jewish dietary ritual laws, JTA reported.
Rabbi Genack said he had told the Rubashkins after the raid that he expected them to seek new leadership for the company. Shortly after, Aaron Rubashkin announced that he had fired Sholom Rubashkin as chief executive, and was seeking to replace him, but no new executive has been named.
Agriprocessors has already met another condition laid down by the Orthodox Union, Rabbi Genack said, by hiring James Martin, a former United States attorney from Missouri, as a compliance officer to enforce labor and safety standards.
For the top manager, Rabbi Genack said, “We want to see a new face, somebody independent who can give new direction to the company.”[...]
Chabad - L. Rebbe as Moshiach/ R' Chaim Brovender
Q: Some people suggest in the name of well known Torah giants that the Torah rejects the notion of a deceased leader of the Jewish people being qualified to be the long awaited messiah.
They explain that fostering such a belief encourages some Jewish people to believe that the late Lubavitcher Rebbe could still be the messiah, even after his demise.
They also explain that this is not only a dangerous belief for young people, who are prone to be disappointed and abandon Orthodox practice.
Rather, there is no basis in the words of our sages obm, not in the Talmud, nor in Rabbinic writings that appeared later.
Regarding statements in the Talmud and rabbinic writing like Sdei Chemed, the concept of min hamasim is presented, these people suggest these is not meant to be understood literally.
Which view is valid?
Rabbi Chaim Brovender replied
A: The topic of the messiah appearing in our time in the guise of the previous Lubavitcher rebbe has become a serious matter in our time. Some are vehemently in favor (mostly hasidim) and some are opposed (some hasidim and many others). I take it that you feel you have to have a position and would like me to give some direction.
Although sympathetic to the enterprise of the Rabbe and in spite of the fact that I visited (yechidus) several times, I have never been part of the Habad movement. When this idea began to gain support from within I must admit that it left me cold. After all, the rebbe had many opportunities to announce his messianism which he only alluded to (according to some interpreters). The Rambam says that when the messiah comes we will all know. That seems reasonable to me. There is no doubt that the Jewish people (outside of Habad) do not know. The Rambam states further that we should try to avoid dwelling on the matter of the messiah since it is not really part of the information package that we received in our tradition.
I have thought about it and I have no way to connect to the notion that the rebbe who died some years ago continues to function as the messiah.
In spite of the rebbes obvious greatness, it seems to be another mistake that the Jews have made on this topic.
We continue to pray fo the coming of the messiah in our time.
Anusim - Demand recognition and acceptance
To Recipients and Publicity,How you dare to say “How on Earth there could still be Marranos/Anusim/Conversos.” I am not going to waste my time explaining my Jewish lineage to you. But I would like to ask you, how do you explain our Jewish customs after so many years? My family covered the mirrors in the house and discarded water from flower vase when family member passed away, buried nail clippings, my grand father asked to be buried facing Jerusalem, discarded chametz for Pesach, and many other customs. We did all this without books, Rabbis, and formal community. Now, who are you to make halachik decisions? By disguising or omitting your name, I can tell what kind of person you are. My birth name is Even Ezer, and in honor of my ancestors and for the future of my children, I returned to G-d and Judaism, I returned home and we are here to stay with or without your consent.
Rep. Cohen - Obama like Jesus /Palin like Pontius Pilate
[Jewish] Tennessee Rep. Steve Cohen riled Republicans Wednesday after he compared Barack Obama to Jesus Christ and suggested Sarah Palin is akin to Pontius Pilate.
The Tennessee Democrat, who supports Obama, was on the House floor giving a one-minute speech when he offered the comparisons.
“If you want change, you want the Democratic Party,” Cohen said. “Barack Obama was a community organizer like Jesus, who our minister prayed about. Pontius Pilate was a governor.”
A similar statement has been circulating in e-mails and on blogs in recent days, before Cohen spoke Wednesday.
But Cohen was referencing shots Palin took at Obama during her address last week at the Republican National Convention in St. Paul. Palin, a former mayor, poked fun at Obama for crediting his work as a community organizer, saying, “I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a community organizer, except that you have actual responsibilities.”
The National Republican Congressional Committee objected to Cohen’s statements Wednesday in a press release, pointing out that Pilate sentenced Christ to death and asking, “What point was Cohen trying to make?”
Wednesday, September 10, 2008
Chabad - Dr. Berger doesn't get it /Good people vs Theology
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Guest Post: Recipients and Publicity's comment to "Chabad - Prof. David Berger's clarification of Vil...":
Dr Berger just doesn't get it. The Shluchot are a refutation to the anti-Chabad sceptics.
Reading this essay is such an interesting counter balance or counter-approach to the Dr. Berger world view of Chabad and how he perceives the subject as he strives to ring alarm bells about it. Published in the latest "The New York Jewish Week," Monday, September 08, 2008 written by noted columnist Jonathan Mark.
The article has its own problems (dragging Feminist Rebbetzin Blu Greenberg into the discussion and it ignores the fact that Governor Sarah Palin is an avowed evangelical Christian with interests very different to the shluchot he compares her to), but it does convey the supra-rational human appeal of Chabad via its Shluchot and how powerful and appealing that paradigm is not just for Jews but now for American politics and why it makes the metaphorical shutters come down when the arguments of the "talking heads" and "chattering classes" as exemplified by Dr. Berger's constant academic attacks against Chabad that just look like he's spinning his wheels and going nowhere as Chabad keeps on growing and impacting the world, religiously and secularly.
Importantly, the article shows the very real political implications of the Chabad approach both for Jews and in American politics using the person and persona of the latest Republican nominee for Vice President, Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska as a "living metaphor" who has also been praised for her pro-Jewish and pro-Israel stance (but as is known she is a Christian Evangelical that may have its challenges too) see also the VIN article "Chabad Rabbi: Sarah Palin a Great Friend To The Jewish Community" (see below after the Jewish Week article.)
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Here's the Jewish Week article of September 08, 2008"Sarah Palin's Appeal Is Same As Chabad's=====================
I'm getting a hunch the Republicans just might win for one reason alone, and it makes no sense, just like Chabad makes no sense to the Jewish elite.
That one reason is Sarah Palin. She reminds me of about a thousand different Chabad shluchot (the rebbe's women representatives). She's seems friendly, sexy (forgive me) in an Orthodox way, with that magnetism, optimism, and accessibility that has made Chabad shluchot successful in 5,000 different locales, even though they are almost always considerably more right-wing -- religiously and politically -- than their congregants and financial supporters.
Reform, Conservative and other Orthodox Jews don't get it. How is Chabad is so successful in places where there are no Chasidim? Why do liberal Jews on the Upper West Side want to send their kids to Chabad pre-schools? Why do many hundreds of non-Chasidic, even non-Orthodox students at Harvard and SUNY Binghamton want to spend Friday night meals with these Chabad Sarah Palins rather than the more mainstream, liberal Jews down the road? It makes no sense.
Don't get it, do you?
Who would you rather have a cup of coffee with on a bungalow porch, a cup that can turn into a three-hour conversation, Sarah Palin or Nancy Pelosi?
Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton come across like the Queen of Spades of a nanny state; school marms of a school you don't want to go to. Pelosi, in particular, seems like one of those Sisterhood program chairs from a suburban temple whose calls you don't want to answer.
Sarah Palin seems like one of those Chabad women who don't have enough chairs at her table for all the non-Chabad women who'd take a plane or a subway to attend the next shluchot convention in Crown Heights.
Something's happening and you don't know what it is, do you, Nancy Pelosi?
And another thing: There are plenty of logical, rational reasons to abort America's relationship with Israel, the far left tells us, but Chabad doesn't abort and evangelicals (such as Palin) don't either.
Rabbis who can't stop quoting Heschel or Soloveitchik don't get it.
Americans and Jews don't need another genius. We don't need another Herr Rabbi Doctor. We have enough "scholars," believe it or not.
We don't have enough human beings who'd rather rock a Down Syndrome baby to sleep than abort it; human beings who can relate to a flunking child or the stuffiness of the sophisticates, parents who don't give a damn who's in the top shiur or who made law review.
We have too many of the best and the brightest, the wise and the brilliant, who can't communicate (and who, in the end, maybe aren't really the best or all that brilliant.)
The genius of Chabad is delivering their message in a down-home way, much as Sarah Palin did at the convention. [...]
Chabad women don't conduct studies. They cook a chicken (or, Sarah Palin, a moose) and invite you over on Friday night. And college students, middle-class families, international businessmen want to be there.
At the beginning of these successful relationships between Chabad and their guests, theology and politics having little or nothing to do with it. A lot of Palin's appeal has nothing to do with her theology or politics either.
The other party and denominations are trying to figure it out. Maybe if they could get a grant. Maybe if they could find someone with whom they can dialogue.
Chabad women and Sarah Palin don't dialogue. They talk. And they don't talk down.
They win. Makes no sense, does it?"
Here is the article from VIN (similar report in a number of Jewish media)
"Chabad Rabbi: Sarah Palin a Great Friend To The Jewish CommunityChabad of Anchorage’s Rabbi Yosef Greenberg: [...]
I was personally impressed by Gov. Palin’s remarks of hope and faith when she gave birth to a child with special needs. We all feel that the Governor is a remarkable, energetic, and good person. [...]
In Rabbi Olensky's shul in North Miami Beach, FL there was a picture of the Rebbe next to the Aron. This was in effect, praying to the Rebbe.
In Rabbi Dalfin's shul in North Bay Village, FL, there was a picture of the Rebbe in the sanctuary (back wall, opposite Mizrach) that the Chassidim would turn to face while davening.
These are two examples of shuls that I personally visited while on vacation where I saw Lubavitcher Chassidim praying to a picture of the Rebbe on the wall.