Stark figures released on Monday by the State Comptroller’s Office revealed the high percentage of women subjected to sexual harassment or abuse while performing their obligatory national service in the Israel Police, Border Police and Israel Prison Service.
The report was largely based on a survey of conscripts in the three forces, and it was not immediately clear whether steps had been taken to prevent selection bias in the responses.
The report found that harassment is for the most part committed by professional, non-conscripted members of those forces including commanders, and when reported is either insufficiently addressed or not dealt with at all
So women enter a profession known for high testosterone and power-hungry men who want to be legally violent and then discover this. Hmmm.
ReplyDeleteThey din't willingly enter this situation. These are female CONSCRIPTS, who are drafted by FORCE, by the Israeli army system.
ReplyDeleteThese ugly statistics only support what Gedolei Yisrael have been saying for decades, i.e., that a Bas Yisrael has no place in such an immoral setting.
But Women Groups have been pushing for decades the right to be conscripted.
ReplyDeleteAFIK, that is factually incorrect.
ReplyDeleteThe feminists have been fighting for the "right" to play various combat roles in the army, which in the past they have not been allowed to do.
But ALL Israeli girls are subject to army conscription.
(Religious girls can ask for an exemption, but until they receive their exemption, they technically are liable to be conscripted, and obligated to serve).
Test is whether Ben gvir or smotrich are going to defend bnos yisrael, or only fight with guns
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, Ben Gvir and Smotrich are part of the problem, in that they support Sherut Leumi.
ReplyDeleteThat's why I'm asking, are they really concerned with Torah values or just military control?
ReplyDeleteIf reading the news over the last 20 years has learned me anything, it's that these Bnos Yisrael are just as much at risk in their homes
ReplyDeleteNonsense.
ReplyDeleteit's a criminal negligence of rashaim in quasi military, who abuse girls for their own political gain.
https://www.makorrishon.co.il/opinion/548505/
ReplyDeleteThis is necessary
When the CI, rav Meltzer, Rav Frank ztl and all other Gedolim opposed call up, they knew something we do not know.
There was a time RZ had rabbanim, in politics. What do they have now?
In light of the rulings of Gedolei Yisrael against serving in Sherut Leumi, then those who DO support service in Sherut Leumi, have distorted Torah values.
ReplyDeleteHyperbole, much?
ReplyDeleteWow so you want to take all children away from their family to be raised in the "safety" of a state run institution?!
ReplyDeleteI sometimes wonder about your skills in reading English.
ReplyDeleteFoe someone who claims being informed by 20 years of reading the news you sure don' t show it unless you mean you have internalized a false picture from sensationalized accusations
ReplyDeleteArmy and sherut leumi are different entities.
ReplyDeleteall female conscription should be halted.
I agree that the Israeli army and Sherut Leumi are different entities, however they both have similar tznius issues.
ReplyDeleteThey are very different.
ReplyDeleteeg volunteering in a hospital.
it's important to not be sloppy or fictitious regarding facts. that's why hareidim do make_up halacha, because they bend the facts to suit their preconceived ideology.
the prison guards scandal was military conscripts, not sherut leumi.
another false fact daas Torah was the opposition to French aliyah. despite the high assimilation rates, shmad - school education on shabbat, oh and the occasion pogroms against Jews, but not a big deal.
Which facts was I "sloppy" or "fictitious" about?
ReplyDeleteThat They have allegedly similar tzniut problems .
ReplyDeleteHow many unmarried pregnancies have there been on sheirut leumi?
I said that they have "similar tznius issues", without identifying precisely what these particular issues were.
ReplyDeleteYou jumped to the conclusion, that I was referring to unmarried pregnancies.
As it turns out, I wasn't thinking about that issue at the time, but once you mention it, do you have reliable statistics on the prevalence of sexual activity in the Israeli army vs. Sherut Leumi?
No, I didn't jump to any conclusion, I gave that example because it is most extreme, and also, you simply have no idea what sherut leumi is.
ReplyDeleteAnd you still have failed to justify or explain your claim.
You can give any example you want, but since it's YOUR example, and not mine, then you can't use it against me.
ReplyDeletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
you've given no example, definition, description, or any qualitative imformation
ReplyDeleteJust claimed that x is pretty much like y.
Correct.
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