Saturday, November 7, 2020

Trump will be a former president, whether he concedes or not.

 https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/07/opinions/trump-concession-norms-zelizer/index.html

 If Donald Trump refuses to give a concession speech, it will be one of the last norms that he breaks as President. Now that President-elect Joe Biden has won the 2020 election, Trump will need to decide what to do next.

 The good thing is that it doesn't ultimately matter. A formal concession after an election is not embedded in our Constitution -- it is a norm. Historians tend to date the first public concession back to 1896, when Democrat William Jennings Bryan sent Republican William McKinley a telegram that said: "I hasten to extend my congratulations. We have submitted the issue to the American people and their will is law."

23 comments :

  1. The question now is: will Trump humiliate himself by having the security guards toss him and his suitcase out the front door of The White House?

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  2. It's a free country.

    I can say Donald Trump won the election. I can say he lost.

    But I'll tell you this: plenty of Dems seemed to have had a hard time accepting that Donald Trump won the last election. They think Russia interfered and made him President! But that American citizen Democrats could do that same fraud for Mr. Biden -- NOOOO! That's not possible....

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  3. No idea who won or lost. I'll know the answer when the Electoral College votes.

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  4. For those who haven't got the memo: Covid and the subsequent economic deterioration spelled doom for Trump's re-election. However, the strong showing of Trump (the popular vote was close) and other Republicans (Senate will remain Republican and House had gain of Republican seats) spells doom for the Democrats unless they get their act together.

    The more Trump resists the more he energizes his already energized base to make a Biden Presidency unable to do much more than try to rule by Executive Order.

    Trump out of power will continue to wield great power through his tweets. He can ally with Right wing media to solidify and grow his base. He can use his wealth and star power to fundraise for candidates.

    It's unbelievable, but on some of the social media I follow many people are coalescing around the idea that Trump won the election. Shockingly, Gab -- a popular social media outlet -- is anticipating that Twitter and other Big Tech will pull the mic switch on Trump after the inauguration, and is preparing to become the social media of choice for the President and is prepping its millions of users to support a second Trump term if the President refuses to vacate the White House.

    We are headed for civil war, and no one wants to say it. Ammunition costs are through the roof as people stock up. This transition -- or lack of -- is shaping up to be a messy affair.

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  5. Torah thought on חיי שרה
    “Then Laban and Bethuel answered, The thing proceeded from the Lord מֵיְקֹוָק יָצָא הַדָּבָר; we cannot speak to you bad or good. Here is Rebekah before you; take her and go, and let her be a wife to your master’s son, as the Lord has spoken כַּאֲשֶׁר דִּבֶּר יְקֹוָק.” (Genesis 24:50-51).
    בראשית כ”ד
    (נ) וַיַּעַן לָבָן וּבְתוּאֵל וַיֹּאמְרוּ מֵיְקֹוָק יָצָא הַדָּבָר לֹא נוּכַל דַּבֵּר אֵלֶיךָ רַע אוֹ טוֹב:
    (נא) הִנֵּה רִבְקָה לְפָנֶיךָ קַח וָלֵךְ וּתְהִי אִשָּׁה לְבֶן אֲדֹנֶיךָ כַּאֲשֶׁר דִּבֶּר יְקֹוָק:
    רש"י
    ויען לבן ובתואל - רשע היה וקפץ להשיב לפני אביו: לא נוכל דבר אליך - למאן בדבר הזה, לא על ידי תשובת דבר רע ולא על ידי תשובת דבר הגון לפי שניכר שמה' יצא הדבר, לפי דבריך שזימנה לך:
    שכל טוב (בובר)
    ותהי אשה לבן אדוניך כאשר דבר ה'. אליו בהר המוריה. מכאן אמרו רבותינו מה' אשה לאיש:
    According to the midrash, God spoke to Abraham at the Akeida about Rivka. Laban and Bethuel seemed to know this: “Here is Rebekah before you; take her and go, and let her be a wife to your master’s son, as the Lord has spoken כַּאֲשֶׁר דִּבֶּר יְקֹוָק”
    My theory. Laban and Bethuel did believe everything comes from God. Yet in the midrash Laban and Bethuel were wicked. How to explain? My theory, Laban and Bethuel had tricks up their sleeves they believed would thwart God’s plan. This is like the Progressive Left in the US they had tricks up their sleeves to get Biden elected. They know that Trump won if votes counted legally. They know that God is supporting Trump’s actions re Israel and against Iran and against terrorists. Trump is total opposite to 8 years Obama/Biden . The wicked Progressive Left, for inappropriate reasons, does fraud to get Biden to win.
    Allow me my letter today to the NYS Court of Appeals:
    “2.You wrote to me October 28, 2020 Re: Aranoff v Aranoff Mo. No. 2020--352 Mo. No. 2020--664 Dear Mr. Aranoff: On October 27, 2020, this office received your letters dated October 23, 2020 and October 25, 2020. Enclosed as requested inn your October 22, 2020 letter are copies of the Court's decisions for Motions Nos. 2020--352 and 2020--664. Your letter dated October 25, 2020 is returned enclosed. Your motion for reargument was decided on October 22, 2020 and, accordingly, the October 25, 2020 letter was received too late to be considered in connection with the motion. Moreover, because no appeal or motion is pending before the Court of Appeals, the Court has no authority to issue a stay.
    I notice that NYS courts permit motions on behalf of the court, as happened to me to my detriment in the Appellate Division Second Dept. Perhaps the court will make a motion for stay QDRO/Sanctions on its behalf? Perhaps just to eliminate the embarrassment of $25,000 inappropriate fines of the late judges Rigler and Garson from two decades ago? Perhaps to eliminate the embarrassment of an inappropriate awarding my TIAA pension to Susan from early 1994 with no end in sight? Were the QDRO and the $25,000 sanctions legal? Surely not. Susan won my pension, the $10,000 will money and the house through fraud.
    3.The basis of my argument in support for this Motion for stay QDRO/sanctions is simple. Overt glaring acts of forgery, lies, and judicial fraud are so manifest in my papers---the Court must, out of fairness and the NYS Constitution, must grant my Motion for stay QDRO/sanctions. Whether or not I have an appealable paper is a red herring.
    4.I ask that the NYS Court of Appeals calendar the present motion.”

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  6. Nonsense. You claim the Biden people tricked G-d?!
    Shows how dangerous belief in Trump as Moshiach

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  7. Daas Torah Mod “Nonsense. You claim the Biden people tricked G-d?! Shows how dangerous belief in Trump as Moshiach” Thanks. Right I can’t claim the Biden people tricked G-d.. God’s will = The will of God, divine will, or God's plan is the concept of a God having a plan for humanity. Laban seems to say that God’s will is law: “Here is Rebekah before you; take her and go, and let her be a wife to your master’s son, as the Lord has spoken כַּאֲשֶׁר דִּבֶּר יְקֹוָק”
    I cannot claim that God’s will is for Trump to be POTUS 4 more years. Wicked Laban uses that kind of language: “The thing proceeded from the Lord מֵיְקֹוָק יָצָא הַדָּבָר; we cannot speak to you bad or good.”
    Abraham takes measures to ensure God’s will be realized in חיי שרה:
    “And Abraham said to the senior servant of his household זקן ביתו, who had charge of all that he owned המשל בכל אשר לו, Put your hand under my thigh and I will make you swear by the Lord, the God of heaven and the God of the earth, that you will not take a wife for my son from the daughters of the Canaanites among whom I dwell, but will go to the land of my birth אל ארצי ואל מולדתי תלך and get ולקחת a wife for my son Isaac.” (Genesis 24:2-4).
    Hertz Chumash p. 82: “daughters of the Canaanites. Who might divert Isaac from the path which his father had mapped out for him; cf xxvii, 1. This fear of the evil consequences which would result from intermarriage with heathens is frequently expressed in the Bible; e.g. Deut. Vii, 3f.”
    Sad American Jews are intermarrying. Bravo Trump’s daughter converted to Judaism. Laban in the midrash is a trickster. Looks to me Biden, the media, progressive Left are tricksters. Notice I’m now claiming from the beginning Susan in Aranoff v Aranoff is a trickster: “Susan won my pension, the $10,000 will money and the house through fraud.”

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  8. wow! conflating all sorts of things without proof just magical thinking or is it psychotic?

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  9. Well if, nowadays, a man can put on dress, take some hormones and be legally labelled a woman, then why can Joseph say Trump won?

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  10. The lesson Democrats should learn is this: despite fumbling CoVID, despite a deteriorating performance throughout 2020, despite the media abandoning any pretense of neutrality and objectivity and openly coming out and telling us who to vote for, despite all that Trump got 49% of the vote, the Republicans kept the Senate and they gained in the House.
    Now imagine what would have been if China hand't unleashed Kung Flu on the West. Democrats may be too stupid to realize this but Trump would've crushed any Democrat challenger and the GOP would've taken all of Congress easily.
    Biden ignores that at his peril.

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  11. Wow - nobody saw this brilliant observation!

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  12. Maybe if he first puts on a dress etc

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  13. So do you say a special bracha every day thanking God for CoVID and all the people it killed because that helped Trump lose the election?

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  14. “wow! conflating all sorts of things without proof just magical thinking or is it psychotic?” No.
    Psychotic disorders are severe mental disorders that cause abnormal thinking and perceptions. People with psychoses lose touch with reality. Two of the main symptoms are delusions and hallucinations
    Magical thinking = People with schizotypal personality disorder are often identified as having an eccentric personality. They might take magical thinking, superstitions, or paranoid thoughts very seriously, avoiding people whom they irrationally mistrust.
    See http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/290763
    “To be clear, Trump did not cause the crisis. It has two authors: The Democrats and the media. The Democrats fomented the crisis, which places America’s very future as a constitutional democracy on the line, when they refused to accept the results of the 2016 election. The media caused it by abandoning journalism in favor of political activism. Perhaps the most emblematic image of the 2020 elections came in the days leading up to Election Day. Footage surfaced of business owners in big cities throughout the country boarding up their windows to protect their property from the riots they expected to break out once the voting stations closed. The media’s treatment of the footage exposed their pathology. The shocking images, which revealed an expectation of political violence, received little coverage. And to the extent they were mentioned at all, the mention was as laconic as the weather report: Tomorrow will be partly cloudy, violent riots forecast for downtown beginning at nightfall, and scattered thundershowers are expected around 10 p.m. in the northwest suburbs. Newspapers and television networks didn’t ask the shop owners from whom they were protecting their property. But then, they didn’t need to ask. Everyone knew who the rioters were. Although the media and the Democrats have spent four years insisting that Trump supporters are violent, dangerous racists and Nazis, the merchants in Kenosha and Los Angeles didn’t post Trump election signs in their storefronts to win brownie points from the rioters. They posted signs of support for the looters. And they all hailed from Black Lives Matter, Antifa and allied Democrat voting groups. Trump’s supporters standing outside vote-counting centers in Philadelphia, Maricopa County and Detroit didn’t plan to protest after the election. Conservative activists only began organizing protests after Biden’s vote tallies magically rose vertically on Wednesday morning. In notable contrast, Biden’s supporters in Black Lives Matter and allied groups started posting detailed instructions to their supporters about where to gather and where to protest a week before Election Day. And late Tuesday night, the riots began on schedule in Washington, New York, Portland and Los Angeles. And they weren’t kneeling in prayer.”

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  15. more nonsense. Biden now has magical powers
    It was all known before that there would be red mirage but mainly Democratic mail in ballots would overcome it.

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  16. So you only think G-d runs the world when Trump wins?!

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  17. “more nonsense. Biden now has magical powers. It was all known before that there would be red mirage but mainly Democratic mail in ballots would overcome it.”
    No. I’m watching (and learning from in my Aranoff v Aranoff) how the Trump team handles the legal challenges to Biden. Notice that Biden has assimilation and Jewish Trump hatred. See http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/290817
    “According to the Washington Post, Melissa Cohen is the co-owner of Tribal Worlds, a company that works to “promote indigenous conservation” and is also a documentary filmmaker. Melissa is considered a critic of President Trump and even used harsh expressions against him after the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville. She tweeted at the time, "To those of you who voted for this POS you should be ashamed. That's all." According to the New Yorker, Melissa Cohen has a tattoo with the word "Shalom" in Hebrew on her bicep.” Biden's daughter, Ashley, is married to a Jewish doctor named Howard Krein. The couple married in 2012, two years after they met with the help of her brother, Beau Biden. They were married in an interfaith ceremony, which was officiated by a priest and a rabbi together.”
    Trump family has conversions to Judaism and love of Trump. Wow Jared has magical powers not Biden. We pray Trump four more years POTUS.

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  18. Proud Conservative MomNovember 11, 2020 at 9:09 PM

    Sublime posting.
    I am so sorry about your divorce.

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  19. Proud Conservative MomNovember 11, 2020 at 9:10 PM

    Very beautiful Dvar Torah!!

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  20. Torah thought on חיי שרה
    “Abraham accepted Ephron’s terms וישמע אברהם אל אפרון. Abraham paid out וישקל to Ephron the money הכסף that he had named in the hearing of the Hittites—four hundred shekels of silver at the going merchants’ rate עבר לסחר. So Ephron’s land ויקם שדה עפרון in Machpelah, near Mamre—the field and the cave which was therein, and all the trees that were in the field, that were in all the border thereof round about, were made sure, passed to Abraham as his possession לאברהם למקנה, in the presence of the Hittites, of all who entered the gate of his town [i.e., all his fellow townsmen] בכל באי שער עירו. And then Abraham buried his wife Sarah in the cave of the field of Machpelah, facing Mamre—now Hebron—in the land of Canaan. Thus the field with its cave were made sure ויקם השדה והמערה אשר בו unto Abraham for a possession of a burying place לאחזת קבר by the Hittites.” (Genesis 23:16-20).
    בראשית כ"ג י"ח
    לְאַבְרָהָם לְמִקְנָה לְעֵינֵי בְנֵי חֵת בְּכֹל בָּאֵי שַׁעַר עִירוֹ:
    רש"י
    בכל באי שער עירו - בקרב כולם ובמעמד כולם הקנהו לו:
    Hertz Chumash p. 82: “For generations, nay centuries, the children of Israel were to have no point of fixity save the sepulcher of the Patriarchs. The Cave of the Machpelah is regarded with immense veneration by the Mohammedans, who built a large mosque over it, and until recently altogether excluded both Jews and Christians from viewing it. A visit is still fraught with considerable difficulty for a Jew.”
    Abraham paid out the 400 large silver coins to Ephron and buried Sarah in the Cave of the Machpelah before all the people of the Hittites. I like the repetition ויקם שדה עפרון and לאברהם למקנה לעיני בני חת בכל באי שער עירו and
    ויקם השדה והמערה אשר בו לאברהם
    Were there fake news and hostile media in Abraham’s time? Abraham was king: “And the Hittites replied to Abraham, saying to him, Hear us, my lord: you are the elect of God נשיא אלקים among us. Bury your dead in the choicest of our burial places במבחר קברינו; none of us will withhold his burial place את קברו לא יכלה ממך from you for burying your dead מקבר מתך.” (Genesis 23:6).
    Abraham made efforts to make certain that Abraham and his descendants (us today) own that property for ever. Beautiful. Today we have cameras every place. See http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/291071
    “Mediaite reported that the video took place in Los Angeles, the day after Election Day. The ballots, which were deposited by Election Day, were valid and counted, per LA County officials.”
    See http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/291041
    “Biden's speechwriter gives Biden 'A+' for victory speech”
    See http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/290994
    “Video circulating on social media shows footage from an attempted stabbing of a Jew in Crown Heights, on Schenectady and Union, this past Saturday night. The Jewish victim required stitches. The New York Police Department is searching for the suspect.”
    Because of the videos the courts will rule in Trump's favor and punish felons. The wicked and the Progressive Left forgot about cameras every place.

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  21. “Trump will be a former president, whether he concedes or not.” No. I’m watching and learning from Trump’s legal team. Allow me my letter Nov. 10 to the NYS Court of Appeals:
    “3.Clearly it was in appropriate for Judge Michael A. Ambrosio to certify the legitimacy of the QDRO in 32 02/14/2007 Plaintiff MONEY JUDGMENT No Decided: 05/14/2007 PD - MOTION GRANTED Before Justice: MICHAEL A. AMBROSIO, 5B Memo 05/14/2007. Judge Michael A. Ambrosio was deeply involved in this case from the beginning and showed bias to Susan. He dismissed my documents proving Susan promised to join me in Israel. He dismissed Rabbi Kornfeld's letters and testimony that Susan should join me in Israel as she promised. He once wrote to me that I should first pay the $25,000 sanctions/fines against me and then, maybe, he'll hear my application to stay the sanctions/fines. I have evidence proving Judge Michael A. Ambrosio showed bias in favor of Susan. This evidence should over turn the QDRO Judge Michael A. Ambrosio certified as legitimate and legal. This is a rare opportunity for the Court to investigate a fraud charge against a judge. Usually this is not the job of the NYS Court of Appeals which usually just reviews lower court rulings.
    4.If the Court grants my Motion for stay QDRO/sanctions dated November 8, 2020 that had a return date November 23, 2020---that will block TIAA from paying Susan 55% of my pension. I'm trying to invalidate Judge Michael A. Ambrosio's certification of the QDRO in 2007. There were other acts of fraud in my case, such as the fake/phony Rigler 1995 Order of Separation and the fake/phony 2013 Prus civil divorce 9/10/2013 me and Susan. Even Judge Sand recognized that I divorced Susan 2/17/1993. I have every right to challenge the 2007 QDRO based on fraud. My motion is timely. Only now we see how fraudulent the 2007 QDRO is.”

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