https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51665497
When will we have a coronavirus vaccine?
A
vaccine would normally take years, if not decades, to develop.
Researchers hope to achieve the same amount of work in only a few
months.
Most experts think a vaccine is likely to become widely
available by mid-2021, about 12-18 months after the new virus, known
officially as Sars-CoV-2, first emerged.
That would be a huge scientific feat and there are no guarantees it will work.
Four
coronaviruses already circulate in human beings. They cause common cold
symptoms and we don't have vaccines for any of them.
"We don't have vaccines for any of them."
ReplyDeleteBut there was no compelling need to invest in and develop vaccines for viruses that result in a common cold and do no serious damage to the person's body while presenting no mortality risk. So that factoid often used to temper optimism regarding covid19 vaccines isn't really applicable. The desperate societal need and medical need for a covid19 vaccine (plus some potential monetary reward for any winner(s)) has compelled massive investment and development efforts against this virus. (Not a guarantee by any means, but just an entirely different scenario).
Three things are making me think Trump is going to pull this off.
ReplyDelete1. Biden refuses to surface. His holing up is killing his election chances. When Chris Wallace is dinging Biden for not coming on his show, that spells disaster for Biden. Biden's picking a black woman for running mate will hurt him; his failing to pick a Black woman will hurt him because he built up hope he will be picking a Black woman. But nothing will do him in like hiding out. And that is what he is doing: hiding out. Wallace has called out Biden on this. It won't be long till the whole liberal media joins the chorus of, "Why Won't Biden Come Out to Play With Us?"
2. The blood is literally running in.the streets of Chicago. There was a mass shooting today at a memorial. People are figuring out that defunding the police is a bad idea. Good thing Biden doesn't support defunding the police. The question is: how many people doubt that? If swing voters think Biden is lying, it's over for Biden.
3. The vaccine is made. It seems to be pretty good. It's being tested now in trials. It's being manufactured. If it is effective, we'll know by October. It'll still be months before it can be legally sold. But the vaccines are already stockpiled! People will be getting them on the Black Market. There will be a huge wave of euphoria as people get vaccinated. Trump will naturally take credit, as is his wont. This will boost his standings at exactly the point he needs it.
I cautiously give Trump a fighting chance even though he's down in the polls. Notice I didn't mention the debates. I think the debates will be a draw and will not impact the election much either way. Biden and Trump both have a lot of skill and experience standing at a podium. Although if Biden lashes out at Trump with one of his non-sequitors, and Trump merely deadpans into the camera, Biden will be finished. I hope for Biden's sake he doesn't fall into that trap.
a lot of magical thinking!
ReplyDeletewhat medical experts agree with your Trumpian trivialization for a virus that has killed 1400000 Americans 600,0000 worldwide even though it nothing more than a common cold?
ReplyDeleteNo, you have misunderstood what he wrote (and what I wrote ).
ReplyDeleteCorona virus is a class of viruses, not 1 single virus. The pandemic we are in now is one from that class , and is called covid 19.
Other viruses in this can cause common colds, whereas some have developed to be very dangerous - SARS, Ebola, mers.
Myth that was circulating at the beginning of a pandemic was that no previous vaccine has been developed for any coronavirus and that makes it more difficult for this one. That myth is False. A vaccine for Ebola (of the corona virus family) was approved in December 2019.
The sheker that sloppy media has been telling us "no vaccine has ever been successful for any coronavirus" is disproved - Ebola has its successful vaccine approved.
ReplyDeleteand therefore we have a vaccine?!
ReplyDeletewhere is the claim being made and when?
ReplyDeleteEbola is not a type of coronavirus. But that vaccine was created in response to an outbreak, so it is a helpful example of what can happen with severe societal need and dedicated investment.
ReplyDeleteHuh? You completely misunderstood my comment. Please reread it.
ReplyDeleteThis is at the bottom of your own post: "Four coronaviruses already circulate in human beings. They cause common cold symptoms and we don't have vaccines for any of them." Are you not reading the stuff that YOU post?
I commented on that and explained why there is no vaccine for common circulating coronaviruses that cause the common cold and how that has no bearing on whether or not we will successfully create a vaccine (or vaccines!) against SARS-Cov2 coronavirus!
I have never, EVER downplayed SARS-Cov2 on this site or anywhere else. That activity is the domain of our resident terrorist, Berel, who wishes to get more frum people killed by it.
I have tried to warn your readers and my community about SARS-CoV2 from the beginning!
This note of caution is in the article you posted!
ReplyDelete"Four coronaviruses already circulate in human beings. They cause common cold symptoms and we don't have vaccines for any of them."
Yes, we don't have vaccines, but there wasn't much pressing need for investment in them either. The common cold doesn't present a compelling medical need to combat it.
Biden does not have the election sewn up because he's ahead in the polls. All the polls have margins of error. Even with Biden ahead by double digits, Trump still has a chance of winning.
ReplyDeleteYes. There are vaccines that are proving promising. The people telling us this are in the vaccine business. It's not all hype.
ReplyDeleteOK - my mistake, thanks for the correction.
ReplyDeleteMy mistake : Biotech has corrected my statement. Ebola is a different class of virus from the coronaviruses.
ReplyDeleteNot therefore .
ReplyDeleteSome good data coming from vaccine trials. But their effect may be short lived.
And had it made its way out of Africa, you can bet there would have been a ton more companies working on it! But even remaining confined to Africa, it was deadly/severe enough that a good handful of companies and organizations made a strong effort.
ReplyDeleteIn general, vaccines have not been hot areas in pharma industry, leading up to this pandemic. One of the Universities in UK (Imperial College London) who are developing a vaccines were saying that prior to the outbreak, nobody was interested in funding their coronavirus (general class) vaccine research.
ReplyDeleteThe shock that has hit the world economy may well boost this area of research, in fact it already has.