NY Times An outspoken advocate for child sexual abuse victims in the Satmar Hasidic community was injured by a chemical he believed to be bleach that was thrown in his face as he walked down the street in his Williamsburg, Brooklyn, neighborhood on Tuesday.
The advocate, Rabbi Nuchem Rosenberg, who runs a Web site and telephone call-in line that publicizes claims of sexual abuse in the ultra-Orthodox community, said in an interview at the hospital where he was treated that he was walking on Roebling Street about noon when a man came up behind him and tapped him on the shoulder.
“He has a cup of bleach,” Rabbi Rosenberg said, adding that he recognized the man. “And then he says ‘whoops’ and throws it in my face and walks off.”
“He has a cup of bleach,” Rabbi Rosenberg said, adding that he recognized the man. “And then he says ‘whoops’ and throws it in my face and walks off.”
The issue of haredi violence is nothing new.
ReplyDeleteIn Yemen, the father of R Yosef Kapach, was murdered by Yemenite Haredi kabbalists, thru the agency of the muslim salafists to whom he was handed over. The young Yosef was also handed over to them to be raised as muslim, since he was orphaned.
How did this one guy get to be so different from the rest of his community, so outspoken,so aware of the issue?
ReplyDeleteThis man has some very unsavory chaverim .He has this gay rights activist,Chaim Levin and the woman who went on the Oprah Winfrey Show to say Jewish people kill and eat babies .(This is even on You Tube) .He told CNN that one child in six are (Rachmana L"Tzlan) abused .They were eager to accept that as a correct statistic in order to besmirch that poor community's reputation.This helps people how exactly ?
ReplyDeleteNoshie63,
ReplyDeleteWhat have you been noshing on?
Prove your allegation that he has connections with the rasha Chaim Levin and this other baby eater lady. Sounds like wild eyed nonsense.
The number of children abused is not known.
How was the community that supported a pedophile besmirched? The kosher ones among them certainly don't support this. However, the ones who do support it are asid litain es hadin.
I saw a photo of him with Chaim Levin and the Vicky Polin who had gone on the Oprah Winfrey Show and said her parents belonged to a Jewish cult that drank baby blood after killing them.Wild eyed nonsense indeed !But you are being very unfair.I told you where to look (you tube)or "google" it.If you thing it is a fiction created by me please do me the courtesy of simply looking it up.I don't agree with you at all.Many kosher ones simply believed he was innocent and wrongly supported them .People who jump to convict or judge people LKAF CHOV-asid litain es hadin.
ReplyDeleteLook on Levin's blog as well.
ReplyDeleteCheck Chaim Levin's twitter account.See for yourself.
ReplyDeleteRosenberg tweeted,"RABBIS AND PIGS ARE THE SAME GARBAGE".Reported today in THE NEW YORK POST
ReplyDeleteHe categorically denied tweeting such a thing and says someone else has a twitter account in his name.
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEhClE5qkjk
Deletein which he denies tweeting such a thing
But does he deny having an association with Vicky Polin and Chaim Levin ?How many accusations without convictions has Polin made against innocent rabbis.He works with her!And she did go on national television and say her parents murdered babies and drank their blood.It is right on you tube.If this is who Rosenberg is associated with why would anybody trust him?I will never go along with hurting people solely on the basis of an accusation .People have a right to defend themselves just as we have an obligation to listen to victims.
ReplyDeleteWhy do you keep insisting that he is discredited because you claim he was in a picture with those you don't like?
DeleteIf you have any claims against what he has done then please state them and the evidence you have.
Fair enough.He held a conference in a police precinct in Brooklyn which was organized by the discredited Awareness Center.That conference was taped and posted on you tube.I will see if it is still on.But Vicky Polin is still on about the vampire accusations.It was the first time I ever saw him Rosenberg.With those I "don't like".How can anybody like a person who goes on national television (Polin) and call Jewish people baby killers and vampires.Publishing guilty verdicts is one thing.Publishing unproven accusations is another.If the din is different please correct me.
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ReplyDeleteI searched for Nuchem and Chaim and could not find them together.
I did a search of Levin's blog and I didn't find Nuchem there either.
Instead of flinging unfounded accusations, why don't you provide the links?
Did you deny your association with Chaim Levin and Vicky Polin? Obviously not because you have no connection. The same is true for Nuchem.
Well I guess you did not check FACEBOOK because Chaim Levin says he has been with Nachum many times.CHAIM LEVIN FACEBOOK.That wasn't too hard for me to find .Why is it so hard for you to find it.I proved every single thing I have said with documentation available to everybody.Everything!
DeleteMy evidence-Press event,Nov.23,2008.90th Precinct Brooklyn ,New York.Rabbi Nachum Rosenberg with Vicky Polin-You Tube
ReplyDeleteMay 1,1989.Vicky Polin-Jewish Satanic Ritual Survivor,Oprah Winfrey Show-Harpo Productions-See You Tube......"with those you don't like".Daas Torah ,how could anybody like her?
ReplyDeleteNoshie63 - what is your point? are you saying that because there is an association of some type that his activities are not valid? Instead of simply smearing someone by association - why don't you stick to the issues. Do you have any complaints about his activities as a child advocate?
ReplyDeleteI feel that the proper way to handle these issues if they warrant it is the NYPD and the DA not CNN.I believe CNN has an agenda to target those groups that oppose gay marriage such as Orthodox Jewry.Anderson Cooper is a known gay man and supporter of gay rights .Rosenburg gave statistics like 1 in 6 children in Williamsburg are victims of molestation. Daas Torah is a forum for internal debate and I am hoping enlightenment and solutions.CNN is a Jew hating,Orthodox bashing news outlet and Rabbi Rosenberg should not be shoveling dirt on our community on Anderson Cooper's show.2)Association is very important.The Awareness Center is an awesomely wicked organization.If they were to tape my comments for any agenda I had I would not blame anybody for being against me.
ReplyDeleteNoshie63,
ReplyDeleteI'm not chasing your search terms anymore because they don't work.
I couldn't find any of your references. Either provide links or I'll assume you're just blowing smoke.
Furthermore Daas Torah you have proven all your points by citing poskim in a very compelling manner.Is there a thshuva about running to the Sonei Yisrael in the media with information that I doubt is accurate and will destroy the esteem of the Jewish Nation in the eyes of the nations.If things get out it is on the molestors .But to go to them, to CNN???Show us a tshuva that says this type of denigrating and humiliating activity is mutar?
ReplyDeleteI can't believe you can't find CHAIM LEVIN FACEBOOK or at least Google...use google. Vicky Polin "Jewish Satanic Ritual Survivor-Oprah Winfrey".Luke Ford has a link..I just saw this.
ReplyDelete"Vicky Polin Oprah" stick those words in the search engine and the you tube clip will appear.I just did it and it worked for me.Three words.It is not difficult at all.
ReplyDeleteSo copy and paste the link already!!!
Deletehttp://www.ripoffreport.com/sex-offenders/vicki-polin-awarenes/vicki-polin-awareness-center-f-bpmm7.htm
DeleteYou're confusing Gary Rosenblatt of the Weak Jew with Nuchem.
ReplyDeleteProvide a link. Without a link, I know you are just following rumors.
NOSHIE63 is making a lot noise, making a big mish-mash of everything, creating lots of red herrings, and showing that he doesn't have a clue how to think, speak or argue logically, clearly or honestly. His tone is as if he is always addressing a lynch mob who should then go and hang it's victim on the nearest tree or lamp pole.
ReplyDeleteIt should be quite evident that Vicki Polin is not playing with a full deck. She is evidently a baalas teshiva with some pretty wild claims. Even Jews can sink to the lowest levels and it could be possible that Ms. Polin at some point in her life was exposed to Jews participating in so-called Satanic rituals. There are Devil worshipers and they do very weird things, after all Yiddishkeit does not deny the existence of the Soton, sheidim and all evil. So Ms. Polin may or may not have been part of this and even seen it.
But the problem is that Ms. Polin went on national television and helped Oprah make one of the most famous blood libels implied against ALL Jews. The problem was Oprah Winfrey who chose and allowed a troubled person like Vicki Polin go on her show and it became well-known. Yet that does not mean that everything Oprah has said is evil or useless. She has created awareness about child abuse and has been one of the main people who has increased public awareness of it by speaking of the alleged abuse she herself suffered as as child. Some of the allegations have been proven false, and some are true, but Oprah has increased public awareness of sexual child abuse.
Same thing with Vicki Polin, while she exhibits, and admits to, lots of personal demons and deep seated problems in her own life when she talks about it in public, nevertheless when she founded and ran the Awareness Center it was one of the first attempts to open up the long hidden dark closets and shine the light on notable rabbis who are sexual abusers and perverts. Not a bad thing! She is not perfect, but she has been an important pioneer in creating awareness in the American Charedi and Orthodox world that sexual abusers can come from "respectable" rabbis and they need to be outed and thereby stopped in order to help victims and to prevent more victims from falling into their hands.
If Nuchem Rosenberg has been on CNN and Anderson Cooper asks him questions, so what? Most of TV and movie people are corrupt. That's not the point. 99.9999% of the time EVERYONE knows that Nuchem Rosenberg is right on the mark -- that is why he frightens so many wrongdoers, like Meir Kahane z"l, he says what everyone thinks. He has taken great risks to defy his own Satmar community. He speaks truth to power. It is illogical to "pasul" him because he will speak out in every venue. He is the "town crier" -- no matter where that will take him. Politics makes for some strange bedfellows, and may time Aguda and Satmar will team up with the Catholic church on legislation. Chasidisha rebbes supported the Clintons, even though the Clintons are the sleaziest pols on the face of the Earth. etc etc etc. So this is not an argument, because when lobbying you team up with any ferd on the street who can help pull your wagon!!
Not sure why someone here called Chaim Levin a "rosha" he has always spoken in the same way that Rav Avigdor Miller z"l did against homosexuals and makes that the litmus test of everything. If there something about him that is wrong or he has done wrong, then it should be known. Right now, he is just a guy with a loud voice who likes to be a media hound and he is not even good at that.
Correction, my error, the person I was referring to is Rabbi YEHUDA Levin and NOT Chaim Levin. I have no idea who Chaim Levin is, can someone tell us please. Thank you.
DeleteNo ,no.The blame is not on the very respected Oprah Winfrey.It is on Vicki Polin.To call her a baalas tshuva is a slap in the face to true Baalei Tshuva everywhere !You seem to minimize the fact that Polin claimed that Jewish people slaughtered babies and ate them.I am sorry but you cannot minimize tell the people of the United States of America that Jewish people kill and eat babies.That is some serious stuff.There is a link to her on Rabbi Nachum Rosenberg's website.The fact that we believe that there is a Satan,Shedim ,etc. is irrelevant.If there is a child victim I will go to bat and ally myself with him or her 200%.But if the aim is to throw a net on the innocent as well as the guilty they will find no worse enemy than myself.I will always defend innocent Jews everywhere !
DeleteNuchem Rosenberg said 20% of children in Williamsburg are molested.This is a defamation of an entire community.What normal parent would permit this.And he said it on a forum that loves dirt on the frum community.They are gleeful .Don't confuse helping victims with helping those who seek to use the media against the frum community.The motivations are different.Now as to claiming that he did not make the comment on Twitter I want to check and see if that account is still active because if it is something is rotten in the State of Brooklyn.
DeleteI did it! I found some links:
ReplyDeletewww.google.com
http://www.lukeford.net/profiles/profiles/vicki_polin.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsTm46RzVh8
So? Who cares about Vicki Polin all of a sudden? Two wrongs do not make a right!
DeleteThe subject here is this guy Weberman, and how people like Nuchem Rosenberg speak out ANYWHERE THEY CAN against pedophiles like Weberman in the Chasidisha communities. It happens to be that Polin speaks out about such things in the media. But Polin is NOT Nuchem Rosenberg.
And even so, no one has the right to walk over to another person and throw acid in their face. That is the way of gangsters and the Mafia and it will only lead to yet another Satmar "tzadik" sitting in jail when Rosenberg will press charges and testify against him.
Of course, they will shout "mesira" which brings us back to the original problem that abuse is not reported because it is "mesira" and when it is reported, the victim becomes the "guilty" party and the gangsters are the "martyrs" in this topsy turvy oilem goilem oilem hofuch!
But things they are a changin'...'cause change is in the air!
I am not tech savvy in the least and these people were too lazy to do what you did.They prefer to lie rather than research .Moshe Laymore you are a good and decent Yid!Thank you!
DeleteMoshe Laymore,
ReplyDeleteThere is no reference to Nuchem in your lukeford link.
The youtube video also has nothing to do with Nuchem.
All who advance complaints against Nuchem from these sources are charlatans and rabble rousers with no good intent.
Many of the videos of Rabbi Nachhum Rosenberg were produced by THE AWARENESS CENTER and can be seen on you tube.If you are not interested in finding them then that is on you .If Weberman was associated with NAMBLA that would have been mentioned and rightly so.Rosenberg's affiliation with this group is nothing to be dismissive of.
DeleteYou're right. They are both about Vicky P.
ReplyDeleteIf you can't link Nochum to her with Google then there is no connection. I can't play with Google all day and I didn't try to find a link to link them.
Moshe Laymore.You mean you can't simply google the words "Rabbi Nuchem Rosenberg" into a search engine.Look at his site and see his link to Vicki Polin's site.That took me an entire two seconds.Why would you need to play with google the whole day to search for it?
DeleteAll you have to do is go to Rabbi Nuchem Rosenberg's site.Even without a link one would have to be either very stupid or lazy not to find the link of Rabbi Nachum Rosenberg.HE HAS A LINK TO HER SITE ON HIS SITE.He accepted awards from Vicky Polin .@DasTorah.Vicki Polin had a nice photograph and short bio of the "Moshe" as in YADMOSHE on her website.That looked to me like "guilt by association".You say I am trying to taint Rabbi Rosenberg by associatimg him with Vicky Polin and Chaim Levin.He tainted himself by posting links to her site on his site and making video clips with her.She destroyed the lives of some of my Rebbeim who were never convicted of anything or even brought to court.
ReplyDeleteThere is a site called NUCHEM IS RIGHT.They have videos of Rabbi Rosenberg.The entire thing was produced by Vicki Polin. It says right on the video.Produced by The Awareness Center.For those people who don't want to believe me or are too lazy to put the three words into their search engine (NUCHEM IS RIGHT) I cannot help you further.I did my best.
ReplyDeleteNoshie63,
ReplyDeleteGive it up already. You're only making it worse. Why should Nuchem be guilty because the crazy rishante Polin links to him? Do you think she would listen if he told her to take her links down?
Nuchem is right but not perfect. Sometimes he associates with those that he should avoid. However, his basic message is right and true and is intended to protect the poor victims of abuse as well as the general public.
You have it backwards.He links to her!That is why we need guidance ,more guidance on what is allowed and what is not.
DeleteAPOLOGY-The other site is called "Rabbi Nuchem Rosenberg's Hotline".I omitted the word Hotline.
ReplyDeleteWhile I can’t speak about this parsha about the causes, or what the issues were because I really dont know the details of this parsha or what exacerbated this story One thing I can say is that there are some in the community who are lunatics and are hellbent on being idiots.It seems sheer lunacy to abuse someone or hurt someone because of their outspoken nature. Nuchem Rosenberg has a right to speak . freedom of expression is the idea that every individual should be able to decide for him or herself which opinions and information are of value and worth sharing with others.a community should not impose on its members a duty to express information or opinions which they do not support or consider false or useless. There are a number of men in the community who can’t conceive other people as having open minds, who think they have the exclusive rights to a culture of thinking and that talking about things considered controversial topics is exclusive of ambition, independence, and intelligence. All this has to change and it will change we live in america not a gulag or under some dictatorship. It seems sheer lunacy to abuse someone because he talks, you dont have to listen to him, dont listen to his hotline or dont read his blogs, but you have no right to abuse him or do violant things to him, this attitudes and behavior has to change and will change god willing
ReplyDeleteNoshie63,
ReplyDeleteWhy don't you back up your arguments by showing us people that he has wrongly accused or callously slandered? Why is his pursuit of those that protect and cover for the pedophiles and those that cover for them wrong?
While I can’t speak about this parsha about the causes, or what the issues were because I really dont know the details of this parsha or what exacerbated this story One thing I can say is that there are some in the community who are lunatics and are hellbent on being idiots.It seems sheer lunacy to abuse someone or hurt someone because of their outspoken nature. Nuchem Rosenberg has a right to speak . freedom of expression is the idea that every individual should be able to decide for him or herself which opinions and information are of value and worth sharing with others.a community should not impose on its members a duty to express information or opinions which they do not support or consider false or useless. There are a number of men in the community who can’t conceive other people as having open minds, who think they have the exclusive rights to a culture of thinking and that talking about things considered controversial topics is exclusive of ambition, independence, and intelligence. All this has to change and it will change we live in america not a gulag or under some dictatorship. It seems sheer lunacy to abuse someone because he talks, you dont have to listen to him, dont listen to his hotline or dont read his blogs, but you have no right to abuse him or do violant things to him, this attitudes and behavior has to change and will change god willing
ReplyDeleteI never said he slandered anybody.I only said that he must act within that which is allowed.I don't think associating with defamers is allowed.I don't think speaking about these topics to people who are not our friends like gay rights activists on Cnn is allowed.The administrator on the blog will clear up these issues for us.
ReplyDeleteI never said he slandered anybody.I only said that he must act within that which is allowed.I don't think associating with defamers is allowed.I don't think speaking about these topics to people who are not our friends like gay rights activists on Cnn is allowed.The administrator on the blog Daas Torah will clear up these issues for us.
ReplyDeleteAlso it doesn't seem to be allowed to live in Williamsburg .He will stand up to bullies and those who are trying to harm him .He receives death threats and we have seen an attack that could have been much worse.If you are in a makom sakanah you must move.He is showing,very bravely that he won't be intimidated but I don't think the din is with him.
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