If he was an orthodox rabbi he would still has its job. =============== There was the comparable case of Israel Kestenbaum - an Orthodox Rabbi who was caught in a sting operation and he lost his job.
http://www.davidjzucker.org/djzBTST/btst7.htm BETRAYING THEIR SACRED TRUST ¾ End Notes
[1] The National Association of Jewish Chaplains dealt with one of its own rabbi/chaplains. Rabbi Israel Kestenbaum violated the NAJC bylaws regarding Ethics. As explained in the November 2003 NAJC News Letter:
The “NAJC Board of Directors voted to remove Rabbi Israel Kestenbaum’s Certification to function as a Jewish Chaplain, and to expel him from the National Association of Jewish Chaplains.”
In that same News Letter, the “Statement of Findings concerning Rabbi Kestenbaum” explained that:
3) On August 12, 2003 Rabbi Israel Kestenbaum pleaded guilty to "Endangering the Welfare of a Child," and "Attempted Dissemination of Indecent Material to a Minor in the First Degree." Further, he agreed to register as a sex offender as part of these pleadings. 4) Some of the acts to which Rabbi Kestenbaum pleaded guilty were allegedly conducted at the location and during the hours which Rabbi Kestenbaum was the director of the New York Board of Rabbi's Jewish Center for Spiritual Care. This, on its face, is an ethical violation of the NAJC by-laws. 5) Pleading guilty to child endangerment and being placed on probation, on its face, are also clear violations of the NAJC ethics as defined in our by-laws. 6) On October 8, 2003, the NAJC Board of Directors found Rabbi Israel Kestenbaum in violation of the NAJC by-laws regarding ethics. 7) Notice is hereby given that the NAJC Board of Directors voted on October 8, 2003 to remove Rabbi Israel Kestenbaum's Certification to function as a Jewish Chaplain, and to expel him from the National Association of Jewish Chaplains (emphasis in original).
In the investigation, it was reported that Rabbi Kestenbaum made these phone calls during work time, and he used the phone that belonged to the New York Board of Rabbis. Further, he gave out the office number of the New York Board of Rabbis, as the place to contact him.
Do you know any case of an Orthodox rabbi caught publicly like this who wasn't fired?
He is a Conservative rabbi. Before that, he was a teacher in a Conservative Hebrew school that I attended. I never had him as a teacher, but I'll never forget that he always hosted the Purim carnival costume party dressed as "Super Kaye" with a K on his shirt and a cape (like Superman with an S). We kids loved it. He made Purim lots of fun.
I was shocked when I found out this news a few years ago.
Why do you give him the honorific title of "Rabbi", without tempering it with stating his affiliation with the Conservative movement. The title should more appropriately read: "Conservative Rabbi Pedophile David Kaye trapped by Dateline TV"
And wouldn't you know it, it turned out he was gay.
I would guess that what this man has been through since this happened, between the public humiliation and the lengthy prison term, makes Hell seem like a Purim carnival.
Douglas, he isn't gay; he's a pederast (a.k.a. a child molester) who prefers male victims. Most sexual abusers who abuse young boys are heterosexually-identified males, often married or romantically involved with women. Pedophilia and homosexuality are different things.
Absolutely shameful. It's sickening. Glad he's in jail. People like him, are why people lose faith in their religions. I hope the Jewish community wastes no time shutting him out, unlike the Catholics, who just move him to another area, all expenses paid to rape more kids.
They forgave him and welcomed him back into their church. Sounds as if they really follow what the preach, about not judging and being compassionate, since we all have our failures(though this is a horrible one). I hope he's living for God and that things are going well for him because of it.
He sent the boy pics or videos of himself sucking another grown man off. Does that mean he's straight but just does that for a different reason other than attraction too? Nobody is gay. Those who do gay things are giving into perversions they developed. No different than pedophilia
They're exactly the same thing- perversions developed through desensitation of going down a road deeper and deeper into what is not natural. And he does commit gay perversions with adults too. He sent the boy pics of himself doing it to show him.... "Gay" people commonly Are child molesters, and even more commonly vice versa, since if they were willing to engage in gay perversions they're much more likely to be willing to engage in other perversions as well.
You think hell compares to that? What are you, an atheist? And who says he's going to hell? What are you, god? Are your sins better than his? You're the one who is so high you're able to give weight to the evilness of each man's sins? Do you even know this man, to be judging his eternal standing based on more than a single event in his life?
Wrong. He sent pics of him and another guy. Too bad they didn´t raid his house and took his computer to look into his family album. He´d be another Coronel Williams
He was there to meet a 13 year old boy.
ReplyDeleteWho is this guy, a reform rabbi? A congregation leader?
If he was an orthodox rabbi he would still has its job.
ReplyDeleteYehuda said...
ReplyDeleteIf he was an orthodox rabbi he would still has its job.
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There was the comparable case of Israel Kestenbaum - an Orthodox Rabbi who was caught in a sting operation and he lost his job.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/22/nyregion/rabbi-ethics-overseer-denies-child-pornography-charges.html
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http://www.davidjzucker.org/djzBTST/btst7.htm
BETRAYING THEIR SACRED TRUST ¾ End Notes
[1] The National Association of Jewish Chaplains dealt with one of its own rabbi/chaplains. Rabbi Israel Kestenbaum violated the NAJC bylaws regarding Ethics. As explained in the November 2003 NAJC News Letter:
The “NAJC Board of Directors voted to remove Rabbi Israel Kestenbaum’s Certification to function as a Jewish Chaplain, and to expel him from the National Association of Jewish Chaplains.”
In that same News Letter, the “Statement of Findings concerning Rabbi Kestenbaum” explained that:
3) On August 12, 2003 Rabbi Israel Kestenbaum pleaded guilty to "Endangering
the Welfare of a Child," and "Attempted Dissemination of Indecent Material to a Minor in the First Degree." Further, he agreed to register as a sex offender as part of these pleadings.
4) Some of the acts to which Rabbi Kestenbaum pleaded guilty were allegedly conducted at the location and during the hours which Rabbi Kestenbaum was the director of the New York Board of Rabbi's Jewish Center for Spiritual Care. This, on its face, is an ethical violation of the NAJC by-laws.
5) Pleading guilty to child endangerment and being placed on probation, on its face, are also clear violations of the NAJC ethics as defined in our by-laws.
6) On October 8, 2003, the NAJC Board of Directors found Rabbi Israel Kestenbaum in violation of the NAJC by-laws regarding ethics.
7) Notice is hereby given that the NAJC Board of Directors voted on October 8, 2003 to remove Rabbi Israel Kestenbaum's Certification to function as a Jewish Chaplain, and to expel him from the National Association of Jewish Chaplains (emphasis in original).
In the investigation, it was reported that Rabbi Kestenbaum made these phone calls during work time, and he used the phone that belonged to the New York Board of Rabbis. Further, he gave out the office number of the New York Board of Rabbis, as the place to contact him.
Do you know any case of an Orthodox rabbi caught publicly like this who wasn't fired?
He is a Conservative rabbi. Before that, he was a teacher in a Conservative Hebrew school that I attended. I never had him as a teacher, but I'll never forget that he always hosted the Purim carnival costume party dressed as "Super Kaye" with a K on his shirt and a cape (like Superman with an S). We kids loved it. He made Purim lots of fun.
ReplyDeleteI was shocked when I found out this news a few years ago.
Why do you give him the honorific title of "Rabbi", without tempering it with stating his affiliation with the Conservative movement. The title should more appropriately read:
ReplyDelete"Conservative Rabbi Pedophile David Kaye trapped by Dateline TV"
It is less about Ortho vs. Conservative, and more about absolute power corrupting absolutely.
ReplyDeleteAnd wouldn't you know it, it turned out he was gay.
ReplyDeleteI would guess that what this man has been through since this happened, between the public humiliation and the lengthy prison term, makes Hell seem like a Purim carnival.
Douglas, he's not gay, he's a pederast (aka child molester) who prefers male victims. The two are very different things.
DeleteDouglas, he isn't gay; he's a pederast (a.k.a. a child molester) who prefers male victims. Most sexual abusers who abuse young boys are heterosexually-identified males, often married or romantically involved with women. Pedophilia and homosexuality are different things.
DeleteAbsolutely shameful. It's sickening. Glad he's in jail. People like him, are why people lose faith in their religions. I hope the Jewish community wastes no time shutting him out, unlike the Catholics, who just move him to another area, all expenses paid to rape more kids.
ReplyDeleteThey forgave him and welcomed him back into their church. Sounds as if they really follow what the preach, about not judging and being compassionate, since we all have our failures(though this is a horrible one). I hope he's living for God and that things are going well for him because of it.
ReplyDeleteHe sent the boy pics or videos of himself sucking another grown man off. Does that mean he's straight but just does that for a different reason other than attraction too? Nobody is gay. Those who do gay things are giving into perversions they developed. No different than pedophilia
ReplyDeleteThey're exactly the same thing- perversions developed through desensitation of going down a road deeper and deeper into what is not natural. And he does commit gay perversions with adults too. He sent the boy pics of himself doing it to show him.... "Gay" people commonly Are child molesters, and even more commonly vice versa, since if they were willing to engage in gay perversions they're much more likely to be willing to engage in other perversions as well.
ReplyDeleteYou think hell compares to that? What are you, an atheist? And who says he's going to hell? What are you, god? Are your sins better than his? You're the one who is so high you're able to give weight to the evilness of each man's sins? Do you even know this man, to be judging his eternal standing based on more than a single event in his life?
ReplyDeleteWrong. He sent pics of him and another guy. Too bad they didn´t raid his house and took his computer to look into his family album. He´d be another Coronel Williams
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