Thursday, April 14, 2011

Rav Shlomo Fisher - authority is bottom up from acceptance of people

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5 comments :

  1. Can you tell us something about Rabbi Shlomo Fisher?

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  2. There are a number of posts both on the source of Talmudic law, and its authority.

    Rambam also in his intro to the Yad makes the same point - that the Talmud is only valid because it was accepted by Klal Yisrael.

    So what if:

    a) We hadn't accepted it ? Certainly some tribes did not accept it.

    b) And what if at some stage , again Klal Yisrael decides to reject it?
    If we have the power to accept, we also have the power to reject.


    There is a view, which I have heard int he name of Rav Kook, that the Hamon or the people decide which way halacha goes. How this is formulated, I am not sure, but certain things, eg women's education was decided by the people, and when it reached the tipping point, gained halachic legitimacy. Same goes with forbidding smoking; same goes with Zionism or the concept of a Jewish state, an army, etc etc.

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  3. Where can we find the rest?

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  4. o what if:

    a) We hadn't accepted it ? Certainly some tribes did not accept it.

    b) And what if at some stage , again Klal Yisrael decides to reject it?
    If we have the power to accept, we also have the power to reject.
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    Good questions - which the Chazon Ish actually asked to Rav Wasserman. I'll try and find the discussion

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  5. sb said...

    Where can we find the rest?

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    This is in Rav Shlomo Fisher's sefer which he sells in Har Nof where he lives. Not sure if it is available in seform stories

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