https://mishpacha.com/the-bang-and-the-whimper/
By “welcoming people as they are,” the Conservative movement is declaring that they accept intermarriage
Two questions seem not to have occurred to this blue-ribbon committee: a) if they wish to “engage” (whatever that means) those who want to “build Jewish lives,” how is it that the desire to build Jewish lives was not strong enough to deter them from marrying out of our faith? And b) did the committee ever wonder why it is that among Orthodox Jews, intermarriage is practically nonexistent? Could it be that for the Orthodox, the performance of mitzvos is a must , as is intensive Torah study, as is strong prayer and family life, as is unequivocal disapproval of interdating and intermarriage? Could it be that for the Orthodox, observance of Judaism is not the subject of consensus from focal groups and listening sessions, but instead emanates from Above? Which leads to another point: The news release is very verbose, but one word is missing. That word is “G-d.”
Were machlon and chilion Conservative?
ReplyDeleteWhat about Naomi?
Did Ruth undergo a conservative conversion for her first husband?
It's not so straightforward..
https://www.jpost.com/judaism/article-883431
Another reason they don't teach Tanach in yeshiva.
DeleteOtherwise someone might ask "Since we learn about conversion from what Rus said to Naomi and since she said that after she'd already married a Jew, doesn't that mean it was an intermarriage since she hadn't converted yet?"
TaNaCh stands for Torah, Neviim and Kesuvim. Torah is taught in yeshiva. You are an idiot.
DeleteSo you admit that Neviim and Ketuvim are not taught?
DeleteHe would appear to be.
DeleteMishpacha is being a bit disingenuous. There is no Orthodox intermarriage because the minute you intermarry, you're no longer Orthodox. The real question is: how many people growing up in Orthodox homes drop out and intermarry? That number is kept very quiet.
ReplyDeleteThe other thing to remember is that there is no authority in the JTS or it's rabbinical assembly. Their voting system is such that if it's not a unanimous vote, both opinions are accepted so as not to exclude anyone. So if a vote against intermarriage is 99-1, then the rule is "No intermarriage, unless you want to."
Also, individual synagogues have their own ritual committees which have no obligation to obey JTS dictates. They can have their own little votes.
A few years ago I stumbled across an announcement sheet from the synagogue I grew up in and in the Mazel Tov section there was "To Tiffany Goldberg on her upcoming marriage to Jamal Warner." Uh huh.
The bottom line is that they have a 80% intermarriage rate so standing their ground would led to massive defections to Reform. Instead, they legitimize what they can't stop.