Concerning the Feminist
Movement (translation is copyrighted)
Igros Moshe (O.C.
4:49):Question: Concerning the international Feminist movement and in
particular the religious women who want to fight against matters that are
governed by Torah - for example some wish to pray in a talis - you want to know
my views concerning this and how to respond to it?
Answer: First of all it is
necessary to know that it is one of the foundations of our pure faith that the
entire Torah - both Written or Oral were
given by G-d Himself at Mt. Sinai through Moshe Rabbeinu. And that it is
impossible to change even the smallest detail - either for leniency or
strictness. However we have been commanded that when there is the need for
protective measures and decrees then the Sanhedrin and Torah scholars are to
make decrees prohibiting certain matters or to obligate doing certain matters -
with the clear understanding that this is only an emergency matter for a
paricular crises. However from the time we have been scattered in Exile all
over the world, we no longer have this ability to impose measures on the entire
Jewish nation. But we still retain the ability on the local level for the
scholars to make decrees for their communities – but only for a short time.
Consequently this that the Torah
exempts women from time- bound commandments - is a Torah law. And the rabbis
have not made a decree to obligate them because they did not see any necessity
to do so. In fact they clearly understand the need to exempt them for the
reasons that the Torah exempts them as well as for reasons which are not known
to the masses or even to great scholars. And we are required to believe that
G-d the giver of the Torah has great reasons.
There are reasons that the masses understand e.g., that the average
woman is not rich and she has the obligation to raise the children which is a
task which is most important to G-d and to the Torah. Furthermore G-d created the
nature in every specieis of living
things that the female raise the children - and man is no exception - and woman
are the most suitable to raise the children. Because of this they have the
leniency of not being obligated in Torah study as well as time bound mitzvos.
Therefore even if the nature of
society changes even for all women and the rich in every generation and it is
possible to give the task of raising the children to certain men and women such
as in our country - the Torah law does not change and not even a rabbinic law.
Therefore it doesn't help to have
any campaigns concerning this matter - because we have absolutely no ability to
change the halacha - even if the entire world
agrees. Consequently those women who are stubborn and want to fight to bring
about change in these matters are considered deniers (kofrim) against the
Torah.
Look at the Rambam(Hilchos Teshuva
3:8), There are three who are called deniers
in the Torah. 1) One who says that there is even one word that Moshe
wrote in the Torah on his own initiative 2) One who denies an explanation which
is part of the Oral Torah 3) And one who says that G-d changed a mitzva. Each of these three is a denier of Torah and does not have a
portion of the World to Come. Even though the Rambam says that “One who says
that G-d changed a mitzva,” it is obviously telling us that the same applies even if a person claims that
man has the ability to change a mitzva. That is because it is also saying that
the Torah is not eternal and there a number of verses which teach us that the
Torah is eternal as the Kesef Mishna explains.
It is a fact that all women can
fulfill even the mitzvos that the Torah doesn't obligate and they are regarded
as keeping the mitzva and they also receive reward for doing these mitzvos. In
addition, according to the view of Tosfos, they also can say the beracha on
these mitzvos. According to our custom they fulfil the mitzva of Shofer and
Lulav and they also say the appropriate beracha. Even the mitzvva of tzitzis,
it is relevant for a woman to keep - as long as the garment has a different appearence than that worn by men
- if she wears a four cornered garment
that she put tzitzis on it. It is only problematic if she wants to put on
tefillin - as Tosfos (Eiruvin 96a) states that it is necessary to protest women
wearing Tefilin because extra care is
required to ensure that the body is clean and that it is necessary to be aware
at all times that the person is wearing tefilin. In fact it is because of these
concerns that men who are obligated to wear tefilin all day only wear tefilin
the short tiime while they are saying the morning prayers. That in fact is the psak
of the Rema (O.C. 38:3). An additional problem is that the Targum Yonasan on
the verse "that a woman should not wear that which is worn by men"
says it means that women should not wear tzitzis or tefilin because they are
what men wear. This disagrees with Tosfos who apparently views that this
desciption is not actually part of Targum Yonason.
Nevertheless it is obivous that
doing this is only for women who have a strong desire to keep the mitzvos -
even those which she is not commanded to keep. Thus if this is not her
motivation but rather because she has complaints against G-d and His Torah -
then it is not considered fulfilling the mitzva at all and in fact the opposite
is true - it is viewed as prohibited. It is prohibited as an act of heresy that
she thinks it is possible that there can be changes in Torah law even when she
is being stringent.
Second of all it is necessary to
know that the reason that they are exempt from time bound mitzvos is not
because women are on a lower level of holiness than men. Because as regarding
holiness they are equal to men in terms of the relevance of being obligated in
mitzvos. Because it is only from the aspect of holiness that exists in all Jews
that there is an obligation to do mitzvos. Because all the verses about
holiness are also said about women - whether it was at the beginning of the
acceptance of Torah "And they should be for me a treasure and you shall be
for me a holy people" which was said to Beis Yaakov i.e., the women and
"Tell the Children of Israel" i.e., the men or whether "Holy men
you shall be to Me" said in Mishpatim or "And you shall be holy"
which was said in Shemini or "And holy shall you be" and "you
shall be holy" in parshas Kedoshim. Or "You are a holy people for
G-d" in parshas Re'ah. The rule is that every place which mentions the
holiness of Jews applies also to the women. Consequently women also say the
beracha with the language , "who has sanctified us with His mitzvos"
as the men say on the mitzvos - even on those mitvzos which the Torah does not
obligate women to do.
The reason that the Torah does
not require women to perform these mitzvos is only because of a leniency that
G-d decided should exist for them as we discussed before - and not because they
are inferior - G-d forbid.
And amongst the obligations
between a man and his wife there is the obligation that a man needs to honor
and respect her and she needs to honor and respect him - without any
differential. There were many women who were prophetesses and they had the full
status of prophet as that found amongst the men. Furthermore in many things -
whether in the Bible or the words of our Sages - they were praised more than
the men. There is no degradation of the honor of women.
And in all matters in which we
find that they were exempt from Torah study and time bound mitzvos - there is
absolutely no cause to complain at all. Therefore you should explain in every instance
and be firm and strong in your mind that these are like the laws of the Torah and
to protest against those women who after all this is explained - stubbornly
insist on keeping their foolish and twisted views. It is important that nothing
be changed from the holy Jewish conduct.
*Nevertheless it is obivous that doing this is only for women who have a strong desire to keep the mitzvos - even those which she is not commanded to keep. Thus if this is not her motivation but rather because she has complaints against G-d and His Torah - then it is not considered fulfilling the mitzva at all and in fact the opposite is true - it is viewed as prohibited. It is prohibited as an act of heresy that she thinks it is possible that there can be changes in Torah law even when she is being stringent.*
ReplyDeleteThe femimista groups as we know them are always loud, making too much noise for their size. Had they really wanted to keep mitzvot out of frum motivation, they would quietly blend in the ezrat nashim at the Kotel without needing a separate section. All they want, is just to be noticed, the opposite of Kol Kvudo having a big chip on their shoulder. Most of the feministas, don't even care to bear children, or get married, hate men, rabbibical authority or any authority. Notice that mitzvot obligated to keep, they couldn't care less, but when it comes to men's mitzvot, they want to devour the men along with it. Most if not all, are assanine. Mitzvat tzedaka they can do nice n quiet matan beseser getting full and equal schar, for one.
I printed out and read closely “Rav Moshe Feinstein's views on Feminism O.C. 4:49.”
ReplyDeleteRav Moshe Feinstein’s focus is on women that want to change the halacha, e.g.
“Therefore it doesn't help to have any campaigns concerning this matter - because we have absolutely no ability to change the halacha - even if the entire world agrees. Consequently those women who are stubborn and want to fight to bring about change in these matters are considered deniers (kofrim) against the Torah.”
Look at Rabbi Melamed yesterday
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/19894
“In contrast, the members of the media who ridiculed the Torah’s mitzvot, and the women members of Knesset who petitioned the High Court against the Chief IDF Rabbi’s appointment, defamed the Torah. Besides slandering the word of the living God with their remarks and actions and the tradition of their ancestors who sacrificed their lives to guard it – no less severe, they harmed the welcome moral influence of the Torah in ‘tikkun olam’.
Their behavior is a direct result of their arrogant and superficial worldview which, out of good intentions, offers the world “new religions” and “moral solutions”, that in practice, cause destruction and devastation.”
Courts in Israel and in the USA, are severe on the crime of rape. They grant orders against a husband where the wife complains that she fears her husband will rape her. Courts in Israel and in the USA are also severe of the crime of kidnapping, see Mendel Epstein et al. Modern feminism and courts in Israel and in the USA ignore adultery. Greenblatt-Kamenitsky heter facilitates adultery and the Torah world in the USA is silent!
Modern feminism in the USA offers a new religion that could cause destruction and devastation, by facilitating adultery.
ReplyDelete"And amongst the obligations between a man and his wife there is the obligation that a man needs to honor and respect her and she needs to honor and respect him - without any differential. There were many women who were prophetesses and they had the full status of prophet as that found amongst the men. Furthermore in many things - whether in the Bible or the words of our Sages - they were praised more than the men. There is no degradation of the honor of women."
ReplyDeleteIsn't it "assanine" to write "assanine" in this way?
ReplyDeleteNot if your familiar with *subliminal* language Dictionary. See:
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