| After the horror, the disbelief, the shock, the emptiness, I next thought what many others must have. He had to have been a pedophile. I messaged a colleague, a respected rov, and asked what he thought. I will post it anonymously; I haven’t gotten to him yet to ask to use his name: I am sure he was, and I am sure he molested many others, and i am sure that there were people that knew and hushed it.It is time to forever bury the myth that reports of pedophilia can be managed and dealt with by committees of rabbonim, even for a short time. It is time to bury the myth that there is a serious halachic barrier to going to authorities to deal with credible reports of such behavior. Enough baalei halacha have told us that there is no barrier. Choshen Mishpat 358:12 tells us that those who vex the public can be handed over. Any pedophile does at least that, and poses a danger of doing much more. Moreover, mesirah of a molester exposes him to a safek of danger; pedophiles pose a much greater danger level to many more victims.[...] | |
Thursday, July 14, 2011
Yadeinu Shafchu Es Hadam Hazeh
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"managed and dealt with by committees of rabbonim,"
ReplyDeleteI witnessed an 8 year old boy being held down and fondled in the electrical closet of the shul by the youth director and a teenager.
I went to the police and my entire extended family was told not to come back to the shul by the rabbi himself.
time to face it. rabbis protect and enable molesters.
I agree with the article about reporting those evil pedophiles.
ReplyDeleteIt is not yet established whether the murderer in this case actually was a molestor.
It require expertise in criminology (yes, a secular subject) to determine whether the murderer (obviously a psychopath) had molested anyone, and if the two are linked. G-d forbid I should defend such an evil person - the Torah says "biarta haRa m'Yisroel" - that is what needs to be done.
It is simply wrong and premature to blame the community for this particular crime, unless there is evidence that information was known but covered up.
ReplyDeleteI don't think he was a pedophile.
ReplyDeleteActually, people speak so much about pedophiles, that they forget that child murderers also exist, unfortunately...
While I agree that there is a possibility that this piece of slime was a molester, however with all due respect to Rabbi Alderstien, I'm amazed how a person can write such accusation based on pure speculation.
ReplyDeleteI quote:
"He had to have been a pedophile. I messaged a colleague, a respected rov, and asked what he thought. I will post it anonymously; I haven’t gotten to him yet to ask to use his name. I am sure he was, and I am sure he molested many others, and I am sure that there were people that knew and hushed it".
In the absence of any reports to support such a claim, coupled with with the reports that claim that there is no evidence that Leiby was sexually molested before he was killed, I think that it's embarrassing to write or repost such an article.
Just my 2 cents....
>>I went to the police and my entire extended family was told not to come back to the shul by the rabbi himself. <<
ReplyDeleteCan't you name the rabbi and/or shul so we can protect ourselves?
"reports that claim that there is no evidence that Leiby was sexually molested before he was killed"
ReplyDeleteWas there an autopsy?
If not, how can they ascertain whether or not there is evidence of sexual abuse?
NYC Police Commissioner unambiguously stated there was no sexual abuse and this was a first-time criminal.
ReplyDeleteMO kvetcher, Your facts are wrong. He was arrested before for public urination. That's a crime. Not a first-time criminal, then. He was also accused of previous kidnapping attempts.
ReplyDeleteAgain, if there was no autopsy, how does the NYC Police Commissioner or anyone state anything unambiguously regarding that issue? Inquiring minds would like to know.
If I remember correctly, the Police Commissioner said that there was an autopsy of the body.
ReplyDeleteApparently they are still looking for more forensic evidence:
"Dressed in white haz-mat suits, investigators hauled out two chairs, a couch and a carpet—each wrapped in brown paper—from the Kensington living room of the 35-year-old Aron, who was charged in Tuesday’s killing and dismemberment of the angelic Borough Park boy. Over the weekend, two mattresses also had been hauled out of the house Aron shared with his dad, stepmom and uncle".
Studen V - public urination is a misdemeanor and is as much a crime as running a stop sign.
ReplyDeleteIf you have any questions, be in touch with NYC Police Comissioner Ray Kelly. He publicly stated there was no molestation or abuse in this case.
He's your rebbe I guess?
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