Tuesday, March 1, 2022

Smear and Loathing: A Close Look at Accusations of Ukrainian Anti‐​Semitism

 https://www.cato.org/commentary/smear-loathing-close-look-accusations-ukrainian-anti-semitism

Given this cast of characters, it’s unsurprising that—as Shekhovtsov reported on the Open Democracy website in May 2014—the Kremlin propaganda narrative depicting post‐​Euromaidan Ukraine as a nest of neo‐​Nazis would coexist with frequent, virulent anti‐​Semitic rhetoric in the separatist movement in Eastern Ukraine. Shekhovtsov mentions street posters, leaflets, internet posts, and even speeches at rallies attacking the new government in Kyiv as a Jewish clique out to use Ukrainians to defend the interests of rich Jews, or depicting the Euromaidan revolution as a “Zionist coup.”

The Kremlin itself has sometimes resorted to subtler forms of Jew‐​baiting in its psychological warfare against Ukraine. Last October, Dmitry Medvedev, Russia’s former Putin‐​puppet president and currently deputy chairman of the security council, published a repulsive ad hominem tirade arguing that negotiations with the current Ukrainian government were pointless because its members, in addition to being weak, greedy, and corrupt, were damaged people without stable national and ethnic roots. The longest and nastiest portion of the article attacked Zelensky as a man with “particular ethnic roots” who had “essentially rejected his identity” for political and pragmatic reasons and compared him to a Jew in Nazi Germany seeking a post in the SS.

22 comments:

  1. "The longest and nastiest portion of the
    article attacked Zelensky as a man with “particular ethnic roots” who
    had “essentially rejected his identity” for political and pragmatic
    reasons and compared him to a Jew in Nazi Germany seeking a post in the
    SS."



    Ok, it's a bit extreme, but the famous Or sameach wrote about those who call Berlin their Jerusalem, from there a whirlwind will come and destroy them. The actual thesis was somewhat more in depth, it was about Jews assiilating in each culture they enter, and this being the pattern of galus.

    So the atatck of the Soviet lacky was anti-Ukrainian, but not anti-semitic. he was just decrying the fact that a Jew had given up his own religious ethics and become part of an anti-Russian, anti-christ movement.

    The Jews in Russia have been very well treated and protected by Putin. I disagree with his methods and foreign militarism, but he has treated the Jews there very well.

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  2. Wow so you give Putin for attacking a country with a large Jewish population because he is nice to his Jews?!

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  3. a) he doesn't need my pass
    b) if you check what i wrote, and it remains unedited, I said the opposite, i do not agree with his militarism.

    Medved is mocking Zelensky, this is some time ago. Presumably he means Jews should be loyal to their Russian benefactors, who have allowed so many to thrive, become oligarchs, and enjoy wealth and privileges unknown even in western countries!

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  4. why does the Navi criticise Damascus, and say it will be punished forever? or bavel, which will lie derelict forever? A number of such prophecies are made against the tormentors of Israel.

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  5. Torah.org
    The Judaism Site
    In Germany!
    https://torah.org/torah-portion/dvartorah-5772-shemos/
    Page: 1
    IN GERMANY!
    by Rabbi Label Lam
    And Yosef died and all his brothers, and all of that generation, and the children of Israel multiplied and
    swarmed and increased and grew very - very strong and the land became filled with them. (Shemos 1:6
    -7)
    This description is not just a slice of ancient history. Rather the Torah is mapping out for us what can
    easily be titled, "the anatomy of an exile." After Yosef and his brothers and that whole generation,
    who knew grandfather Yaakov passed away, the next generation began to blunder into the general
    Egyptian population. They became enamored with Egyptian culture and were at risk of becoming
    lost for all time.
    Rabbi Meir Simcha of Dvinsk ztl., the "Ohr Somayach" wrote in his commentary on the 26th chapter
    of Vayikra about this repeating pattern of Jewish history. As a young Torah scholar, decades before
    the war he writes the following prescient words. "Modern man thinks that Berlin is Jerusalem, but a
    fierce storm of destruction will emanate from Berlin and leave but a scant remnant. The survivors
    will disburse to other countries and Torah will strike new roots and young scholars will produce
    undreamed of accomplishments." Who could have imagined the hell fury that was lurking in the
    shadows at that time in Germany when so many felt so comfortable and welcome that the word
    "Jerusalem" was stricken from the Siddur.

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  6. Kal, I'm disagreeing with you on this one. A classic European anti-Semitic trope has been that the Jews are cosmopolitans with no loyalty to anyone but themselves.

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  7. That is correct - but was medved implying this? Or simply suggesting that zelensky sold himself short by becoming a Ukrainian (fascist)?

    The Russians have a superiority complex about the other nations they engulfed, eg Poland. Estonia etc.

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  8. Also, this could be Ikveisa d'Meshicha

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  9. Wow why your ardent defense of Russia?

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  10. So you are the Navi saying Ukraine will suffer forever?

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  11. Don't need to be navi

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  12. Not defending them. Trying to understand them.

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  13. So you claim there is a general rule that contradicts chazal?

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  14. Why does it contradict Chazal? There are punishments which build up, and after some time will rain down on evildoers. That is what both the Neviim and Chazal say.

    Hilchot Teshuva ch.3
    1


    Each and every person has merits and sins. A person whose merits
    exceed his sins is [termed] righteous. A person whose sins exceed his
    merits is [termed] wicked. If [his sins and merits] are equal, he is
    termed a Beinoni.


    The same applies to an entire country. If the merits of all its
    inhabitants exceed their sins, it is [termed] righteous. If their sins
    are greater, it is [termed] wicked. The same applies to the entire
    world.א

    כָּל
    אֶחָד וְאֶחָד מִבְּנֵי הָאָדָם יֵשׁ לוֹ זְכֻיּוֹת וַעֲוֹנוֹת. מִי
    שֶׁזְּכֻיּוֹתָיו יְתֵרוֹת עַל עֲוֹנוֹתָיו צַדִּיק. וּמִי שֶׁעֲוֹנוֹתָיו
    יְתֵרוֹת עַל זְכֻיּוֹתָיו רָשָׁע. מֶחֱצָה לְמֶחֱצָה בֵּינוֹנִי. וְכֵן
    הַמְּדִינָה אִם הָיוּ זְכֻיּוֹת כָּל יוֹשְׁבֶיהָ מְרֻבּוֹת עַל
    עֲוֹנוֹתֵיהֶן הֲרֵי זוֹ צַדֶּקֶת. וְאִם הָיוּ עֲוֹנוֹתֵיהֶם מְרֻבִּין
    הֲרֵי זוֹ רְשָׁעָה. וְכֵן כָּל הָעוֹלָם כֻּלּוֹ:



    2


    If a person's sins exceed his merits, he will immediately die because of his wickedness as [Jeremiah 30:14] states: "[I have smitten you...] for the multitude of your transgressions."


    Similarly, a country whose sins are great will immediately be obliterated as implied by [Genesis 18:20]: "The outcry of Sodom and Amorah is great....


    In regard to the entire world as well, were its [inhabitants'] sins
    to be greater than their merits, they would immediately be destroyed as [Genesis 6:5] relates: "God saw the evil of man was great... [and God said: `I will destroy man....']"


    This reckoning is not calculated [only] on the basis of the number of
    merits and sins, but also [takes into account] their magnitude. There
    are some merits which outweigh many sins as implied by [I Kings 14:13]: "Because in him, there was found a good quality." In contrast, a sin may outweigh many merits as [Ecclesiastes 9:18] states: "One sin may obscure much good."


    The weighing [of sins and merits] is carried out according to the
    wisdom of the Knowing God. He knows how to measure merits against sins.ב

    אָדָם
    שֶׁעֲוֹנוֹתָיו מְרֻבִּין עַל זְכֻיּוֹתָיו מִיָּד הוּא מֵת בְּרִשְׁעוֹ
    שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר עַל רֹב עֲוֹנֵךְ. וְכֵן מְדִינָה שֶׁעֲוֹנוֹתֶיהָ מְרֻבִּין
    מִיָּד הִיא אוֹבֶדֶת שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר (בראשית יח כ) "זַעֲקַת
    סְדֹם וַעֲמֹרָה כִּי רָבָּה" וְגוֹ'. וְכֵן כָּל הָעוֹלָם כֻּלּוֹ אִם
    הָיוּ עֲוֹנוֹתֵיהֶם מְרֻבִּין מִזְּכֻיּוֹתֵיהֶן מִיָּד הֵן נִשְׁחָתִין
    שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר (בראשית ו ה) "וַיַּרְא ה' כִּי רַבָּה רָעַת
    הָאָדָם". וְשִׁקּוּל זֶה אֵינוֹ לְפִי מִנְיַן הַזְּכֻיּוֹת וְהָעֲוֹנוֹת
    אֶלָּא לְפִי גָּדְלָם. יֵשׁ זְכוּת שֶׁהִיא כְּנֶגֶד כַּמָּה עֲוֹנוֹת
    שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר (מלכים א יד יג) "יַעַן נִמְצָא בוֹ דָּבָר טוֹב". וְיֵשׁ עָוֹן שֶׁהוּא כְּנֶגֶד כַּמָּה זְכֻיּוֹת שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר (קהלת ט יח)
    "וְחוֹטֶא אֶחָד יְאַבֵּד טוֹבָה הַרְבֵּה". וְאֵין שׁוֹקְלִין אֶלָּא
    בְּדַעְתּוֹ שֶׁל אֵל דֵּעוֹת וְהוּא הַיּוֹדֵעַ הֵיאַךְ עוֹרְכִין
    הַזְּכֻיּוֹת כְּנֶגֶד הָעֲוֹנוֹת:

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  15. Wow where does it say that countries where Jews were killed will deserve to suffer forever? that is an idea you made up!

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  16. The prophecy was against Tyre
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/%3fsearch=Ezekiel%2b26&version=NIV&interface=amp
    so these prophecies may have echoes in other cases.
    want me to find sources?

    https://biblehub.com/genesis/12-3.htm

    bereishis 12/ 3

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  17. Maybe you can find a reference to Martians while you are trying to justify your claim?

    "may have echoes" what does this nonsense mean?!

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  18. Zechariah 2

    12 For thus saith the LORD of hosts who sent me after glory unto

    the nations which spoiled you: 'Surely, he that toucheth you toucheth

    the apple of his eye.

    13 For, behold, I will shake My hand over them, and they shall be
    a spoil to those that served them'; and ye shall know that the LORD of
    hosts hath sent me. {S}

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  19. Actually. I just saw Biden 'S speech, he said Uranian people - that's a planet further out than Mars.

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  20. RT news showing holocaust films, describing how Ukraine collaborated with the naxis.
    terrible things happened.
    this is terrible propaganda.

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