Trump told a packed audience at State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona Sunday that he remembered Charlie Kirk as someone who “did not hate his opponents.”
“He wanted the best for them,” Trump said. “That’s where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponents, and I don’t want the best for them. I’m sorry.”
The president’s words on Sunday were notably different in tone from those of other speakers, including Erika Kirk, Charlie Kirk’s widow, who forgave the shooter who took her husband’s life, saying, “I forgive him because it was what Christ did and it is what Charlie would do.” Video from the memorial showed audience members, some visibly emotional, stand and applaud.
A liberal is someone who's too open-minded to take his own side in an argument and thinks that supporting his enemies is virtuous.
ReplyDeleteA liberal is an idiot.
Did Gedaliah violate halacha for not listening to military intelligence about his own assassination? Or to put it another way, he obviously did, or was too much into Artscroll CC on Loshon hara, and forfeited his own life because of makkot perushin.
DeleteSo why fast, if he was himself a sinner?
He was a pious fool.
DeleteOur erudite blogmaster has posted in the past about how the CC took a very limited mention of loshon horo in the Gemara and classical sources, combined it with any mention he could find anywhere in non-halakhic texts and turned the whole thing into a massive area of legal instruction. Gedaliah ben Achikam had clearly read the Artscroll version of the book and was committed to the "I'm going to do what the book says even if it kills me" approach.
Apikorsus rears its ugly head not 72 hours into the new year. I thought Rosh Hashona was for introspection and Teshuva.
DeleteHe was a pious fool.??? According to the Talmud, the aim of the fast day is "to establish that the death of the righteous is likened to the burning of the House of our God.". Just as fasts were ordained to commemorate the destruction of the Jewish Temple, likewise a fast was ordained to commemorate the death of Gedaliah.
Delete16 But Gedaliah the son of Ahikam said unto Johanan the son of Kareah: 'Thou shalt not do this thing; for thou speakest falsely of Ishmael
DeleteHe was frum, but he made a fatal mistake. He did not accept that Ishmael was a rodeif, and did not fulfill hilchot rodeif.
What is apikorsus about the statement? The talmud speaks of nakkot perushin, and chasid shoteh.
DeleteDo you dispute that?
Gedaliah was just denying metzius - meaning he was not a good leader
Righteousness is about character and decency, not intelligence. Stupid people can be quite righteous. Intelligent people can be quite twisted.
DeleteThat Gedaliah was saintly is not a question. However, sitting there and saying "I don't care if you have all this evidence that he wants to kill me. I will purposefully ignore it because otherwise I'm accepting loshon horo" is straight out foolishness.
See Yechezkel about the watchman
ReplyDeletehttps://mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1233.htm?2c30f1086d
In any case, the real treachery of the story was when the people asked Jeremiah if they should stay in Israel or leave. Jeremiah asked Hashem thru nevuah, and told them to stay and be built up forever. But they denied his nevuah.
ReplyDeleteThat's the only apikorsus going on here. Don't deny nevuah. Or reality.
The tragedy of that part of Tanach is that it's one bad decision after another. Yoshiyahu can't just let the Egyptians march through. Tzidkiyahu can't just not revolt against Babylon. Gedaliah can't accept that his life is in danger because loshon horo is more important. And the women tell Yirmiyahu that the whole reason for the disaster is because they listened to him and abandoned their idols. Just a mess.
DeleteIt's the same story, since Adam.. Cain, Noah, Jacob,.. Moses, ..
DeleteSamson, Yiftach, David, Solomon, and then all the Kings.
It's the same story in the 2nd Bayit, except Chazal tell the story differently from the way the Tanakh tells it.