Monday, November 11, 2024

At Riyadh summit, Saudi crown prince backs Iran, accuses Israel of genocide

 https://www.timesofisrael.com/at-riyadh-summit-saudi-crown-prince-backs-iran-accuses-israel-of-genocide/

Saudi Arabia’s de facto ruler on Monday called on Israel to respect Iran’s sovereignty and refrain from attacking Iranian soil, while appearing to step up criticism of Jerusalem, accusing it of genocide.

Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman made the comments at a summit of Arab and Muslim leaders organized to press for the establishment of a Palestinian state, a year after the Arab League and the Organization of Islamic Cooperation held a first conference on the subject.

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  1. To get a 1/60th or so idea of what Arabs say at their Arab league conferences, one can look lehavdil at a convention of Hareidim, especially the anti-zionist factions.
    They [Hareidim] will speak out about how bad Zionism is, how it is the opposite of Judaism, how having belief in "my strength in my right hand" is atheism and heresy, that Israel is a bad place for jews, the draft is like amalek, designed by those who hate Torah scholars.
    Thats Israel's provocative actions, eg Entebbe are against halacha, as was the "occupation" of Temple mount by Goren's people.
    The Muslims are not anti-semitic and in Iran, jews can live a fully religious life...

    Then there is a peer pressure that nobody can be lenient towards the Zionists, so people will compete to be more extremely opposed, just as they were for Druckman and Army conversions..

    If you look at this sociology of Hareidi anti-zionism, then you get an inkling of how lehavdil Arabs, when they get together will have a hatefest against Israel and they have been doing this for the past 80 years.

    It probably goes back to Ishmael, and who knows, maybe even the way he was expelled.

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    1. This is America's fault.
      Trump failed to defend Saudi after the Iranian attacks.
      Then biden threatened to isolate Saudi Arabia after khashoggi was murdered.
      The world economy suffered from high energy prices because of bidens sophomore politics and Saudi was pushed into the arms of the islamic republic

      https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/why-did-joe-biden-take-a-u-turn-on-saudi-arabia/article65647265.ece

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    2. Right! Biden failed to be bribed like the Trump family and had the chutzpah to complain about the Saudi murder of an American citizen, Biden should have been more understanding of the nebach Saudis even at the expense of America.

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    3. His actions were at the expense of the American economy, and Saudis felt betrayed.
      Trump also failed.

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    4. No Trump succeeded in his goal of getting money

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    5. Biden got enough money from the Ukrainians. He didn't need more Saudi money.

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    6. If Biden had a bit more seichel and derekh eretz, he would not have alienated Saudi arabia by calling to isolate MBS and make it a pariah state. He would have had a friend, who would agree to keep oil prices low during the early part of the Ukraine war, curbing inflation and industrial output. This is the cost of stupidity and knee jerk communist reactions.

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    7. Wow so your view of true morality is like Trump - keep price of oil low.
      You think any other consideration like right and wrong is stupid. Now I understand your previous rants. Might makes right!

      What other historical figures thought this way?- Stalin, Hitler and the Japanese in WWII.
      Now I can see why people are antisemites.
      They believe with Freud that the Jews tricked Mankind into accepting a moral code that weakens them! But Trump is not burdened with a sense of morality - all that matters is power.

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    8. Rant is what you are doing.
      Obama and Biden did nothing when Iran was murdering, torturing its citizens, and women who refused to wear a sheitel/burka.
      Well, actually, they released billions to them, to prop up their evil regimes.
      Is there any morality in that? Or do you have a certain affinity for the Iranian "Morality Police" because it reminds you of the Neturei karta in Meah Shearim, who also throw acid at women whose sleeves aren't long enough?
      Now i understand why Muslims are antisemites - they believe like Muhammad who says that Jews have to keep more mitzvot than Muslims because they are sinners, so more things are prohibited to them!

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    9. Wow you think Obama should have nuked Iran? As a minimum get involved with the working of the government? I
      was just noting that America should be concerned when its citizens get murdered by a foreign power such as Biden's concern for dual citizens captured by Hamas.
      You clearly stated that this concern can be overshadowed by the impact on oil prices or bribes. Dismissing my concerns by calling them ranting is typical of people lacking a moral compass

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    10. There's counter side to that if you impose economic hardship on your own country that in itself can cause deaths because of poverty and healthcare.
      So a a milder criticism could be levelled at an ally like they do regularly with Israel. Not a strong threat

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    11. "Now I understand your previous rants. Might makes right!"

      That was what you said about my "rants".

      Biden had to make a humiliating visit to MBS but still failed to influence him.
      So it's an admission he miscalculated

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    12. To DT 7:05 -- K was never an American citizen. Actually, he was a Saudi citizen residing in Washington DC ( I guess he had a Green Card, which has nothing to do with citizenship). He entered the Saudi Embassy with his Saudi passport, obviously entered Turkey with the same Saudi passport.

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    13. When the Iranians rose up after that corrupt election 14 years ago, Obama should've gone on international television and announced "People of Iran, it's time for you to get rid of that terrible government you have and join the civilized nations of the world once again. America stands behind you!" Instead he said "We recognize the outcome of the election and stand against civil obedience" even as IRGC soldiers were killing demonstrators in the streets.
      At any time since then, America and Israel could've coordinatd a bombing campaign to wipe out all extant IRGC bases while sending a message to the Iranian army that they could stage a coup without worrying about the Ayatollahs' army.
      And yes, keeping the price of oil low is important for hundreds of millions of people in the West. If Trump does that, he's helping a lot.

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  2. Garnel, Senator Comey wants you to share your information with the Republicans so that Majorie Taylor Greene can finally Impeach Biden!
    Maybe Don Jr will head the firing squad. You will at last become famous
    All the historians will want to write about you.! They have been searching for years for the evidence you alone possess. Don't be shy or act with false modesty. Trump will probably offer you the job as head of the Justice Department

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