Sunday, December 25, 2016

Trump is doing that which he condemned HIllary Clinton for doing


Donald Trump spent the past two years attacking rival Hillary Clinton as crooked, corrupt, and weak.
But some of those attacks seem to have already slipped into the history books.
From installing Wall Street executives in his Cabinet to avoiding news conferences, the president-elect is adopting some of the same behavior for which he criticized Clinton during their fiery presidential campaign.
Here’s a look at what Trump said then — and what he’s doing now:
GOLDMAN SACHS
Then: “I know the guys at Goldman Sachs,” Trump said at a South Carolina rally in February, when he was locked in a fierce primary battle with Texas Sen. Ted Cruz. “They have total, total control over him. Just like they have total control over Hillary Clinton.”
Now: A number of former employees of the Wall Street bank will pay a key role in crafting Trump’s economic policy. He’s tapped Goldman Sachs president Gary Cohn to lead the White House National Economic Council. Steven Mnuchin, the Treasury secretary nominee, spent 17 years working at Goldman Sachs and Steve Bannon, Trump’s chief strategist and senior counselor, started his career as an investment banker at the firm.
Trump is following in a long political tradition, though one he derided on the campaign trail: If Cohn accepts the nomination, he’ll be the third Goldman executive to run the NEC.
BIG DONORS
Then: “Crooked Hillary. Look, can you imagine another four years of the Clintons? Seriously. It’s time to move on. And she’s totally controlled by Wall Street and all these people that gave her millions,” Trump said at a May rally in Lynden, Washington.
Now: Trump has stocked his Cabinet with six top donors — far more than any recent White House. “I want people that made a fortune. Because now they’re negotiating with you, OK?” Trump said, in a December 9 speech in Des Moines.
The biggest giver? Incoming small business administrator Linda McMahon gave $7.5 million to a super PAC backing Trump, more than a third of the money collected by the political action committee.
NEWS CONFERENCES
Then: “She doesn’t do news conferences, because she can’t,” Trump said at an August rally in Ashburn, Virginia. “She’s so dishonest she doesn’t want people peppering her with questions.”
Now: Trump opened his last news conference on July 27, saying: “You know, I put myself through your news conferences often, not that it’s fun.”
He hasn’t held once since.[...]
FAMILY TIES:
Then: “It is impossible to figure out where the Clinton Foundation ends and the State Department begins. It is now abundantly clear that the Clintons set up a business to profit from public office. They sold access and specific actions by and really for I guess the making of large amounts of money,” Trump said at an August rally in Austin.
Now: While Trump has promised to separate himself from his businesses, there is plenty of overlap between his enterprises and his immediate family. His companies will be run by his sons, Donald Jr and Eric. And his daughter, Ivanka, and son-in-law, Jared Kushner, have joined Trump at a number of meetings with world leaders of countries where the family has financial interests.
In a financial disclosure he was required to file during the campaign, Trump listed stakes in about 500 companies in at least 25 countries.
Ivanka, in particular, has been caught making early efforts to leverage her father’s new position into profits. After an interview with the family appeared on “60 Minutes,” her jewelry company, Ivanka Trump Fine Jewelry, blasted out an email promoting the $10,800 gold bangle bracelet that she had worn during the appearance. The company later said they were “proactively discussing new policies and procedures.”
Ivanka is also auctioning off a private coffee meeting with her to benefit her brother’s foundation. The meeting is valued at $50,000, with the current top bid coming in at $25,000.[...]
CLINTON INVESTIGATIONS
Then: “If I win, I am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation, because there has never been so many lies, so much deception. There has never been anything like it, and we’re going to have a special prosecutor,” Trump said in the October presidential debate.
Now: Since winning office, Trump has said he has no intention of pushing for an investigation into Clinton’s use of a private email server as secretary of State or the workings of her family foundation. “It’s just not something that I feel very strongly about,” he told the New York Times.
“She went through a lot. And suffered greatly in many different ways,” he said. “I’m not looking to hurt them.”

22 comments :

  1. Why would one compare the missteps of newbies in the political arena to the long-term bad behavior patterns of seasoned politicians?

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  2. Truly unbelievable! On the day that Trump stuck his neck out for us, this is the way you say thank you?! Whatever your issues are with Trump - both real and exaggerated - today is not the day to search for ways to criticize him. I have no doubt that Rav Shternbauch would advise you not to publish this type of thing today.

    While Rav Shternbauch is against settlements because it's hisgarus be'umos, he would be highly critical of being misgarer with the umos who are seeking to protect us - regardless of their possible motivations.

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  3. The issue is that these are not "missteps." They are behaviors which indicate that his criticisms of Clinton were nothing but a cynical ploy to sucker voters into thinking that he would somehow be different than other politicians, and he has totally changed course the minute he was elected.

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  4. President Obama was a relative "newbie" but was criticized heavily not only for his "missteps" but for almost every "step". But the point of the article is that this "newbie", actually, was aware and knowledgeable enough to identify Clinton's "mistakes", he simply has no excuse of repeating the EXACT same "mistakes". As the saying goes: the wise learn from the mistakes of others, but the fool learns from his own. If Trump is wise, then this article suggests that he has been dishonest.

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  5. His voters could have known this beforehand. He openly said in his campaign that he had a lot of experience in active corruption. I guess he wanted to change sides now and be the one who gets the bribes.

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  6. I find it interesting that people upgrade their authority by imagining that they KNOW what real authories think and how they would act. We really don't need gedolim because I can imagine what Rav Moshe would do or even Moshe Rabbeinu.

    My posting an item from the AP which was published widely in the world - has nothing to do with hakaras hatov. Hakaras hatov doesn't mean be stupid or deny reality as a way of rewarding some who did something right. Trump will not refuse to support Israel in the future if he realizes that some people are not overwhelmed by his character, level of hypocrisy, stability, honest, wisdom or political strategy.

    BTW how did Trump stick his neck out forus? What political risk did he take that I owe him one?
    Based on Trump's previous statements it would have made him look like a total idiot if he didn't express what did.

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  7. The truth is that the newbies are worse, most of the time. They have a clean sheet, because they are newbies, so they point fingers at everyone, but once they are in, they behave worse (more corrupt) than the established elites most of the time. Look at the populist parties in Europe: as soon as they are in government, they have scandals. their whole shtik is NOT to be in power and point fingers. As soon as they are in power, they are just as corrupt and incapable (because the task was more difficult than they thought from the outside)...

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  8. Honesty why are you bothering to try to make a point with DE? he is jesus reincarnate ask him if he has ever been wrong about anything in his life. Ask him if he ever committed a sin?

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  9. A bit personal, are we? Instead of going for the gratuitous insults, why not respond to the point?

    In your opinion, is Donald Trump more vain than Hillary Clinton? You've made your opinion quite clear that he is.

    The Tzeitung is a Yiddish newspaper that has fewer readers than your blog. They also have never included the picture, or even a cartoon, of a woman. They don't plan on ever doing so. Hillary Clinton was quite mad when their little paper photo-shopped her out of a picture. This was revealed when part of her emails were released.
    http://matzav.com/just-revealed-hillary-was-mad-about-being-photoshopped-out-of-frum-newspaper/

    Do you now think more highly of Donald Trump - that he won't take notice or be bothered if Rabbis criticize him? On a day that he came to our defense? You're article is one that many people would disagree with. It would not have killed you to wait two days to publish it.

    Trump could have quite clearly ignored Obama's moves by saying that he is not the president yet, as many hypocritical liberals are crying about anyway. (Of course they forget Barak Obama's behavior in 2008, where he give speeches "from the office of the president-elect"....)

    As to the substance, does Rav Shterbauch agree with your policy of joining the liberal frenzy of delegitimizing Trump? How about a substantive answer?

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  10. Trump followers view rational thought as frenzy. Holding Trump to the same standards as other mortal men as being biased. Of asking relevant questions as a sign of irrational hatred.

    In sum we would not be having the conversation about any other human being besides Trump. He has become an avoda zarah.

    Regarding Rav Sternbuch - you are asking a "when did you stop beating your wife question". Why are don't normal standards apply to Trump?

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  11. Huh? So anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a Trump follower who views rational thought as a frenzy? When people ask you relevant questions about your double-standard towards Trump, you accuse them of being crazy Trump supporters.

    In sum we would not be having the conversation about any other human being besides Trump.

    Incorrect. If Elliot Spitzer, Anthony Wiener or any other kook would have had the ability to stand by us, would be criticized and delegitimized by the questionable tactics that you used, on the day of their defense - I would question you the same way. But you're probably correct - you would only treat Trump this way.

    Regarding Rav Sternbuch - you are asking a "when did you stop beating your wife question". Why are don't normal standards apply to Trump?

    Gee: what happened to your condescending Moshe Rabbeinu diatribe?

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  12. I posted this a couple of hours ago, but it has been marked as spam. Here it is again:

    Huh? So anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a Trump follower who views rational thought as a frenzy? When people ask you relevant questions about your double-standard towards Trump, you accuse them of being crazy Trump supporters.

    In sum we would not be having the conversation about any other human being besides Trump.

    Incorrect. If Elliot Spitzer, Anthony Wiener or any other kook would have had the ability to stand by us, would be criticized and delegitimized by the questionable tactics that you used, on the day of their defense - I would question you the same way. But you're probably correct - you would only treat Trump this way.

    Regarding Rav Sternbuch - you are asking a "when did you stop beating your wife question". Why are don't normal standards apply to Trump?

    Gee: what happened to your condescending Moshe Rabbeinu diatribe? The article you posted was not news, but an opinionated analysis. It was not time sensitive. It could have waited two days.

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  13. Where are Clinton's tweets or public satements complaining about being "photoshopped away" or insulting the editors of the paper?

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  14. your response is further indicative and characteristic of the lack of elementary derech eretz that is produced in reaction to criticism of any type about Trump . You are totally ignoring what I was responding to.

    There seems to be a need to defend the embarrassing and stupid comments of Trump as well as his deliberate lies and distortions and it is done on an emotional level which clearly indicates psychological factors that greatly transcend and overwhelm the need for establishing facts and rational discourse.

    Why is Trump - a prusta goy - eliciting the type of loyalty amongst frum yidden that is typically is reserved for one's family or the gedolei hador?.

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  15. DT: "Why is Trump - a prusta goy - eliciting the type of loyalty amongst frum yidden that is typically reserved for one's family or the gedolei hador?"

    My question exactly.

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  16. Perhaps Hashem is showing us that a prusta goy like Trump is getting the type of loyalty many are giving "gedolei hador" who don't deserve it anymore? After all if we can treat a "gadol" who turns a blind eye to adultery with kavod, why should we have a prusta goy like Trump as leader of our country?

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  17. I think that is a fantastic response. If we don't have gedolim worthy of our loyalty we should be loyal to the poorest example of humanity! I sure hope your realize it is not Purim yet.

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  18. What? Just because of his similarities to Achashveirosh (both ran beauty contests, Jewish children, etc..) ?

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  19. No because you don't have a problem surrendering ones loyalty and responsible thinking to the bottom of the barrel

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  20. What loyalty? I know Trump is a boor, I've always said so. But he is President now by Hashem's grace whether anyone likes it or not. You think I didn't have a problem with the jerk who was President for the last 8 years? We got the bottom of the barrel, as you put it, now because the electorate of the country's heartland abhorred the idea of the kushi 's corrupt first Secretary of State becoming POTUS and continuing his disastrous policies. Why didn't you post about Obama for the last couple of years?

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  21. didn't see any big difference between Obama and the previous presidents. Trump is clearly playing by different rules and needs closer monitoring

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  22. And that's why people voted for Trump. Because they were sick and tired of career, elite politicians like Obama, the Clintons and the Bushes with the crooked rules they played by that left the country in the mess it has been in.

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