Wednesday, June 4, 2025

Everywhere and Nowhere - first shudduch crises

 https://mishpacha.com/everywhere-and-nowhere/

And then we can ask harder questions: What happened when the ghetto gates swung open? Which centrifugal forces splintered communities, and which held them together? Why was it that by the year 1900, only 15 percent of Jews in Central Europe were shomer Shabbos? What went wrong then? And what can hold us together today, when we fight assimilation not only of the Jewish People at large, but the drifting away that takes place within our neighborhoods, schools, communities, our very homes?

When equipped with a substantial dowry and trousseau, a young woman could expect to have her future — that is, her marriage — arranged for her. But what of those who were not so blessed? In 1895, an editorial in the Orthodox family weekly Die Laubhütte stated: “Dowries are getting higher every year…. Soon middle-class girls will no longer be able to buy men and poor girls already have no chance to get married.”

9 comments:

  1. Every major Jewish crisis in the last 250 years is because the religious leadership thought it could deal with changes in the outside world by ignoring them and expecting their followers not to notice them either.
    Imagine if, instead of screeching "All secular education is forbidden!", The Gedolim(tm) had instead worked to create a comprehensive secular curriculum that avoided anything that contradicted the Torah. Imagine if, instead of saying "You're only a Torah-true Jew if you live in misery and poverty in a ghetto, otherwise you might as well be a Gentile!" they'd have encouraged limited interactions with the outside world on their terms.
    Kind of like how Rav Hirsch, zt"l, did, with great success. But no, it's was "We don't care if 999 leave if that last 1 guy becomes a gadol!" And 999 left.
    This is happening again today in Israel. Eventually the Chareidim will be drafted and because it will be against the will of The Gedolim(tm), lots of those boys will go OTD at the first taste of freedom because they were never taught how to balance that freedom with Torah.
    Some people never learn.

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    1. Why do you limit it to 250 years?
      The gemara says that anytime the nation has sufferings it's because of the Judges, which means Rabbis. What was Zechariah ben Avkulos' contribution? He had the Hareidi view, no change, no flexibility, no common sense. That led to biggest disaster in history, at least since the golden calf

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    2. Apikorsus regurgitated

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    3. Ahh Bilaam and his donkey. Actually calling the Gemara apikorsus!

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    4. I was wondering what happened to Ironhead.

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  2. Apikorsus regurgitated was in reference, for those idiots with no sechel, to the idiot from Canada's remarks and KAs spin on the Gemora. So sad that has to be explained. Get a life.
    I'm sure you figured out what GIIAI means already?

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    1. "Gemara cites a Sage's harsh opinion of the incident: "Rabbi Yochanan said: The 'humility' of Rabbi Zechariah ben Avkules destroyed our [national] house, burned our Temple and exiled us from our country." "

      https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/395045

      so you take issue with Rabbi Yochanan?
      hmm, pot calling the kettle black..

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    2. I'm sure you figured out what EIEIO means...

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  3. "instead worked to create a comprehensive secular curriculum that "
    Many had done so.Kovna Orthodoxie was the term

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