Thursday, April 20, 2023

Five takeaways from the Fox News-Dominion settlement

 https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3959249-five-takeaways-from-the-fox-news-dominion-settlement/

The network gave perfunctory coverage to the Dominion settlement, even as rival cable networks and other news sites splashed the big news.

To many people, Fox’s conduct around the election-related conspiracy theories was indefensible.

But it’s a massive stretch to imagine its audience will drift away in any significant numbers — if at all.

23 comments:

  1. I love how Fox is considered bad for doing something any network would do.
    Imagine tomorrow that CNN is successfully sued for defaming and lying about Israel. Do you think they'd run the headline?

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  2. Yes lets play what about!
    What happens to the Republican party when Trump is convicted of a serious crime or is defeated again by Biden

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  3. But he won't be convicted. The Democrats have been trying to find something since 2016 and other than accusations that CNN et al treat as convictions, they have accomplished nothing.

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  4. Wow!
    Trump has been very generous at giving justification.
    And you think he is above the law

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  5. Again, you are confusing "We're going to find somethng he's guilty of" with "He's actually guilty of something."
    This "trial" of his will go one of two ways. Either pretty early on the prosecutor will realize he has no case and will have to back off which will up Trump's numbers or he'll actually get him to trial which will up Trump's numbers. Either way, Trump wins.

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  6. “Five takeaways from the Fox News-Dominion settlement”
    Sotah 31a: “If one witness said, I saw her that she had become defiled, she did not have .to drink [One witness is accepted and she is divorced besides losing the marriage-settlement. V. supra 2a]; and not only so but even if a bondman, even if a bondwoman [Whose evidence is not accepted in an ordinary case] , they are accounted reliable even to disqualify her from obtaining her marriage-settlement.”

    The case in the Gamara one witness tells the husband that his wife committed adultery. What’s the husband to do? He loves her. The wife hotly denies she committed adultery. Rule is two witnesses to establish a matter. One witness can open a case of the bitter waters, maybe, where the accused wife will drink the bitter waters, maybe, to prove her innocence. Much better for the husband to drop his complaint unless he has evidence of two witnesses. Beautiful.

    I agree with Garnel that Trump won’t be convicted. Why? Lack of evidence of level of two witnesses the Gamara/Torah says is required to establish a matter. The Gamara is fascinating: high-level rabbinic discussions.

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  7. Nope he is actually guilty of many crimes as has been carefully documented

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  8. A new NBC News poll found that 60 percent of Americans think Trump shouldn’t try to retake the Oval Office — including roughly a third of Republicans. Thirty percent of those who think he shouldn’t campaign in 2024 cite the criminal charges he faces in New York as a “major” reason.

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  9. guilt is only determined by a court of law

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  10. Really. Has been convicted in a single court? You're again confusing "We've got all this evidence!" with "We've presented the evidence, Trump got to rebut it and it still held up!"

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  11. Charges yes,
    Ironheart is speaking about whether (in his imagination, "when") charges are dropped.

    Cannot prejudge the court decision before it happens.

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  12. Nope! A person who commits a crime for which there are not two witnesses and has not been convicted in court is considered as sinning and a criminal

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  13. Really? In which system are you making such a claim?

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  14. Yeah? Then why was the standard response to Rubashkin that since he wasn't tried in beis din he wasn't a criminal?

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  15. No, guilt is determined by the press and their biases.

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  16. No innocences is determined by the masses

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  17. No, it's determined by the courts.

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  18. Yes The Dayan HaEmet will bring every single act into judgement, I'm not disputing that.
    But the average man in the shtetel doesnt always know what went on, especially if there are no witnesses. Perhaps when there are 10 women witnesses, then we know, even without BD.

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  19. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/donald-trump-jean-carroll-rape-civil-trial-jury-2023-p89268387

    Trump rape trial

    we have no way of knowing if it really happened

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  20. You have no way of knowing most of what you claim to know

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  21. not every claim in the world is true
    So need to rely on corroboration, intelligence, skepticism, etc

    Even then we can't know everything.

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