Court documents, video evidence and news coverage show that several defendants present at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, had firearms — and dozens more wielded knives, bats and other real and makeshift weapons.
the point being , all these extreme survivalist militias did not make a show, or at least not with their weapons. 3 people out of 10s of thousdands. the NY subway system probably has more of theme
How much am I changing by? It's a very small statistical difference, I wholly accept I have to revise my claim. "
You say it is mistaken, is it wholy mistaken? For it to be wholy mistaken, you need to show that the militias came armed and dangerous. All you have shown is that 2 protestors had weapons in their cars, and one was carrying a gun.
lol - you say "not admitting error" Perhaps the error is something like the claim that only 3000 out of 3,000,000 served or were involved in the Golden calf. However, it says
In an article for Newsweek, Nick Suplina and Justin Wagner of Everytown for Gun Safety said they had identified "12 individuals allegedly tied to the events of Jan. 6 who were arrested in Washington, D.C., and charged with firearms offenses."
the figure of 12 is a claim made by a lobby group, not by Gov officials.
So confirmed is 3 or 4. Not a single shot was fired, nor were the guns toted. But yes, my initial claim has a a handful of exceptions t it - that does not make it a lie.
if you go to a football or baseball match, they will likely be handful of people in the stadium with guns. That doesn't mean that all spectators are armed and dangerous.
so let's conclude - my statement was not 100% accurate, and had some exceptiosn to it,. If you conisder that a to be a false statemnt or a lie, then fine, that is hwo you see things. I consider it a largely accurate statement, although some small exceptions render it not totally true. It is not a "lie" from my point of view. None of the people in the footage were seen with guns , brandishing them or using them. they dressed like idiots, acted like idiots, and their acts were totally wrong. It was not an armed insurrection - the arms that were found were not used in anger.
So don't ever drink pure fruit juice. Pure water. Or even take pure medicine, they are all adulterated with impurities. Even matzos you eat are chometz to a minute degree
were they fired? did they fire a single shot?
ReplyDeleteyou are changing the goal posts
ReplyDeleteYou made a false claim - why can't you admit it
How much am I changing by?
ReplyDeleteIt's a very small statistical difference, I wholly accept I have to revise my claim.
It's America. The story would've been if there weren't firearms.
ReplyDeletethe point being , all these extreme survivalist militias did not make a show, or at least not with their weapons. 3 people out of 10s of thousdands. the NY subway system probably has more of theme
ReplyDeleteAnd that cannot be accurate described as there were no weapons!
ReplyDeleteWow the salami approach!
ReplyDeleteWere any shots fired by the protestors? So no salami.
ReplyDeleteWe werent discussing shots!
ReplyDeletethere are better things to spend our time discussing
ReplyDeleteExamples?
ReplyDeleteYou still refuse to acknowledge you were wrong!
ReplyDeleteTorah
ReplyDeletePhilosophy,
History of Jewish communities
Science
Music
psychology...
I did, in my first response
ReplyDeleteDont see that you have ever admitted your claim was wrong. Trying to explain why it wasn't mistaken is not admitting error
ReplyDelete"Kalonymus HaQatan Daas Torah • 11 hours ago
ReplyDeleteHow much am I changing by?
It's a very small statistical difference, I wholly accept I have to revise my claim. "
You say it is mistaken, is it wholy mistaken?
For it to be wholy mistaken, you need to show that the militias came armed and dangerous. All you have shown is that 2 protestors had weapons in their cars, and one was carrying a gun.
Again you are insisting you were correct - not admitting error
ReplyDeletelol - you say "not admitting error"
ReplyDeletePerhaps the error is something like the claim that only 3000 out of 3,000,000 served or were involved in the Golden calf.
However, it says
וַיִּקָּהֵ֨ל הָעָ֜ם עַֽל־אַהֲרֹ֗ן וַיֹּאמְר֤וּ אֵלָיו֙ ק֣וּם ׀ עֲשֵׂה־לָ֣נוּ אֱלֹהִ֗ים אֲשֶׁ֤ר יֵֽלְכוּ֙ לְפָנֵ֔ינוּ כִּי־זֶ֣ה ׀ מֹשֶׁ֣ה הָאִ֗ישׁ אֲשֶׁ֤ר הֶֽעֱלָ֙נוּ֙ מֵאֶ֣רֶץ מִצְרַ֔יִם לֹ֥א יָדַ֖עְנוּ מֶה־הָ֥יָה לֽוֹ׃
and thenv וַיְהִי֙ מִֽמׇּחֳרָ֔ת וַיֹּ֤אמֶר מֹשֶׁה֙ אֶל־הָעָ֔ם אַתֶּ֥ם חֲטָאתֶ֖ם חֲטָאָ֣ה גְדֹלָ֑ה וְעַתָּה֙ אֶֽעֱלֶ֣ה 30:
so even the day after the 3000 were killed, the masses were still guilty of sinning.
Out of, lehavdil , the Trumpites, you have found 3 with guns.
In an article for Newsweek, Nick Suplina and Justin Wagner of Everytown for Gun Safety said they had identified "12 individuals allegedly tied to the events of Jan. 6 who were arrested in Washington, D.C., and charged with firearms offenses."
ReplyDeleteHe said, she said etc
ReplyDeletenope!
ReplyDelete3 and 12 are greater than zero even in England
ReplyDeleteIn statistics, such a number could be negligible , depending on the size of the cohort
ReplyDeleteIn real life claiming no guns when there were guns is considered a lie
ReplyDeletethe figure of 12 is a claim made by a lobby group, not by Gov officials.
ReplyDeleteSo confirmed is 3 or 4. Not a single shot was fired, nor were the guns toted. But yes, my initial claim has a a handful of exceptions t it - that does not make it a lie.
if you go to a football or baseball match, they will likely be handful of people in the stadium with guns. That doesn't mean that all spectators are armed and dangerous.
ReplyDeleteWow so a murderer can claim he only killed 1 out of millions which is statistically insignificant?
ReplyDeleteso let's conclude - my statement was not 100% accurate, and had some exceptiosn to it,. If you conisder that a to be a false statemnt or a lie, then fine, that is hwo you see things. I consider it a largely accurate statement, although some small exceptions render it not totally true. It is not a "lie" from my point of view. None of the people in the footage were seen with guns , brandishing them or using them. they dressed like idiots, acted like idiots, and their acts were totally wrong. It was not an armed insurrection - the arms that were found were not used in anger.
ReplyDeleteThe Police who were beaten by these "unarmed" rioters disagree
ReplyDeletePoor excuses for your false claim
ReplyDeleteException from facts are normally considered lies. Reframing does not make it true!
ReplyDeleteSo what?
ReplyDeleteJust like trump's crime were no different than not returning a library book on time
So don't ever drink pure fruit juice. Pure water. Or even take pure medicine, they are all adulterated with impurities.
ReplyDeleteEven matzos you eat are chometz to a minute degree
Famous defense - we are all a bit guilty, crazy, mentally ill. We all make mistakes - so no one should ever be convicted of crime or error
ReplyDeleteI didn't say that
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