Sunday, April 12, 2020

Meacham: This Could Change Us In The Way Pearl Harbor Changed Us | Morning Joe | MSNBC


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  1. “Meacham: This Could Change Us In The Way Pearl Harbor Changed Us”
    No. Peral Harbor December 7, 1941 changed USA policy to one America fighting in WW2 and ultimately winning WW2.
    I read and love Arutz Sheva’s opinions. See http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/25528
    “Pesach 1943: The importance of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising The brave but doomed Jewish revolt against the Nazis began on Passover Eve.”
    “The idea of armed resistance was first broached by the Zionist members of the Halutz youth movement in Vilna, Poland Gutman continued. Beginning in July, 1941 to the end of December, two-thirds of the Jewish community was deported. A number of survivors, who succeeded in escaping the deportations, returned to bear witness to how the Jews had been forcibly removed from their homes and taken to Ponary, near Vilna, where they were shot. On January 1, 1942, the Vilna Halutz movement issued a proclamation to the Jews of Vilna,”
    This was exactly Pearl Harbor time.
    We did an hours long Zoom eulogy for my dear brother, Rabbi Yitzchok ben Avraham Abba Hacohain זצ"ל who died of the Coronavirus. So sad. We are deep mourning. Nothing is comforting. Yes we talk of משיח and the next world. That’s what they did in Poland Pesach 1943.
    This coming Shabbat is שמיני. Torah thought.
    “Now Aaron’s sons Nadab and Abihu each took his fire pan, put fire in it, and laid incense on it; and they offered before the Lord alien fire אש זרה, which He had not commanded צוה them. And fire אש came forth from the Lord and devoured ותאכל them; thus they died before לפני the Lord.” (Leviticus 10:1-2).
    Moses commands the כהנים not to mourn:
    “And Moses said to Aaron and to his sons Eleazar and Ithamar, Do not bare your heads and do not rend your clothes, lest you die and anger strike the whole community. But your kinsmen, all the house of Israel, shall bewail the burning that the Lord has wrought. And so do not go outside the entrance of the Tent of Meeting, lest you die, for the Lord’s anointing oil is upon you. And they did as Moses had bidden.” (Leviticus 10:6-7).
    We mourn today. In Poland, Pesach 1943, the Jews knew their end was near. Bravo they mounted a resistance. We always fervently prayed for the משיח and for God’s miracles. Today I say Bravo to Netanyahu and to Trump. Let me quote:
    Proverbs 29:18 “When there is no vision באין חזון, a people lose restraint יפרע עם, But one who keeps Torah ושמר תורה, happy is he אשרהו.” Allow me to quote Malbim on Mishley, Wengrov, p. 295: ”When prophecy came to an end in Israel, moral chaos threatened. Without the guiding adjurations and reminders of the prophets, the people seemed ready to run amok. From this time, therefore, faithful observance of the Torah became all-important. Hence the last words of the last prophet, Malachi, “Behold, I am sending you Elijah the prophet...Remember the Torah of Moses My servant...” (Malachi 3:23,22).”

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  2. Well it all depends.
    Pearl Harbour changed the US because Americans got mad. Many had been pushing the isolationist position in the hope that the US would get left out of the war. The attack knocked them off their perch. Others wanted to get into the fight to knock out the fascists. This gave them the opportunity. But bottom line: Americans got mad.
    To make this outbreak like Pearl Harbour, Americans have to get mad and to do that, they need a target. The virus isn't a target. You can't see it and you can't hit it with a bat. The target will have to be China. The rallying cry will have to be "We're going to beat this epidemic better than any other country and then we're going to knock China down for doing this to us."

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  3. Yes, it's a fantasy. China sends defective PPE and test kits around the world and the liberal press writes about their generosity. They tie aid in Africa to allowing their industries unfettered control of the local economies and people talk about how they care about developing the world. After this is over they will spin their story about how this outbreak had nothing to do with them and that they are the true heroes who saved the world and people will nod. Sad.

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  4. This comment is just, well, weird.

    ...Although, granted, using kindergarten psychology in the service of political analysis may well be quite original.

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  5. Every crisis tangibly changes us. To cite just some examples from relatively recent memory: opioid addiction epidemic, subprime mortgage crisis, 9/11, government bailout of LTCM hedgefund, Black Monday....

    In each case, everyday standards were critically altered, and our outlook for the future radically shifted.

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  6. I read NY Times and BBC - arguably the two biggest liberal media outlets. Never ONCE did I notice either praise China for its generosity. And NY Times ran a long article going in detail on chinese propaganda related to coronavirus. NY Times also ran analyses on Chinese Africa policy. More than once.
    So the exact opposite of what you wrote.
    So yeah fantasy.
    Also totally irrelevant to the subject at hand.

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