another failed campaign promise
President Donald Trump campaigned on the promise that Mexico would pay for a border wall, yet stands firm on his call to U.S. lawmakers to provide money to construct it. All while also claiming that Mexico is already paying for the barrier.
"Mexico is paying for the Wall through the new USMCA Trade Deal. Much of the Wall has already been fully renovated or built. We have done a lot of work. $5.6 Billion Dollars that House has approved is very little in comparison to the benefits of National Security. Quick payback!" Trump tweeted Jan. 2.
Torah thought on this week’s parsha בא
ReplyDelete“So Moses and Aaron were brought back to Pharaoh and he said to them, Go, worship the Lord your God! Who are the ones to go? Moses replied, We will all go, young and old: we will go with our sons and daughters, our flocks and herds; for we must observe the Lord’s festival. But he said to them, The Lord be with you the same as I mean to let your children go with you! Clearly, you are bent on mischief. No! You menfolk go and worship the Lord, since that is what you want. And they were expelled from Pharaoh’s presence.” (Exodus 10:8-12).
Pharaoh asks who exactly is to go? This is a normal request since festivals in Egypt were kept by the whole population. Pharaoh replies ironically.
שמות פרק י פסוק יא
לֹא כֵן לְכוּ נָא הַגְּבָרִים וְעִבְדוּ אֶת יְקֹוָק כִּי אֹתָהּ אַתֶּם מְבַקְשִׁים וַיְגָרֶשׁ אֹתָם מֵאֵת פְּנֵי פַרְעֹה:
רש"י שמות פרשת בא פרק י פסוק יא
לא כן - כאשר אמרתם להוליך הטף עמכם אלא לכו נא הגברים ועבדו את ה':
כי אתה אתם מבקשים - כי אותהח בקשתם עד הנה (שמות ה ח) נזבחה לאלקינו, ואין דרך הטף לזבוח
מלבי"ם שמות פרק י פסוק יא
לא כן לכו נא הגברים וכו' כי אותה אתם מבקשים. בקשה זו הוא מענין תפלה, ר"ל הלא אתם הולכים לבקש אותה היינו את הרעה שהיא נגד פניכם תלכו לבקש ולחלות אותה לבקש מלפניה רצון שהרעה בל תרע לכם [כמו בצאנם ובבקרם ילכו לבקש את ה' [הושע ה'] לבקש את ה' צבאות [זכריה ח']] וא"כ איך תקחו את הטף:
The Malbim says that Pharaoh advises Moses and Aaron to seek the Lord that the sign that Pharaoh saw of blood and killing not harm them, as in Hosea 5 and in Zachariah 8:
“Then they will go with their sheep and cattle To seek the Lord לבקש את ה', but they will not find Him. He has cast them off: [Because] they have broken faith with the Lord, Because they have begotten Alien children. Therefore, the new moon Shall devour their portion.” (Hosea 5:6-7)
“Thus said the Lord of Hosts: Peoples and the inhabitants of many cities shall yet come—the inhabitants of one shall go to the other and say, Let us go and entreat the favor of the Lord, let us seek the Lord of Hosts לבקש את ה' צבקות; I will go, too. The many peoples and the multitude of nations shall come to seek the Lord of Hosts in Jerusalem and to entreat the favor of the Lord. Thus said the Lord of Hosts: In those days, ten men from nations of every tongue will take hold—they will take hold of every Jew by a corner of his cloak and say, Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.” (Zacharia 8:20-23).
Today in America, many Jews have begotten alien children. Here in Israel, G-d is with us. Hosea 5 applies to America and Zachariah 8 to Israel. Another reason rabbis in the US must teach more of the importance of Aliyah.
He's using the word "pay" in the way someone might say, "You'll pay for that remark!" He's putting the hurt on them in other ways by driving for tough trade agreements, etc.
ReplyDeleteDonald Trump is an honest man. He may play around with the truth, but if you live in the Trumpian Universe, that is honest behavior. You just have to get used to it. Get in the habit of interpreting and parsing what he says. Seriously.
How do you reconcile what you wrote with fag marches in Tel Aviv?
ReplyDeleteYou are being ridiculous. That is not at all what he meant. He meant that through his amazing negotiating skills he will get them to actually pay for it. And he probably believed that he would do that. He is as divorced from reality as the vast majority of his supporters.
ReplyDeleteyou think they don't have them in USA? USA is where all this started, unfortunately it has become a pgam, where they don't seem to have freewill anymore.
ReplyDeleteIn any case, most Orthodox rabbis encourage homsosexual bahaviour, because they think it is more acceptable than heterosexual behaviour, for those who are single. Some even practice pederasty.
ReplyDeleteJoseph Orlow says “How do you reconcile what you wrote with fag marches in Tel Aviv?”
ReplyDelete“Hear this, O priests, Attend, O House of Israel, And give ear, O royal house; For right conduct is your responsibility! But you have been a snare to Mizpah And a net spread out over Tabor; For when trappers dug deep pitfalls, I was the only reprover of them all. Yes, I have watched Ephraim, Israel has not escaped my notice: Behold, you have fornicated, O Ephraim; Israel has defiled himself! Their habits do not let them Turn back to their God; Because of the lecherous impulse within them, They pay no heed to the Lord. Israel’s pride shall be humbled before his very eyes, As Israel and Ephraim fall because of their sin (And Judah falls with them). Then they will go with their sheep and cattle To seek the Lord, but they will not find Him. He has cast them off: [Because] they have broken faith with the Lord בה' בגדו, Because they have begotten Alien children כי בנים זרים ילדו. Therefore, the new moon Shall devour their portion. (Hosea 5:1-7).
Fag marches in Tel Aviv – awful – no comparison to adultery, one of the 10 commandments... The K-G heter, ORA, Agunah International and such can lead to adultery. My argument with SCOTUS is that Judge Prus overstepped his authority to approve the fake/phony 1995 Rigler Order of Separation. Rabbis Kamenetsky, Greenblatt, ORA etc overstepped their authority to approve fake/phony documents to nullify a marriage. Did Judge Prus want his son to marry Susan? Rabbis Kamenetsky, Greenblatt wanted Tamar to marry her lover without a divorce... That’s adultery. “Because they have begotten Alien children כי בנים זרים ילדו. Therefore, the new moon Shall devour their portion.”
Technical adultery might not be the same as real cheating adultery. Perhaps in biblical times there was a mechanism for a woman to Grant a divorce or for a prophet to annul the marriage .
ReplyDeleteHomosexual behavior has similar status to adultery.
IN OTHER WORDS YOU CAN ONLY UNDERSTAND HIS WORDS BY TWISTING THEM!
ReplyDeleteIS ENGLISH HIS NATIVE LANGUAGE OR DO YOU NEED TO FIND A TRANSLATOR?
In all seriousness, a Trumplation translation app on phones would go a long way towards uniting the country.
ReplyDeleteReality and I are happily married and she says, "Hi!"
ReplyDeleteif you are saying you are married to Trump
ReplyDeleteit sounds like time for divorce
(Bli Neder) Never! Even ORA can't separate me from my allegiance.
ReplyDelete"most Orthodox rabbis encourage homsosexual bahaviour (sic)"???
ReplyDeleteWhat are you smoking? Orthodox? "Most"???,
According to Torah Law, there is NO mechanism for a woman to grant a divorce to her husband.
ReplyDeleteNor is there a special mechanism for a prophet to annul a marriage. If there is halachic grounds for it, then any Beis Din can do so. If there are insufficient halachic grounds for an annulment, then even a prophet as great as Moshe Rabbeinu would not be able to pull off an annulment.
Male-male homosexual behavior carries a much more severe form of death penalty over adultery. Whereas adultery "merely" gets חנק, homosexuality "earns" סקילה for those engaging in it.
Are you a prophet? Do you know all the Torah that was known in biblical times?
ReplyDeleteGerald is suggesting otherwise, because he argues it's in the 10 commandments.
Most orthodox forbid contact with females, correct?
ReplyDeleteThey do permit physical contact with males and social contact in all male situation, yeshiva.
Homosexual means same - sex (Greek for same). Hence homosexual behavior. Also, heterosexual thought is assur, which can only lead to other forms of sexual thoughts.
The Trump campaign released a detailed plan how Mexico would pay for the wall. They said they would ban undocumented people from sending wire transfers, thereby threatening the money Mexican laborers send back to their families. If Mexico would pay for the wall, the U.S. would cancel the ban. This is publicly available information.
ReplyDeleteHis administration had 2 years when they were in full control of the government and could have enacted this plan if they wanted. They did not, because Trump would much prefer to have the wall as a talking point to rile up his base then to have an actual wall, which would be 99% pointless.
I note, that the term "homosexual behavior" usually refers to SEXUAL contact between the same sex.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.conservapedia.com/Homosexual_behavior
According to Torah Law, male-male contact is only permitted if it doesn't have any sexual undertones. If all that you were referring to is regarding platonic behavior, then I apologize.
If I must say so myself, I'm quite well versed in most areas of Torah Law, which includes the Torah that was known in Biblical times. I'm not a prophet, but I know the rules applying to prophets and to the annulment of marriages.
ReplyDeleteAccording to many commentators (Ibn Ezra, Chizkuni, Sforno) לא תנאף does not ONLY mean "Do not commit adultery". It also includes any type of prohibited sexual acts.
According to the Talmud (Niddah 13b) the verse also includes proscribes male masturbation.
תנא דבי רבי ישמעאל "לא תנאף", לא תהא בך ניאוף בין ביד בין ברגל
Rashi (ibid.)
ביד - מוציא זרע לבטלה
[See also Bach (EH 23, s.v Assur)].
IsraelReader says “If I must say so myself, I'm quite well versed in most areas of Torah Law...” May I show here my letter today?
ReplyDelete1.I request permission to submit these papers concerning my motion 2018 - 1149 12/10/2018. I'm attaching an affidavit of service proving I mailed by UPS a true copy to Susan.
I attach: 1) Exhibit A: Jerusalem Court to Rabbi Ralbag 1/21/1993.
2.Allow me to show here my Etrack cases:...
3.Exhibit A: Jerusalem Court to Rabbi Ralbag 1/21/1993 shows that indeed Susan was under the jurisdiction of the Jerusalem Court. Why? Rabbi Ralbag was Susan's friend in many feminists matters of forcing gittin on recalcitrant husbands. Rabbi Ralbag knew that Susan would never leave America and I would never leave Israel. Allow me to quote Kethuboth 110b Soncino translation:
Mishnah. [a man] may compel all [his household] to go up [lit., cause to go up] [with him] to the land of israel., but none may be compelled to leave it. All [one's household] may be compelled to go up [lit., cause to go up] to Jerusalem [from any other Palestinian place], but none may be compelled to leave it. [this applies to] both men and women [A wife also may compel her husband to live with her in Jerusalem or the Land of Israel and, if he refuses, she is entitled to demand a divorce and the payment of her kethubah.]. If a man married a woman in the land of Israel and divorced her in the land of Israel, he must pay her [her kethubah] in the currency of the land of Israel. If he married a woman in the land of Israel and divorced her in Cappadocia he must pay her [her kethubah] in the currency of the land of Israel [The Cappadocian coins were dearer than the corresponding ones of the Land of Israel.]. If he married a woman in Cappadocia and divorced her in the land of Israel, he must a gain pay [her kethubah] in the currency of the land of Israel. R. Simeon b. Gamaliel, however, ruled that he must pay her in the Cappadocian currency. If a man married a woman in Cappadocia and divorced her in Cappadocia, he must pay her [her kethubah] in the currency of Cappadocia.
4.Rabbi Ralbag knew well that Jewish law is that a man may compel his wife to leave America and live with him in Jerusalem. All of Susan's court actions in NYS were nonsense and a waste of time. Certainly the rabbinic court in Jerusalem had jurisdiction over the 2/17/1993 divorce/get. I quote the Bible: “The first to plead his case seems right Till the other party examines him” (Proverbs 18:17).
IsraelReader, are you Rabbi Ralbag?
hugging a girl vs hugging a guy
ReplyDeleteEven if you are a Posek HaDor, that does not mean you know Torah like King Solomon or King David did. You only know how recent poskim interpret the Law, but you do not really know how they interpreted it 3000 years ago.
ReplyDeleteDo you think that in Biblical times they had a shulchan aruch, and minhagim? Did they concern themselves with wearing kippot, nagelwasser etc? It was a completely different Torah then. So yes, in terms of the current Shulchan Aruch based halacha, you are probably correct - but that does not mean they followed shulchan aruch in Biblical times.
It's great sport those rallies where we get riled up. The wall itself is really pointless. It's just a way to score points over the pro-open borders crowd.
ReplyDeleteIn the literal sense of the word, you would say that a guy hugging a guy is technically "homosexual" behavior, since it involves two people of the same sex.
ReplyDeleteI argue that we need to look at the intent of the hugging. If it was for sexual reasons, then it would be prohibited.
Hugging a girl who is not related to you, is prohibited in any situation, regardless of intent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negiah
Don't introduce red herrings like kippot and negel-vasser.
ReplyDeleteThe discussion is exclusively regarding a woman to granting her husband a divorce, or regarding a prophet annulling a marriage.
Regarding the above issues, I believe that the Torah we have today is exactly as Hashem commanded us at Sinai.
As spelled out in Devarim 24:1-2, a married couple is released from the bonds of matrimony through the transmission of a bill of divorce from the husband to the wife. There is absolutely no Biblical mechanism for a woman to grant a divorce to her husband.
Once that point is established, we continue to the next point, which is that a prophet may not transgress Torah law, or create "new" laws.
(שבת ק"ד ע"א)
"אלה הדברים, שאין הנביא רשאי לחדש דבר מעתה"
(תורת כהנים סו"פ י"ג)
"אלה המצוות, אין נביא רשאי לחדש עוד דבר מעתה"
There is no Biblical source that a prophet has special authority to override Devarim 24:1-2.
There is no "pro-open borders" crowd.
ReplyDeleteNo. I'm not Rabbi Ralbag, nor am I his spokesperson.
ReplyDeletePlease don't mix me into your issues with Susan.
If you have a point in Halacha that you would like to discuss, I can try to help you.
IsraelReader says “No. I'm not Rabbi Ralbag, nor am I his spokesperson. Please don't mix me into your issues with Susan.If you have a point in Halacha that you would like to discuss, I can try to help you.”
ReplyDeleteI just spoke with NYS Ct of Appeals. All my letters go before all the judges. Thursday is the next decision release date. If my motion 18-1149 is on the list Thursday, then they will return my letter today, follow IsraelReader? Note that I quote the Mishna in Yevamouth to the judges in my letter today. Do you think it helps my case? Truth is I don’t take NYS court matters seriously. Should I?
Torah thought on this week’s parsha בא
“And the Lord said to Moses, I will bring but one more plague upon Pharaoh and upon Egypt; after that he shall let you go from here; indeed, when he lets you go, he will drive you out of here one and all. Tell דבר נא באזני העם the people to borrow, each man from his neighbor and each woman from hers, objects of silver and gold.” (Exodus 11:1-2).
רש"י שמות פרשת בא פרק יא פסוק ב
דבר נא - אין נא אלא לשון בקשה, בבקשה ממך הזהירם על כך שלא יאמר אותו צדיק אברהם (בראשית טו יג) ועבדום וענו אותם קיים בהם, (שם יד) ואחרי כן יצאו ברכוש גדול לא קיים בהם:
“And He said to Abram, Know well that your offspring shall be strangers in a land not theirs, and they shall be enslaved and oppressed four hundred years; but I will execute judgment on the nation they shall serve, and in the end they shall go free with great wealth ברכוש גדוך.” (Genesis 15:13-14).
The great wealth G-d promised Abraham was the Torah on Mount Sinai. The Jews then didn’t know Torah, but did know of G-d’s promises to Abraham. Objects of silver and gold are not great wealth to Jews that keep Torah. There is a message that G-d keeps his promises however we interpret them.
Follow, IsraelReader? I’m not after gold and silver. I never was.
", I believe that the Torah we have today is exactly as Hashem commanded us at Sinai."
ReplyDeleteReally? I think that's a misreading of the Rambam 13 ikkarim.
Read Rav Yaakov Weinberg s book on the 13 principles.
There is no Torah master scroll from 3300 years ago for us to compare with. It used to be with the kohen gadol, but sadly we no longer have it. Even the Hebrew script we use is not the same.
Do you think that Devarim 24:1-2 was not in the original Torah from Hashem?
ReplyDeleteDo you believe that a prophet has special authority to override explicit verses in the Torah?
Gerald, you keep asking people on here if they are ralbag or other characters in your personal drama. Please try to separate your private life from discussions that unconnected persons on here are having. Follow?
ReplyDeleteYes I do believe in bereishis all the way to Devarim.
ReplyDeleteWHAT was Moses? A prophet.
What did he do regarding daughters of tzelophachad? He asked via Nevuah to override existing Torah law.
So, it is possible that a later prophet, or shofet , or Kohen gadol with urim vtuvtumim could likewise ask a question.
No laws were "overridden" in the case of the daughters of Tzelafchad.
ReplyDeleteHashem merely broadened the inheritance of the Land of Israel to include them, and laid down the parameters for the chain of succession in various cases of inheritance [Bamidbar 27]. All this became part of the canon of Torah.
You cannot discuss Torah interpretation over the ages without discussing how both methodology and halachic changes over time.
ReplyDeleteThose examples show how Halacha changed historically.
I have no proof, I'm just saying its possible there were other solutions in the past.
there is no open border crowd it is s just another of Trump's a alternative facts
ReplyDeleteThis was a change in the law based on perception of injustice. Had the daughters not made such a fuss , it might not have changed. Torah itself tells us to go to the shofet or kohen when we cannot resolve something locally. The point being, the Torah is speaking about life after the giving of the Torah. Why do you think we have shofetim, as per the sefer? If a problem arises that the rabbis in bnei brak cannot solve, you go to the shofet or kohen. Do you accept that verse in the Torah?
ReplyDeleteThe case of the daughters of Tzelafchad is not "after the giving of the Torah". It's PART of the Torah, and nothing was overridden.
ReplyDeleteGoing to the shofet or kohen is for getting clarification regarding obscure areas of Torah, not for getting a pass to override the Torah.
I'm not discussing "Torah interpretation over the ages".
ReplyDeleteI'm addressing the very specific cases that you alleged.
They are not dependent on "interpretation". They are pretty explicit verses.
Up until the request of the daughters of Tzelophachad, the Torah law was inheritance to the males.
ReplyDeleteIn Bamidbar 27, we see their petition, and G-d's answer:
7 'The daughters of Zelophehad speak right: thou shalt surely give them a possession of an inheritance among their father's brethren; and thou shalt cause the inheritance of their father to pass unto them.
You don't like the word "override", but instead you suggested Hashem "broadened" the existing Torah law.
The fact that this took place during Moses' time is irrelevant, since the right and commandment to petition the L-rd continues after the completion of the Humash of Moses, via the navi or the Kohen or the Shofet.
If, there was an agunah who could not get a divorce from her husband, and she did petition, eg via the navi, it is up to Hashem to answer. It would not "override" the divorce laws, and according to your terminology, would "broaden" them to allow the woman to give the get. that is still an if, since I do not have evidence this was ever asked, nor that it was ever granted. however, the possibility remains.
"Going to the shofet or kohen is for getting clarification regarding obscure areas of Torah, not for getting a pass to override the Torah."
Or for injustices or circumstances not specified in the existing Torah.
Hugging a girl is prohibited, hence it is pererting the natural behaviour of healthy men - which in an all male environment can lead to homosexual perversion.
ReplyDeleteEverything is dependent on interpretation. the fact that the Torah mentions a Book of Kritut does not mean there are no other ways the divorce can take place.
ReplyDeleteHow do you know that there was no other interpretation in Biblical times? All we can infer from Devarim 24 is that whereas a woman who remarries, cannot return to her former husband after divorcing the subsequent husband, this does not apply to a man who marries a second woman and then wants to return to his first wife.
Rambam's MT Mamrim 2:1.
בֵּית
דִּין הַגָּדוֹל שֶׁדָּרְשׁוּ בְּאַחַת מִן הַמִּדּוֹת כְּפִי מַה
שֶׁנִּרְאָה בְּעֵינֵיהֶם שֶׁהַדִּין כָּךְ, וְדָנוּ דִּין, וְעָמַד
אַחֲרֵיהֶם בֵּית דִּין אַחֵר, וְנִרְאָה לוֹ טַעַם אַחֵר לִסְתֹּר אוֹתוֹ
הַדִּין--הֲרֵי זֶה סוֹתֵר, וְדָן כְּפִי מַה שֶׁיֵּרָאֶה בְּעֵינָיו:
שֶׁנֶּאֱמָר "אֶל-הַשֹּׁפֵט, אֲשֶׁר יִהְיֶה בַּיָּמִים הָהֵם" (דברים יז,ט)--אֵין אַתָּה חַיָּב לָלֶכֶת, אֵלָא אַחַר בֵּית דִּין שֶׁבְּדוֹרָךְ.
therefore, there is no limitation on a Beit Din gadol on reinterpreting Torah and halacha the way they see fit. this is also logically true fo the Kohen gadol and shofet.
I told you it is your Klipois talking!
ReplyDeleteCorrect ! Indisputable!
ReplyDeleteAm Haoretz!
ReplyDeleteblah blah berel - you are not acquainted with the Rambam. Are you rejecting what Rambam says here? Berel Apikores!
ReplyDeleteThat's why you attack the Arizal, the Rambam, the Ramban, Rav Chaim Vitale, etc. because of someone's "klipos".
ReplyDeleteDoes Rambam use the term "klipos"?
It is indisputable, then it is also disputable - if another BD learns differently
ReplyDeleteIn the torah, Bamidbar 27, Hashem says "7 'The daughters of Zelophehad speak right: thou shalt surely give them a
ReplyDeletepossession of an inheritance among their father's brethren; and thou
shalt cause the inheritance of their father to pass unto them."
Hos so? how can daughters , who are am haartzim, speak right, to the already established torah law?
IR says this is the Torah - but it was after they petitioned.
Follow, Gerald, IR, Berel?
IR said "The case of the daughters of Tzelafchad is not "after the giving of the Torah"."
ReplyDeleteIt is after the Giving/receiving of Torah at Sinai, which was approx 50 days after Yetziat Mitzrayim. From the context of Bamidbar, this is well after Matan Torah - it is on the plains of Moav, before entering EY.
Not trying to play semantics with you - the point being that this is a case where a lowly petition from daughters of a sinner, affects the final form the Torah Law.
I theorize that someone coming from a secular background, where he was used to being physical with women, and is now thrust into abstention, might be more tempted to satisfy his cravings with what’s available; men.
ReplyDeleteWhereas people who were religious from birth, and never experienced active sexuality, will not be as tempted to be sexually physical with another male.
Torah was being given to B'nei Yisrael for 40 years, and the stories that happened during those years became part of the Torah.
ReplyDeleteAt the end of Moshe's life, Torah was sealed, and nothing could be added or changed.
Rambam does not refer to negating explicit verses.
ReplyDeleteBerel, this is your kelipos:
ReplyDelete"Moshe Ayre Friedman, an Austrian rabbi, argued that the figure of six
million Jewish dead had come from a prophecy by Theodore Herzl, founder
of modern Zionism, long before the second world war. He said recent
research suggested the true figure was about one million. "Politically
and historically, the land of Palestine doesn't belong to the Jews and
should be returned to Palestinians," he said."
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/dec/12/iran.israel
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5aae9fdfbbb083600ab6c1bfe1ec99e4ee859c302d7c2b39ce4b78819085f45d.jpg
Berel, here are the people you associate with
ReplyDeletehttps://searchworks.stanford.edu/view/8215911
Contents
Address by H.E. Rabbi yisroel Dovid Weiss from Neturei Karta
Orthodox Jewish attitude to the Holocaust / Rabbi Ahron Cohen
The victories of revisionism / Robert Faurisson
Material evidence, documentary evidence, and eyewitness testimony in the Holocaust controversy / Jurgen Graf
The Holocaust-Shoah in time & space, not memory / Fredrick Toben
The untold story of men of Jewish descent who served in Hitler's Wehrmacht and Waffen-Schutz Staffel / Veronica Clark
The Nazi gas chambers : rumours, lies, and reality / Alexander Baron
Our mission : to disrupt the global slander and help build a more honest world / George Theil
The Holocaust demography / Jan Bernhoff
A philosopher looks at the Holocaust / Patrick Henry McNally
The Israeli Mossad role in the JFK assassination conspiracy / Michael Collins Piper
The Holocaust, the Achilles' heel of an ancient Jewish Trojan / Tarik Ahmed
The geopolitical environment of the Holocaust myth / Alfonsos Pangas
Israel : the doomed Zionist project / Mohammed A. Hegazi
Freedom of speech and the Holocaust / David Duke
Ashkenazi warriors : liberalism, Holocaust, and the war on Muslims / Shiraz Dossa
The Holocaust debate in Danish media, 1998-2006 / Christian Lindtner
The Islamic looking-glass of sacrifice & offering / Leonardo Alaeddin Clerici
The irrational vocabulary of the American professorial class with regard to the Holocaust question / Bradley R. Smith
Freedom of speech / Michele Renouf
The Holocaust, the Zionists' insiduous benchmark for war atrocities / Matthias Chang
Freedom of speech and the stance of Holocaust deniers in the west / Peter Topfer
Holocaust and black propaganda / Bernhard Schaub
Genocide and Holocaust : from philosophic ideas to inhuman practice / Victor Nadein-Raevskiy.
I agree with you. When did circumcision become part of the Torah for example? Why didn't Moshe circumcise his sons, or in fact the whole Israelite people in the Midbar? But that is going off in a tangent.
ReplyDeleteAt the same time the Torah tells us to go to High Priest or High Court to deal with areas we cannot get answers to.
I maintain that there may have been solutions to problems we cannot solve today. You are saying that the halachic solutions we have today were also the only ones we had 3000 years ago. But how can you prove your statement? (i cannot prove mine either).
BTW, when King David's wife was taken by another man, how comes he was permitted to take her back? She was actually married to another man!
You !attack The Whole torah . You are a Klipah
ReplyDeletereally, why is there so much child abuse in the frum world then?
ReplyDeleteOnly a BD that is Greater in Number or chochmah
ReplyDeleteToday not Possible too much KLipos!
you are totally nuts. and nuts have a very hard klipah!
ReplyDeleteKfirah!
ReplyDeleteGo back to Aish Hatorah for a few years!
or go to the Zahal
i'm not talking about today, you have not been following the discussion, so you have entered into the wrong end of the stick.
ReplyDeleteRambam is kfirah? who are you to say so? imbecile!
ReplyDeletehow do you define what is explicit?
ReplyDeleteHe is saying that a different BD might use midot to interpret things differently from a previous BD. That is all I am saying.
Zahal? No, it is shmad! hhhaaa
ReplyDeleteberel, do you know who your friends are?
ReplyDeleteד וּדְבוֹרָה אִשָּׁה נְבִיאָה, אֵשֶׁת לַפִּידוֹת--הִיא שֹׁפְטָה אֶת-יִשְׂרָאֵל, בָּעֵת הַהִיא.
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ה וְהִיא יוֹשֶׁבֶת תַּחַת-תֹּמֶר דְּבוֹרָה, בֵּין הָרָמָה וּבֵין
בֵּית-אֵל--בְּהַר אֶפְרָיִם; וַיַּעֲלוּ אֵלֶיהָ בְּנֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל,
לַמִּשְׁפָּט.
You see, the halacha as we have today was not the same as it was 3000 years ago. Today Orthodoxy does not permit women rabbis, dayanim, or poskim. In the Tenach times it did.
That is total nonsense. The Rambam rules explicitly (Mamrim 1:2) that that condition applies only to gezeiros and takanos, not to derashos.
ReplyDeleteIt says in the verse that a sefer kerisus works. The idea that only that works is a derasha.
ReplyDeleteGreater in numbers is regarding fences, as Yehoshua points out. Raavad does not accept this, showing how yochanan b. Zakkai cancelled a gezeira. HaMeiri says that when the reason disappears, the gezeira disappears, no bd required.
ReplyDeleteI'm talking about Bible times, eg Devorah was Eim beit din! Not allowed in meah reform shearim.
Almonds and walnuts have really tough kelipos. Sunflower seeds not.
ReplyDeleteYou cannot entertain the possibility of having an Eim Beis Din - not possible in Eidah, and not possible in Tehran, with your Amalek kin.
ReplyDeleteHowever, for those of us who do accept the Neviim, we had an Eim Beis Din 3000 years ago!
the above people are not Jews, they are Muslim and pseudo muslims.
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