Friday, November 18, 2016

Post-Truth at the Aguda Convention: The Kaminetsky-Greenblatt Heter and viewing R Shmuel Kaminetsky as a leader

It is truly touching that this assembly is concerned with Jews going off the derech. But at the same time it is truly tragic that the hypocrisy of R Shmuel Kaminetsky's promotion of adultery is ignored. After all he only engineered the heter - it is R Greenblatt's fault for giving it. He has stated he has no responsibility to stop this adultery - even though it is clear to all that if he has the ability to stop it. It is truly tragic that this assembly doesn't see a relationship between Jews going off the derech and the blatant hypocrisy of their leaders who know - but do and say nothing.


Addressing the theme “Understanding, Recognizing and Appreciating Who We Are,” the 94th annual convention of Agudath Israel of America commenced Thursday at the Crowne Plaza Hotel in Stamford, CT. Laymen and businessmen came together with Gedolim and Rabbanim at the much-anticipated annual event.. [...]

Harav Shmuel Kamenetsky, shlita, delivered greetings on behalf of the Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah of America.

Harav Kamenetsky noted that in terms of the convention theme, we are all children of Avraham Avinu and strive to follow the path that the Avos forged for us. He cited the Chasam Sofer who explained that although Avraham could have sat and learned Torah his entire life, he saw it as his duty to bring people closer to Hashem. After he reached out to the entire world and influenced them, as a result he grew much more than he would have had he used that time exclusively for himself. In our times the Rosh Yeshivah lamented, Yidden are, R”l, going lost and it should behoove us to endeavor to bring them back. We are all children of Avraham Avinu and therefore this is our avodah, said the Rosh Yeshivah.[...]

6 comments:

  1. What is untruthful about what he said? True, I wouldn't want to eat Kosher meat cooked in a pot that was being used for Traif (without being Kashered in the interim). But the meat did start out Kosher.

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  2. “In our times the Rosh Yeshivah lamented, Yidden are, R”l, going lost and it should behoove us to endeavor to bring them back.”
    I live in Bnei Brak. Rabbi Kamenitsky is pained about America Jews. I don’t see in Israel, Yidden going lost---the opposite, I see increasing learning and mitzvot. I quote Hosea, the prophet of Northern Israel, who was so pained at Jews going lost in Samaria while Jews in Judah were righteous:
    “Samaria must bear her guilt, For she has defied her God. must bear her guilt, For she has defied her God. They shall fall by the sword, Their infants shall be dashed to death, And their women with child ripped open. Return, O Israel, to the Lord your God, For you have fallen because of your sin. Take words with you And return to the Lord. Say to Him: Forgive all guilt And accept what is good; Instead of bulls we will pay [The offering of] our lips” (Hosea 14:1-3).
    מלבי"ם הושע פרק יד פסוק ב
    (ב) ... והנה תחלה אמר שובה עד ה', מלת עד מציין שה' עומד רחוק מהם והם צריכים ללכת אליו עד שיגיעו עדיו, עד המקום אשר הוא שם, ר"ל שיעזבו את עונותיהם הקודמים ויתחרטו על העבר שטעו מני דרך בטעות ובאונס ומבקשים הדרך לשוב עד ה':
    מלבי"ם הושע פרק יד פסוק ג
    (ג) קחו. מוסיף עוד שאחר שתגיעו עד ה' ותהיו קרובים אצלו אז תוסיפו להטיב מעשיכם להבא ולעשות תשובה מאהבה עד שתקחו עמכם דברים היינו ענינים שהם ידברו ויליצו יושר עליכם וילמדו עליכם זכות, שהוא מצות ומעשים טובים שתעשו, ושובו שנית אל ה', והיא התשובה מאהבה, שלא יוחשבו הזדונות לשגגות רק לזכיות, ואז לא תהיה הסליחה בעבור שיוחשב אונס ושוגג ומוטעה, רק תהיה הסליחה ע"י שיראה זכיותיהם וצדקותיהם שיקחו עמהם לדבר זכות עליהם, ובזה יסלח להם הגם שיוחשב שחטאו תחלה במזיד, בראותו שאחרי שפשעו נגדו שבו לאהבתו ועבודתו בכל לב ולא מיראת העונש רק מאהבה...
    Jews of America: make Aliya!

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  3. Please let me clarify, if I may. Although the Yeshiva promotes Torah (Kosher meat), but since the promoted substance they distribute, i.e. Kfiyas haGet and alleged Mekach Taus cooked up throughout and within the K's (the pot), makes everything treif. As the good book says, treif top, treif lefil.
    What they have learnt from Avraham Avinu, maybe the consumption bassar becholov of oso ve'es bno behelem achas.

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  4. How pathetic . It's what I call the Woodstock phenomenon .every year August 25 to see hundreds of motorcyclists converging on Bethel New York Woodstock farm trying to relive the glory of Woodstock back in 69 they were young now there walking around with long white beards long white here overweight but still trying to capture the joy of youth .
    backwind then when real gedolim them were the ones who ran aguda, after all they founded it and ran it on a day-to-day basis with the help of the very few layman the convention was an opportunity to one and all to hear the real opinions of the sages .

    Today just one look at the pictures as hard as they try to obscure the poor attendance it seems that the ratio of dais to attendees is roughly 40/60. clearly having a marketing firm deciding the thing and every speech must be vetted by some politically correct apparatchiks in the aguda office , with only the politically correct rabbis invited to speak the entire idea of a convention has become so artificial that even those who want a weekend away from home don't find it very enticing to hear the same pablum spewed at them.
    The only ones only who attend are those trying to relive the old glory.
    the glory was hearing daas torah of true gedolim without it being filtered.
    you're not going to find that at the aguda convention

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  5. This OTD business comes for moshivim Dayonim she'einom mehugonim. These children nebach are swept under the rug, and has no more room for more. They had been had, only to be thrown under the Bus treated like squeezed lemons. Can't you feel their pain? Instead of just talking, why don't you do something about it? Sarah pointed out to Avraham Avinu to send away yishmael Ki metzachek. Hey guys, why don't you listen to this clip how dam achinu tzoakim elay min ha'adaama, Huh, and become much wiser:
    https://youtu.be/_jMUXUCPulY

    Sorry. I'm Sorry... "

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jMUXUCPulY

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  6. Interesting that he talks about K'hal - when he is responsible for Aishes Ish, and future Mamzeiros.,

    His lecturing about Klal Yisroel's Kedusha, is the equivalent of Arafat's Nobel lecture of world peace....

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