Years ago I was heavily into fighting pedophiles and I taught my children to watch out for chazir menshen. One day my son was putting away some books in a shull near my house and he came racing into the house saying, "Chazir mensh." I was out the door in a flash and I saw somebody running up the street. He beat me to the bus by a few steps, which was fortunate for both of us because he had not yet done the real illegal stuff and I was not in a good mood. A father can convey what he wants in the words Chazir Mensh.
I work with the media and was once invited to speak to the country newspaper's editorial staff during its annual retreat. Gedolim of the past generation trained me in dealing with secular media. The purpose of all of this is kiddush HaShem. Sometimes you present a good side of the people who are being accused, and sometimes you say other things. Once I did that and my neighbors came over and shook my hand. They are sick and tired of people getting a bad name because of the scum.
Let them read it and ask their parents what it means. The parents might be able to talk to them about it and help them not become victims in the future.
If a poster ("pashkvil") is posted (illegally, by the way) on a wall that does NOT belong to the ones posting it, and if many posts are supposedly posted by people without getting permission, and while there are rabbonim who give tacit approval but don't want their names on the posters, so why shouldn't ANYONE who comes along read the posts?
If you don't want kids reading the posts, then don't post them. Who is going to monitor the kids from reading posters? Special "tznius squads" who will beat the kids up or throw acid into their faces if they catch their own kids reading allegations of "shmutz"?
The whole concept of posters is so bizzare and outmoded, only the most Charedi neighborhoods rely on them, because they don't have radio or ban other forms of media, so this is a quick fix method from the days of the wild west, when printing was first invented and "wanted dead or alive" print out could be humg up quickly. It's a kind of wild west mentality altogether that rules, and this a very quixotic kind of question.
By the way, why aren't you focusing on the mass shooting murder of 20 kids and 2 teachers in Connected by a twenty year old loner? There are are surely some important "mussar haskels" from that situation, than there is about asking if bored school kids in Yerushalayim should be allowed if what some miscreants who have time to burn post on other people's walls in acts of public vandalism and graffiti on paper. The posters and printers of the verbal garbage on them should be made to stop doing it and clean up their messes, or be fined, and if repeat offenders should be sent to jail to scrub floors where they can learn that you cannot paste whatever you like on any old wall.
These posters are for parents. Since children can read them, and they are inappropriate for them, this is not the best method to communicate the messages. Parents must be kept informed. Someone needs to develop a more fitting avenue of communication.
Please tell us what the posters say.
ReplyDeleteIf these girls are American they probably don't know enough Hebrew to understand what it says.
this picture was taken in Beith Shemesh. The poster is accusing a particular individual of being a pedophile.
DeleteYears ago I was heavily into fighting pedophiles and I taught my children to watch out for chazir menshen. One day my son was putting away some books in a shull near my house and he came racing into the house saying, "Chazir mensh." I was out the door in a flash and I saw somebody running up the street. He beat me to the bus by a few steps, which was fortunate for both of us because he had not yet done the real illegal stuff and I was not in a good mood. A father can convey what he wants in the words Chazir Mensh.
DeleteGreat but I see also that you didn't run to WPIX or CNN that they have there and blamed the entire community because of the the chazir menchen.
DeleteI work with the media and was once invited to speak to the country newspaper's editorial staff during its annual retreat. Gedolim of the past generation trained me in dealing with secular media. The purpose of all of this is kiddush HaShem. Sometimes you present a good side of the people who are being accused, and sometimes you say other things. Once I did that and my neighbors came over and shook my hand. They are sick and tired of people getting a bad name because of the scum.
DeleteLet them read it and ask their parents what it means. The parents might be able to talk to them about it and help them not become victims in the future.
ReplyDeleteIf a poster ("pashkvil") is posted (illegally, by the way) on a wall that does NOT belong to the ones posting it, and if many posts are supposedly posted by people without getting permission, and while there are rabbonim who give tacit approval but don't want their names on the posters, so why shouldn't ANYONE who comes along read the posts?
ReplyDeleteIf you don't want kids reading the posts, then don't post them. Who is going to monitor the kids from reading posters? Special "tznius squads" who will beat the kids up or throw acid into their faces if they catch their own kids reading allegations of "shmutz"?
The whole concept of posters is so bizzare and outmoded, only the most Charedi neighborhoods rely on them, because they don't have radio or ban other forms of media, so this is a quick fix method from the days of the wild west, when printing was first invented and "wanted dead or alive" print out could be humg up quickly. It's a kind of wild west mentality altogether that rules, and this a very quixotic kind of question.
By the way, why aren't you focusing on the mass shooting murder of 20 kids and 2 teachers in Connected by a twenty year old loner? There are are surely some important "mussar haskels" from that situation, than there is about asking if bored school kids in Yerushalayim should be allowed if what some miscreants who have time to burn post on other people's walls in acts of public vandalism and graffiti on paper. The posters and printers of the verbal garbage on them should be made to stop doing it and clean up their messes, or be fined, and if repeat offenders should be sent to jail to scrub floors where they can learn that you cannot paste whatever you like on any old wall.
These posters are for parents. Since children can read them, and they are inappropriate for them, this is not the best method to communicate the messages. Parents must be kept informed. Someone needs to develop a more fitting avenue of communication.
ReplyDeleteI agree everybody should get a smartphone!
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