tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post8364055655411305471..comments2024-03-29T12:21:24.976+03:00Comments on Daas Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: Rabbeinu Yonah: Ma'us alei - Mitzva to divorce wifeDaas Torahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-48792626753028055902019-06-26T13:29:36.552+03:002019-06-26T13:29:36.552+03:00My heart was broken i never believe i will get bac...My heart was broken i never believe i will get back my ex again until Dr LOVE brought back my ex within 24 hours with a powerful love spell. He is reliable for positive result contact the spell caster for love spell on email: {DRODOGBO34@GMAIL.COM } or whatsapp on + 1 443 281 3404Reymond Morenonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-42343018210429153182019-01-16T14:00:12.372+02:002019-01-16T14:00:12.372+02:00Hello,
I am from the United States, I want to sha...Hello,<br /> I am from the United States, I want to share this great testimony of <br />how Dr. Trust helped me to restore her former lover. During my search <br />for a solution I came into contact with Dr. Trust and through his help<br /> my lover came back within 48 hours. So with this I am so brave to <br />advise anyone looking for a way to get a lover back to contact Dr. <br />Trust on WhatsApp: {+ 1 443 281 3404 } or via email at <br />{placeofsolution@yahoo.com } i am so happy at least i and my lover are <br />coming back to each other and going together together a new year <br />together Thank you again Dr. Trust ....bennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-32138977653257590972012-04-20T17:34:26.366+03:002012-04-20T17:34:26.366+03:00"Rav Eliashev resigned and disavowed himself ..."Rav Eliashev resigned and disavowed himself of the rabbunut, thus making his changed feelings about them clear."<br /><br />Nice try. He quit bacause he had an argument with R Goren. He influenced the election of current chief Rabbi Metzger very strongly.<br /><br />And he continues to support an APPEALS court in the Rabbanut. See his biography Hashakdan 120-121shaul shapiranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-2113652101771191482012-04-20T10:28:50.929+03:002012-04-20T10:28:50.929+03:00That's not true. While he retired in protest,...That's not true. While he retired in protest, he did not disavow the Rabbinut. Here is from his wiki: <br />בעקבות היבחרו של הרב שלמה גורן לרב הראשי לישראל ונשיא בית הדין הגדול, ובעקבות פולמוס פסק דין האח והאחות, שהיה שנוי במחלוקת הלכתית והרב אלישיב נטל בו חלק פעיל, הוא פרש מבית הדין. עם זאת, הורה לאחרים שלא לפרוש מהרבנות במקום שלא נבחר מועמד ראוי אחר.Rabbi Michael Tzadokhttp://mekubal.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-46948428527047908482012-04-20T03:41:19.359+03:002012-04-20T03:41:19.359+03:00It is difficult to know exactly how Rav Eliashiv h...It is difficult to know exactly how Rav Eliashiv holds. We have a teshuva in his name in Kovetz Teshuvot, that would seem to imply that no matter the reason, even extreme spousal abuse, the man has the right to withhold a get.<br />http://daattorah.blogspot.com/2012/04/rav-eliashivmaos-alei-get-not-required.html#comment-form<br /><br />Personally I have two problems with the Kovetz Teshuvot. <br />1) Rav Eliashiv didn't write it. It is a redaction of his opinions from when he sat the Beit Din HaGadol and recorded in the sefer Piskei Din. His opinion was not always the majority opinion(meaning it wasn't always the accepted halakha) and the Teshuvot brought are extremely truncated from what he himself wrote there(in Piskei Din).<br /><br />2) Rav Eliashiv himself has been known to rule contrary to what is written in Kovetz Teshuvot. A couple of cases of that were brought on this blog back during the EJF controversy.Rabbi Michael Tzadokhttp://mekubal.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-66003021008767257412012-04-20T01:48:48.175+03:002012-04-20T01:48:48.175+03:00Rav Eliashev resigned and disavowed himself of the...Rav Eliashev resigned and disavowed himself of the rabbunut, thus making his changed feelings about them clear.samnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-35880816457727454742012-04-20T00:16:28.462+03:002012-04-20T00:16:28.462+03:00"Does Posek Hador Maran HaRav Yosef Sholom El..."Does Posek Hador Maran HaRav Yosef Sholom Eliashev shlit"a hold like this?"<br /><br />Who made him posek hador? Chief Rabbi Yizchak Herzog when he appointed him to the Rabbanut?<br /><br />Two can play the same game.shaul shapiranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-23632434384618428602012-04-20T00:15:02.170+03:002012-04-20T00:15:02.170+03:00Binyamin I have a better one:
"Abba why'...Binyamin I have a better one:<br /><br />"Abba why'd you get divorced"<br />"Your mother burnt the cholent."<br />"That's a reason?!"<br />"Well Beis Shammai didn't think so but Beis Hillel did so I jumped on the Kula train."<br /><br /><br />(Backround chatter: "you should call it Beis RAV Hillel" "Does Rabeinu Shamai hold this way? Rumor has it that he's smarter than Hillel.)shaul shapiranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-24766407939175663062012-04-19T22:55:59.860+03:002012-04-19T22:55:59.860+03:00Does Posek Hador Maran HaRav Yosef Sholom Eliashev...Does Posek Hador Maran HaRav Yosef Sholom Eliashev shlit"a hold like this?Dovidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-69883988573274868742012-04-19T22:52:20.035+03:002012-04-19T22:52:20.035+03:00He is the spiritual leader of Sephardic Jewry, whi...He is the spiritual leader of Sephardic Jewry, which only represents a minority of Jewry (both religious and overall.) Sephardic Jewry is roughly 20% of Jewry, with Ashkenazic being the bulk of the rest. <br /><br />But, yes, he most certainly must be called Rav (or Rabbi).Rachman Ben-Tzadiknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-67407671670894554722012-04-19T22:23:46.302+03:002012-04-19T22:23:46.302+03:00Binyamin:
It is Rav Ovadia Yosef. He is the spir...Binyamin:<br /><br />It is <b>Rav</b> Ovadia Yosef. He is the spiritual leader for roughly 2/3 of the world's (religious) Jewry, and the Posek HaDor, he deserves at least a little respect, even if you don't agree with him.Rabbi Michael Tzadokhttp://mekubal.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-67501529588097279942012-04-19T21:45:57.153+03:002012-04-19T21:45:57.153+03:00Binyamin, no one is saying he has to give the get ...Binyamin, no one is saying he has to give the get immediately. Look at the post. Rav Palaggi says 1 or 2 years, and Chaim v'Shalom says 18 months.yeshayanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-74534743438667717572012-04-19T19:15:16.725+03:002012-04-19T19:15:16.725+03:00"Abba, why did you get divorced?"
"..."Abba, why did you get divorced?"<br />"Ovadia Yosef said that if a woman wants a divorce she must get it immediately, or she will not be religious."<br />"But Abba, Ima was never religious anyway."<br /><br />"Abba, why did you get divorced?"<br />"Ima wanted it. She got to have you with her, and I had to pay support, so it was easy for her. There was not any real reason."<br />"Why did you agree?"<br />"I did not have a choice - Ovadia Yosef said women will not stay religious if we do not give them what they want."<br /><br />"Abba, why did you stop being religious?"<br />"After I lost everything in a mindless religious divorce, I decided I want my final judgment to be with the devil, rather than with the G-d of the rabbis there."Binyaminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07258379827161517927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-38623727376960335312012-04-19T00:22:12.517+03:002012-04-19T00:22:12.517+03:00Definitly am interested in a translation or synops...Definitly am interested in a translation or synopsis.<br /><br />ThanksReuvennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-64726399225748140242012-04-18T20:59:52.121+03:002012-04-18T20:59:52.121+03:00I'll try translating it soon - it is an import...I'll try translating it soon - it is an important teshuvaDaas Torahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-56276811786212648082012-04-18T20:46:49.953+03:002012-04-18T20:46:49.953+03:00Reuven- I'm not volunteering to translate all ...Reuven- I'm not volunteering to translate all that. But if you're interested in a relatively thorough synopsis, I can try to provide. I'll B"N start if you indicate interest.shaul shapiranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-46921856094082931692012-04-18T20:29:43.716+03:002012-04-18T20:29:43.716+03:00glad you found it satisfactoryglad you found it satisfactoryDaas Torahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-37244892754677608032012-04-18T20:16:21.662+03:002012-04-18T20:16:21.662+03:00Thank you, Rabbi E., for taking the time to explai...Thank you, Rabbi E., for taking the time to explain things to me.Sammynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-23597754041707084732012-04-18T17:45:24.376+03:002012-04-18T17:45:24.376+03:00It is a gemora Yoma ( 23a)R. Johanan further said...It is a gemora Yoma ( 23a)R. Johanan further said in the name of R. Simeon b. Jehozadak: Any scholar,who does not avenge himself and retain anger like a serpent, is no [real] scholar.1 But is it not written: Thou shalt not take vengeance nor bear any grudge?2 — That refers to monetary affairs, for it has been taught: What is revenge and what is bearing a grudge? If one said to his fellow: ‘Lend me your sickle’, and he replied ‘No’, and to-morrow the second comes [to the first] and says: ‘Lend me your axe’! and he replies: ‘I will not lend it to you, just as you would not lend me your sickle’ — that is revenge. And what is bearing a grudge? If one says to his fellow: ‘Lend me your axe , he replies ‘No’, and on the morrow the second asks: ‘Lend me your garment’, and he answers: ‘Here it is. I am not like you who would not lend me [what I asked for]’ — that is bearing a grudge. But [does] not [this prohibition apply to] personal affliction? Has it not been taught: Concerning those who are insulted but do not insult others [in revenge], who hear themselves reproached without replying, who [perform good] work out of love of the Lord and rejoice in their sufferings,3 Scripture says: But they that love Him be as the sun when he goeth forth in his might?4 — [That means,] indeed, that he keeps it in his heart [though without taking action]. Rut Raba said: He who passes over his retaliations has all his transgressions passed over?5 — [That speaks of the case] that an endeavour was made to obtain his reconciliation, and his consent is obtained.<br />=============<br /><br /><br />Minchas Chinuch593(241:1): Do not take revenge - Look at the Rambam (Hilchos De’os 7:7). However in Yoma (23a) it explains that this prohibition only applies in monetary matters but not matters involving bodily pain there is no prohibition of not taking revenge or not being spiteful. In the case of bodily pain it is only an act of piety not to hold a grudge. But the Rambam and also the Chinuch omit mentioning of this distinction and in fact it appears that they hold that one transgresses the prohibitions in all cases and this is a contraction to the gemora. Also look at the Rambam (Hilchos Talmid Torah 7:13) where he states that a talmid chachom that has been publicly embarrassed should take revenge and hold a grudge. See also the Kesef Mishna and the Lechem Mishna. Nevertheless no one commits a sin for taking revenge for personal suffering. I found in the Semag (11-12) who states that for personal suffering one does not transgress the prohibition of revenge and that this is learned from Yoma (23a). Therefore the question remains why the Rambam and the Chinuch apparently rule contrary to the gemora.Daas Torahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-39444836312954840782012-04-18T17:16:06.955+03:002012-04-18T17:16:06.955+03:00Translation please?Translation please?Reuvennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-43193340813130310122012-04-18T16:34:36.962+03:002012-04-18T16:34:36.962+03:00I think I once read in RYoG that it was a mitzvah ...I think I once read in RYoG that it was a mitzvah for a Talmid Chochom to actually hold a grudge and take revenge if his honor was slighted. Can anyone explain this?Sammynoreply@blogger.com