tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post8283609788497737161..comments2024-03-29T18:58:23.695+03:00Comments on Daas Torah - Issues of Jewish Identity: Kolko Lakewood case: The role of the Lakewood roshei yeshiva in driving out Rabbi S.Daas Torahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-79913916152327977562014-05-04T15:52:23.120+03:002014-05-04T15:52:23.120+03:00For the same reason that it is official policy of ...For the same reason that it is official policy of the media not to mention by name victims of abuse. Victims and their family typically like to retain some sense of privacy.Daas Torahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07252904288544083215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-44643125755992999842014-05-04T14:22:59.902+03:002014-05-04T14:22:59.902+03:00Why is Kolko mentioned by name and Rabbi S. is onl...Why is Kolko mentioned by name and Rabbi S. is only an anonymous Rabbi S.? Does he not have a last name or is it to be mekayaim yemach shemo?Chaimhttp://www.theyeshivaworld.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-62594189046237092462014-04-27T23:25:51.256+03:002014-04-27T23:25:51.256+03:00Do you know anything about the G. D. case? Yes, tr...Do you know anything about the G. D. case? Yes, true, other than that they might possibly really be nice people. The only problem you might have is, afilu nefesh achas beshivim shono is a beis din katlonis, mishpocho shleimo, al achas kamo vekamo.eino yodea she'eino yodea will not do and not good enoughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-72464341204426704172014-04-27T07:45:49.651+03:002014-04-27T07:45:49.651+03:00I don't know much about the case, but I do kno...I don't know much about the case, but I do know the Lakewood Roshei Yeshiva personally and they are really nice people and concerned about others, so I find it hard to accept that would intentionally harm someone.Humble Jewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-31771163011453268922014-04-24T03:18:39.642+03:002014-04-24T03:18:39.642+03:00I would think that a huge yeshiva like BMG, with i...I would think that a huge yeshiva like BMG, with its many hundreds of bochurim and yungerleit KA"H would require a team of Roshei Yeshiva to keep track of them all, serve as mechanchim and guides to them, say shiurim, and impart their great Torah wisdom to the younger generations. If that were the case, which I believe it should be, then there should be zero time available to get involved in individual affairs like this, controlling the community like gestapos, and taking sides in conflicts that arise between individuals. To the best of the public knowledge, NONE of the Roshei Yeshiva of BMG have smicha or proper experience to pasken the types of shailos involved in these matters. When they function outside their domain, they besmirch their own dignity and honor as Rosh Yeshiva. So, for all I care, they can believe Kolko and innocence and all that, but their getting involved in the many hundreds of hours of politicking, meetings, etc. that resulted in punishing the victim was a colossal error. If I was the administrator of a yeshiva whose Rosh Yeshiva spent more time doing this stuff (whether right or wrong), I'd fire him or quit, whichever is easier. If I was a talmid there, I'd be outraged that my RY cares more about an issue that does not involve him than the time he should be spending in my chinuch in learning.Never went to BMGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-54217732205183446912014-04-20T08:27:55.771+03:002014-04-20T08:27:55.771+03:00Thank you Nat for pointing out the self-centered i...Thank you Nat for pointing out the self-centered irrelevance of Eddie's comments.Stay on Topicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-37835010280530084752014-04-20T08:25:30.801+03:002014-04-20T08:25:30.801+03:00ITS SEEMS FROM THIS SORDID BELSKY-KOLKO AFFAIR TH...ITS SEEMS FROM THIS SORDID BELSKY-KOLKO AFFAIR THAT THE OU DID NOT REALLY BECOME ANY MORE UPRIGHT IN ITS PROTECTTON OF SEX ABUSERS AND ITS ORGANIZATIONAL APATHY TO VICTIMS -- EVEN AFTER BEING EXPOSED FOR ITS DECADES LONG COVERUP OF LANNERS ABUSE OF NCSY KIDS!THE OU LANNER BELSKY KOLKO CABALnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-439996795363043292014-04-20T08:15:40.031+03:002014-04-20T08:15:40.031+03:00And what about the OU's culpability in allowin...And what about the OU's culpability in allowing their chief Posek Belsky to get away with the vile harassment of the father of the victim, even accusing the victims father of being the molester with no evidence whatsoever and in spite of admissionss to mutliple rabbis and to the court from Kolko? Why did not a single member of the OU Board of Directors publocly protest Belskys outrageously vile behavior if the professional staff at the OU are too concerned e with all the money Beslky brings in with the "heimishe" crowd" to care about his evil deeds?OU Organizational Complicity in The Vile Schemenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-19683282795605266612014-04-20T00:35:38.942+03:002014-04-20T00:35:38.942+03:00it's
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there is no apostrophe i...it's<br /><br />should be<br /><br />its<br /><br />there is no apostrophe in the possessive form of "it"Chaimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05331877663627621320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-49660484049024398892014-04-19T01:05:03.526+03:002014-04-19T01:05:03.526+03:00Please try to understand for once that not all of ...Please try to understand for once that not all of these blogs are about you. Someone wrote a blog about the deplorable situation in Lakewood, and you have to piggyback again and post your interesting opinion about one thing or another. I am sure that if you have something good to say, then RDE will be happy to give you attention in a separate guest post. By doing what you did, however, you steal the thunder from this blog, and take the attention away from something which truly deserves the attention of klal Yisroel. It is really not nice. I am just not sure if your actions were intentionally malicious or just plain thoughtless. natnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-73908341116957774862014-04-19T00:17:19.974+03:002014-04-19T00:17:19.974+03:00The letter doesn't mention which RY in BMG hou...The letter doesn't mention which RY in BMG hounded him. Is the accompanying pic intended to insinuate it was R Malkiel?me123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-72029245908223664132014-04-18T23:44:53.679+03:002014-04-18T23:44:53.679+03:00Of course something stinks. Rabbi S should never h...Of course something stinks. Rabbi S should never have been forced out. He should be welcomed back with full apologies. But this is what passes for corrective action in the world of daas torah, where teshuvah is only for the little people.Yerachmiel Lopinhttp://frumfollies.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-83917675149476192792014-04-18T20:55:47.433+03:002014-04-18T20:55:47.433+03:00The public needs to distinguish between the Lakewo...The public needs to distinguish between the Lakewood Yeshiva, home and host to thousands of serious and sincere Bnei Torah, and it's corrupt leadership.<br /><br />Whether it was the redifah of Rabbi S or the reprehensible and deplorable Weiss-Dodelson case, it was Kotler, Inc. that was responsible, not the Bnei Yeshivah.<br /><br />The people who can make a difference are the Gedolim in Eretz Yisroel and the gevirim in America. I hope they speak up quickly, so that the Chillul Hashem personified by this mafia can be eliminated. BMG is greatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-24164858437601228062014-04-18T19:29:32.420+03:002014-04-18T19:29:32.420+03:00And what about Rabbi Belsky- who stuck his face in...And what about Rabbi Belsky- who stuck his face into the controversy and defended Kolko to the nth degree- and made RS into a moser and a rasha. And he did not display an iota of regret or contrition after Kolko was found guilty- I mean, confessed to the accusations. So did Belsky lie, or were the spineless Lakewood loyalists unable to think for themselves and use their brains to ask intelligent questions about the case, rather than being led astray by Belsky and other so-called leaders? The answer is: all of the above. The behavioural pattern is identical: the accused are treated like Tzaddikim and supported by the entire kehilla (recall Weberman's $500,000 fund raiser for legal fees, and his fight for "justice" as reported by Ami magazine) and after the defense crumbles when the accused is found to be guilty, there is not a single public act of contrition by any of the parties and players who were proven to be flat out WRONG at best, and proven to be liars, at worst. The old saying rings true, over and over and over again: the fish rots from the head downFrednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-23338398430629801812014-04-18T19:20:06.379+03:002014-04-18T19:20:06.379+03:00Please specify which of the four rosh yeshivahs wa...Please specify which of the four rosh yeshivahs was behind this or does the pcture give it away?stannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-51962847988952794372014-04-18T18:51:29.239+03:002014-04-18T18:51:29.239+03:00This saga was not beshogeg, it was driven as a pol...This saga was not beshogeg, it was driven as a policy with MALICE of stom piyos disenfranchising the victim and family of everything earned that took putting together a lifetime. Some tend to think they have a monopoly over the Tora and twist it to their own needs as necessary, and own the individual as if they are expendable. Bizman shehabeis hamikdosh hoyo kayom it would have been, "Vehevi es korbono...vesomach yodo al rosh hasoir, and only then venislach lo. That is, the Nossi biochvodo uvatsmo will stand in que with a big fat Korbon Chatos, and the whole klall yisrael will observe the scene how he fesses up to his CHET he has committed, kal vachomer when he is mischaret al zedonosov. As of yet, we were not zoche to have an ashrei hador for an asher yechto nassi. May hashem be merachem that mashiv horuach umorid ruach tshuva al hashgogos veal hazedonos bimherah beyamenu bekarov. Kel bneh, kel bneh bnei bescho bekarov!<br /><br />Same applies to all other nessiim that have looked the other way for the epstein's, wolmark's, weberman's, being mechalel shem shomayim berabim, matir assurim of eishes ish, licensing mamzerim factories, unsinas yad laasos nevolo bivnos yisrael letame es Dinah while acting as an Ostrich. Klal yisrael wishes them all a rude awakening smelling the coffee and fess up in public, for all the rest of yiden a freilichen yom tov. <br />Vayikro 4:22 Asher Nossi yechto veosso... asher lo seoseno... See Rashi, loshon "ashrei" hador shehaNassi shelo nosen lev lehevi kaporo al shigegoso, kal vachomer SHEMISCHARET AL ZEDONOSOV !noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-70988190198858840712014-04-18T17:56:04.259+03:002014-04-18T17:56:04.259+03:00Why was kolko more believable when RS had writen h...Why was kolko more believable when RS had writen heterim from valid rabonim in doing so, and still and all he went to fight against these rabonim themselves to retrieve it. What is so credible about this yoshev beseser more, than one of the most choshuve Talmidei Chachmim and marbitz torah in fakewood. Something stinks in fakewood and smells all over the place.<br /><br />PS<br />5. The ONLY reason he got his job back was because of a written psak from EY!!!! pliz xplainmsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-41316569979875996542014-04-18T16:32:54.486+03:002014-04-18T16:32:54.486+03:00This post is at once commendable and deplorable. O...This post is at once commendable and deplorable. Of course it is true that key figures in BMG orchestrated the harm to Rabbi S through proxies. But what of the elementary failure to think by the public. Why didn't people go directly to Rabbi S and ask him? Yerachmiel Lopinhttp://frumfollies.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7309929059139673041.post-28964690506545951962014-04-18T15:32:30.845+03:002014-04-18T15:32:30.845+03:00This letter ends with a brocho that the Moshiach w...This letter ends with a brocho that the Moshiach will come very soon - and I have been thinking about this particular Ikkar (as i go through ikkarim to understand them better).<br /><br />So firstly, although we wait for Moshiach, as far as i know, there is not requirement to beleive he is coming imminently. <br />Second, most people look to Moshiach to solve all worldly problems, be they financial, political, health, or even psychological. But will Moshiach heal the sick, or is that an Xtian idea? HaRambam , who has written the most important halachic work on Moshiach says that teva, nature will not change. (Perhaps Teva, the Pharma company in Jerusalem may advance some new cures).<br />Third, there is an idea of Moshaich coming from the sky or on a white donkey. But look at how long it took to get to David hamelech. There were neviim, and mircles, for many generations, and even David had his trials. So how will today's chaotic world suddenly transform , in an instant? Even Moses was unable, or better, not afforded the agency from Hashem, to transform the world in an instant.<br />The last credible candidate for Moshaich was probably Hezekiah hamelech. Yet, when he tried to get the tribes to come to the temple, many of them mocked him. <br />Finally, would we really want Moshiach to come? he would most likely make demands on us that we are not expecting, and these could even be halachic changes. <br />She yibaneh Beis HAMikdash, bimheirah b'yameinu!<br />Ben MIkrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07122937371918515052noreply@blogger.com